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[bg7brd]

Don't confuse huddlereports rankings with how they feel about a player. It is not based on their study of the players. It is based on what they here from around the league on where a player will be draft. Their rankings are a pure "where we think a kid will be drafted" list. There is their rankings separate from their talent board. I just read the talent board write up on him and it is 3 paragraphs of nothing but excuses for the kid. His accuracy is bad but......., His mechanics are bad but..........., He is impatient but.........., and so on. The Talent board guy I like a lot because he is different in his views but he does tend to out think himself sometimes.

I agree - Good post. He definitely has an opinion and isn't shy about it. Incidentally, he also gave first round grades to Nate Potter and Broderick Binns UDFA.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Somewhere, Richard Bartell is quietly weeping.

 

[Duckjake]

Well, I guess constant whining about a sixth round pick is a huge improvement over constant whining about taking Brown over AP in the first or bypassing Suggs for Skillet Hands and Pace!

I guess all this constant fawning over the Bobby Massie selection is better than all the fawning over the Buster Davis selection.

 

[TJ]

A QB who couldn't even complete 54% of his passes in the Mountain West Conference? He couldn't even complete half his passes against Army,UNLV or Wyoming! TCU completely shut him down. How is he going to complete passes in the NFL? It's not like he played at Fordham. Marshall Faulk played at San Diego State. We just used one of our 6th round picks on Derek
Anderson I guess they'll pay Lindley a $million to sit on the bench as well.

FTFY. Lindley has a big arm and....a big arm. Just like Anderson, he struggles throwing fades and putting any touch on the ball.

Whenever I hear a QB's strength is his arm and his weakness is his accuracy, I start seeing images of Jeff George, Derek Anderson, and others. Accuracy is tough to teach in the NFL and if a QB can only complete 55% of his passes in the MWC, it is highly unlikely he will improve upon those numbers in the pros.

However, like you said, it is only a sixth-round pick. Just expected something greater since we had such a stellar draft.

Did not know that.

Anyway, in regard to Lindley at least we didn't pass on Bobby Massie for Kirk Cousins. Redskins fans are busy calling sheetrock contractors today to repair all the holes in the walls of their houses.

No kidding. Leave it to the Foreskins to piss in their fan's cheerios two days after picking potentially their first franchise QB in over 20 years. With holes on their offensive line, they could have very well taken Massie before us and gotten a steal.

Honestly, how does this improve the Redskins, a cellar dweller team in their division, who needs impact players to play Week 1? I would be pissed if I cheered for Washington. I'd be pissed if I were Kirk Counsins, as well.

 

[Duckjake]

FTFY. Lindley has a big arm and....a big arm. Just like Anderson, he struggles throwing fades and putting any touch on the ball.

Whenever I hear a QB's strength is his arm and his weakness is his accuracy, I start seeing images of Jeff George, Derek Anderson, and others. Accuracy is tough to teach in the NFL and if a QB can only complete 55% of his passes in the MWC, it is highly unlikely he will improve upon those numbers in the pros.

However, like you said, it is only a sixth-round pick. Just expected something greater since we had such a stellar draft.



No kidding. Leave it to the Foreskins to piss in their fan's cheerios two days after picking potentially their first franchise QB in over 20 years. With holes on their offensive line, they could have very well taken Massie before us and gotten a steal.

Honestly, how does this improve the Redskins, a cellar dweller team in their division, who needs impact players to play Week 1? I would be pissed if I cheered for Washington. I'd be pissed if I were Kirk Counsins, as well.

You should have heard this Redskins fan on the radio this morning. I thought he was going to smash his phone while he was on the air.

 

[TJ]

You should have heard this Redskins fan on the radio this morning. I thought he was going to smash his phone while he was on the air.

Was it Chad Dukes?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I just don't see it. He's the same guy as John Skelton and there were better guys to take a flyer on at that spot. If we'd taken Skelator 5-6 years ago it might make sense but we just got Double Duece in 2010! This is such a goofy pick I'd have rather had a punter.

Yep. or Kellen Moore.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Cardinals QB Ryan Lindley is working on becoming more accurate

Ryan Lindley started 49 consecutive games at quarterback for San Diego State. He's 6-feet-3-inches and 232 pounds, and he can make a football spin as fast as a centrifuge.

So why did he last until the sixth round of the NFL draft last weekend, where he was taken by the Cardinals?

Accuracy. Or the lack of it. Lindley's highest completion percentage in four years was 57.72, and last year it dipped to 53.02.

"I've been blessed with a pretty good arm," he said. "At the same time, I think something that has hurt me in the past is accuracy, and a lot of that for me is my footwork, which I have been working on a ton."

The footwork of quarterbacks has been a continuing theme for the Cardinals in recent years. Matt Leinart struggled with it, as did Derek Anderson. It will be a point of emphasis this off-season for John Skelton and Kevin Kolb.

After the season, Lindley worked with quarterbacks coach Steve Calhoun and former NFL assistant Ted Tollner to try to correct the problem.
"They both helped me out a ton and really just gave me a lot of information," Lindley said.

The Cardinals are counting on new quarterbacks coach John McNulty to help, too. He previously was the team's receivers coach.

"You've got a big guy that's almost 6-4, that's athletic, that's got a good arm and can move in the pocket," coach Ken Whisenhunt said of Lindley. "He's had success in an offense that's been productive at the college level. That's what you like as well."

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/car...b-ryan-lindley-nfl-draft-san-diego-state.html
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[D-Dogg]

I'd rather have an average accurate arm than an inaccurate big arm. Every single day.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

I'm getting really tired of this "footwork" thing with QBs who can't hit the broad side of a barn. It's crap.

 

[Goldfield]

Derek Anderson v2.0

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Not even close.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Peter Kings take on Lindley in TMQB this morning...

http://cnnsi.com/2012/writers/peter_king/05/01/draft/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a2

Keep in mind that history says more than half the players picked in any draft will wash out. Just three of the 11 passers picked three years ago -- Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman -- have had any impact whatsoever.

This year, I think one of the low-round guys has a chance to makes waves, and maybe early. The order of the rookie impact players:

1. Robert Griffin III, Washington (first round, second pick overall). He goes to a more NFL-ready team than Andrew Luck, with a better line and backfield than the Colts, and a better defense to keep him in more games.

2. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis (first round, first pick overall). Remember: Peyton Manning went 3-13 as a rookie. The Colts shouldn't look for wins this year out of Luck, but rather progress. They'll see lots of it.

3. Brandon Weeden, Cleveland (first round, 22nd overall). The Browns were hot on Weeden through the pre-draft process, and I'm convinced if they got wind of someone trading ahead of them to pick the 28-year-old passer, they would have trumped the bid. Colt McCoy will take the first snap of training camp, but he's going to have be near perfect to hold off Weeden from starting by Oct. 1.

4. Ryan Lindley, Arizona (sixth round, 186th overall). Whoa, you say. Pump the brakes, pal. Nope. Lindley started 49 games in a pro-style offense in college, and the Cardinals aren't sold that Kevin Kolb is the long-term answer. Something tells me Lindley will have his shot to play by midseason.

5. Ryan Tannehill, Miami (first round, eighth overall). This is a good thing, people. Joe Philbin isn't going to push his first-round trophy into savior duty early. He made it clear to me that the best player will play from among Tannehill, Matt Moore and David Garrard.
I met a fan Saturday at FinFest, the Dolphin annual fan event at Sun Life Stadium, who told me he hopes Miami sits him two years and develops him the way the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers. Amazing. A sane fan. The Dolphins won't wait that long, but I could see Tannehill sitting the first year ... unless he has such a big edge in the playbook -- he told me 75 percent of it is the same as his college playbook -- that he makes mental jumps over the incumbents.

6. Russell Wilson, Seattle (third round, 75th overall). How about GM John Schneider telling me Wilson was one of the three best players he scouted in 2011? That, plus the fact that neither Matt Flynn nor Tarvaris Jackson have a stranglehold on the starting job, tells me Wilson will have a fair chance to win the job at some point this season.

7. Nick Foles, Philadelphia (third round, 88th overall). Mike Vick gets hurt a lot. Mike Kafka was just OK when he had his chance last year. Trent Edwards is just off the street. If Foles has a great training camp (I have no idea if he will or not), he'll be on Andy Reid's mind when the inevitable happens.

8. Brock Osweiler, Denver (second round, 57th overall). Hey, it's no lock Peyton Manning's going to make it through the season whole. And if the Broncos didn't think Osweiler was better than Caleb Hanie, they wouldn't have picked him in the second round.

9. Kirk Cousins, Washington (fourth round, 102nd overall). He has to beat out a veteran who offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan trusts, Rex Grossman, and Griffin will have to get hurt or be awful for Cousins to play. I don't get the pick.

10. Chandler Harnish, Indianapolis (seventh round, 253rd overall). Luck insurance. Likely a practice-squadder behind Luck and Drew Stanton.

11. B.J. Coleman, Green Bay (seventh round, 242nd overall). See Harnish. Hard to see how he'll beat out Graham Harrell for No. 2.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Maybe we should look closer then using the broad sweep of the brush that he is Scud Version 2. Check this article out. Good stuff.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jordan_conn/09/22/sdsu-ryan-lindley/index.html

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No way Lindley pays this year unless both Kolb/Skelton are injured or we are 2-10.

(minus preseason of course)

 

[john h]

Has everything one would want physically in a QB, but suffers with accuracy issues. Interesting fact on Linsley. He only played one season where he didn't take the majority of the snaps out of the shotgun, he completed a career worst 53 percent of his passes when he had to drop back and read the defense. This is more of a thought process problem than a inaccurate arm...this is a good thing, more of a matter of lack of experience dropping back and he can be taught one would think to reduce this percentage.

You really never know when you will find a GEM in a QB. Remember Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner. Warner never even drafted and becomes a future Hall of Famer and Leinart at #12 a failure. I am glad we drafted a QB. Hall has no future so lets see if this guy is more than everyone thinks. That QB from BYU who is only 6' tall but had a record of something like 53-2 sure seems like one who you would take a flyer on. All he did was win. Joe Montana was not that tall. Someone must have signed this guy as you cannot win that many games in that conference without some skill sets.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

Kolb gets his chance this year....the Danny Downer in me sez he blows it.....but Skeleton doesn't and Lindley becomes the backup.

And Lindley is not Derek Anderson......nobody sucks that bad.

 

[john h]

I just don't see it. He's the same guy as John Skelton and there were better guys to take a flyer on at that spot. If we'd taken Skelator 5-6 years ago it might make sense but we just got Double Duece in 2010! This is such a goofy pick I'd have rather had a punter.

It is much to early to cross off Skelton. We won, I think, 7 of our last 8 games with Skelton and he hardly knew our system. He has the tools in size, arm, and willing to stand in the pocket. He needs to learn to read defenses which can only come with experience. If he can do that and improve his accuracy he possible could be a QBOTF. This year is going to tell us a lot about Skelton and Kolb. Both could be winners or losers. My money is on Skelton because I think Kolbs head injuries will be to much for him to overcome. If he does not make it the trade for him will go down as one of the worst trades in our history. The fact is our success or failure this year will ride on the shoulders of one of our two QB's.
We could go 10-6 or 4-12 depending on how they do.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

It is much to early to cross off Skelton. We won, I think, 7 of our last 8 games with Skelton and he hardly knew our system. He has the tools in size, arm, and willing to stand in the pocket. He needs to learn to read defenses which can only come with experience. If he can do that and improve his accuracy he possible could be a QBOTF. This year is going to tell us a lot about Skelton and Kolb. Both could be winners or losers. My money is on Skelton because I think Kolbs head injuries will be to much for him to overcome. If he does not make it the trade for him will go down as one of the worst trades in our history. The fact is our success or failure this year will ride on the shoulders of one of our two QB's.
We could go 10-6 or 4-12 depending on how they do.

+1.

 

[JeffGollin]

And Lindley is not Derek Anderson......nobody sucks that bad.

mmmmmm......really?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

. If he does not make it the trade for him will go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history..

FTFY.

 

[Gaddabout]

Lindley's footwork is awful. His drops are high school bad. That's not something you expect to see in a guy that spend a lot of time under center in college. That's not something you can fix in a season. I like him better than Ryan Mallet, I think, but I didn't like Mallet much. They look a lot alike, IMO.

 

[JeffGollin]

Lindley's footwork is awful. His drops are high school bad. That's not something you expect to see in a guy that spend a lot of time under center in college. That's not something you can fix in a season. I like him better than Ryan Mallet, I think, but I didn't like Mallet much. They look a lot alike, IMO.

Listen. He's a Cardinal and I'm pulliing for him, but I must admit that around Senior Bowl and Combine time, he screwed up enough to end up on my (very short) "Do not draft at any cost" list.

Well, he's ours now. We can only hope that perserverence and good coaching will turn things around for him and give his God-given talent a chance to blossom.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Lindley's footwork is awful. His drops are high school bad. That's not something you expect to see in a guy that spend a lot of time under center in college. That's not something you can fix in a season. I like him better than Ryan Mallet, I think, but I didn't like Mallet much. They look a lot alike, IMO.

I believe he did not spend time under center till his senior year, for the most part of his college days he was in the shotgun formation. Take into account also that his WRs this last season where not very good.

 

[chickenhead]

I'm happy to hear Peter King's vote of confidence, but getting playing time by midseason sounds horrible in general. Unless they're just giving him snaps in the 4th quarter of a blowout.

 

[Longcolts]

From reading the article, whether or not he ever makes it as an NFL QB Starter, he sounds like a really good kid with a lot of try in him. Even if he doesn't make it I can only hope that a kid with that much tenacity, and heart does well in whatever he ends up doing. I firmly hope that he can make it as an NFL QB. Hard to not root for a good character kid.