Welcome to AZ Ryan Lindley, QB SDS

[Chris_Sanders]

Not really a fan of this choice but more because I doubt he can beat out Bartel.

Practice squad QB.

 

[Mitch]

Not really a fan of this choice but more because I doubt he can beat out Bartel.

Practice squad QB.

Wait until you see his arm, Chris. He can bring it.

 

[TJ]

Wait until you see his arm, Chris. He can bring it.

He has a big arm, but accuracy is a huge concern. With the exception of Boise St., the competition he played against was substandard. Granted, he did play ok last year against BSU, he had some really poor games against much weaker teams. his overall body of work leaves much to be desired.

IMO, he's a practice squad guy.


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[Dr. Jones]

Derek Anderson v2.0

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[Chopper0080]

Like this pick as well. Bartel is a replaceable 3 and if Kolb can't beat out Skelton, he will be cut. Here we have a developmental QB with solid physical skills ala John Skelton. Like it.

 

[Monty]

Last year when I was watching the tapes on DeMarco Sampson I really liked what I saw in Ryan Lindley---super competitive---big arm---tough, hangs in the pocket and drives the ball. Plus, he fed 2 1,000 yard WRs in Vincent Brown (69/1,352/19.6/10TDs) and DeMarco Sampson (67/1,220/18.2/8).

I thought at the time that Steve Keim and company would be very high on this kid.

Good call.

Darren Urban ‏ @Cardschatter Whisenhunt said one of the reasons they were intrigued by QB Ryan Lindley was seeing him on tape last year scouting WR DeMarco Sampson.

 

[seesred]

I feel with a , that Skelton who I really like and Kolbe should have a better performance this year. Especially with an upgraded line and a full year of mini camps and training camp plus games. you add Fits with Floyd, and Then we have better QB's/

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[Jetstream Green]

Bartel is what he is and has reached his potential which is never will be a starter. At least Lindly has a shot and the potential to improve no matter how small in comparison to Bartel, his physical skills alone makes him a better option for the position and the future...but ideally one would want Lindly on the practice squad and keep Bartel as the third for his knowledge of the system and the help he can not only still give Skelton but Lindly as well. Bartel has the makings of a great coach in the future IMO

 

[JeffGollin]

Good call.

Worth a shot in the 6th.

On post season tape, he seemed to screw up the mental aspects of the game too often.

He's ours now; we have to hope he can develop more executionsl consistency with pro coaching. (One positive - he's not in denial about the need to improve his footwork.

At best this season, he wins #3. At the very least he should spend time on the PS.

 

[jw7]

Like this pick as well. Bartel is a replaceable 3 and if Kolb can't beat out Skelton, he will be cut. Here we have a developmental QB with solid physical skills ala John Skelton. Like it.

Kolb won't be cut. He just got paid 7M after we couldn't lure Peyton. He is on the roster.

Skelton can beat him out in training camp, maybe, for the start.

Rookie has to beat out Bartel. Bartel knows the offense so I would give him the edge since he has been in the system. But it is a competition for #3.

 

[joeshmo]

My least favorite of the picks by far. If a QB cant even get to 60% completion percentage in college I just don't think he has any hope in the NFL. It is just such an easy mark to reach in college. Historically QB's who cannot do it, do not make it in the NFL for to long. Parcells list of things he looks for in a college QB has 60% completion percentage or better near the top, and in his last special said he should probably adjust that to 65%. For a 4 year starter to never get any better then a 57% is very disconcerting IMO and does little for me to believe that will ever change. The only teams he could throw for 60% of better last year were Air Force and New Mexico.

Another one of Parcells college QB rules is a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio or better. He fails that as well.

Big arm does you no good if you cant actually hit the side of a barn with the ball.

 

[Krangodnzr]

My least favorite of the picks by far. If a QB cant even get to 60% completion percentage in college I just don't think he has any hope in the NFL. It is just such an easy mark to reach in college. Historically QB's who cannot do it, do not make it in the NFL for to long. Parcells list of things he looks for in a college QB has 60% completion percentage or better near the top, and in his last special said he should probably adjust that to 65%. For a 4 year starter to never get any better then a 57% is very disconcerting IMO and does little for me to believe that will ever change. The only teams he could throw for 60% of better last year were Air Force and New Mexico.

Another one of Parcells college QB rules is a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio or better. He fails that as well.

Big arm does you no good if you cant actually hit the side of a barn with the ball.

LOL but he met both of those benchmarks, he likely wouldn't have been available in the sixth round. I remember Brady in college; Brady wasn't even the best QB on his own team! But yeah, Brady did have like a 62% completion percentage, so not the best comparison...

IMO Whisenhunt and crew might be overrating their ability to coach QBs up. It's rare that you see a QB improve college completion percentage in the pros.

 

[wilycoyote24]

My least favorite of the picks by far. If a QB cant even get to 60% completion percentage in college I just don't think he has any hope in the NFL. It is just such an easy mark to reach in college. Historically QB's who cannot do it, do not make it in the NFL for to long. Parcells list of things he looks for in a college QB has 60% completion percentage or better near the top, and in his last special said he should probably adjust that to 65%. For a 4 year starter to never get any better then a 57% is very disconcerting IMO and does little for me to believe that will ever change. The only teams he could throw for 60% of better last year were Air Force and New Mexico.

Another one of Parcells college QB rules is a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio or better. He fails that as well.

Big arm does you no good if you cant actually hit the side of a barn with the ball.

While I would tend to agree, I think there are too things to remember.

1) He's a sixth round pick.

2) He apparently had constantly changing OCs and inexperienced WRs.

If #2 doesn't work for you, I'll refer you to #1.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I'm with Joe. Just seems like another inaccurate big armed QB like DA and Skeleton.

That's why I don't have high hopes for Skeleton. You can't teach accuracy.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kolb won't be cut. He just got paid 7M after we couldn't lure Peyton. He is on the roster.

Skelton can beat him out in training camp, maybe, for the start.

Rookie has to beat out Bartel. Bartel knows the offense so I would give him the edge since he has been in the system. But it is a competition for #3.

Not this year, but if Skelton wins the job this year, Kolb is suer as hell gone next year.

 

[chickenhead]

Put him in late in games throwing to Fitz and Floyd. The Seahawks swapped a second and traded a third for Whitehurst. A similar return wouldn't be so bad for a sixth-round pick. Or maybe he develops into a good backup...

 

[Duckjake]

I think CKW just likes collecting QBs who can't play. Brian St.Pierre, Anderson, Hall, Kolb, Bartel, and now Lindley.

Did I miss anybody?

 

[jw7]

Not this year, but if Skelton wins the job this year, Kolb is suer as hell gone next year.

Agree. If he screws up 2 super WRs and a good running game, stick a fork in him.

 

[bg7brd]

Like this pick as well. Bartel is a replaceable 3 and if Kolb can't beat out Skelton, he will be cut. Here we have a developmental QB with solid physical skills ala John Skelton. Like it.

I agree completely. Drew Boylhart at huddlereport.com gave him a first round grade.

 

[Duckjake]

I agree completely. Drew Boylhart at huddlereport.com gave him a first round grade.

The Huddlereport had Eric Green, Elton Brown and Daryl Blackstock in their top 75 in 2005 so take what they say with a grain of salt.

A QB who couldn't even complete 54% of his passes in the Mountain West Conference? He couldn't even complete half his passes against Army,UNLV or Wyoming! TCU completely shut him down. How is he going to complete passes in the NFL? It's not like he played at Fordham. Marshall Faulk played at San Diego State. We just used one of our 6th round picks on Brian St.Pierre. I guess they'll pay Lindley a $million to sit on the bench as well.

 

[Duckjake]

Ahhhh what the heck it was a 6th round pick and those guys never play anyway.

 

[bg7brd]

The Huddlereport had Eric Green, Elton Brown and Daryl Blackstock in their top 75 in 2005 so take what they say with a grain of salt.

A QB who couldn't even complete 54% of his passes in the Mountain West Conference? He couldn't even complete half his passes against Army,UNLV or Wyoming! TCU completely shut him down. How is he going to complete passes in the NFL? It's not like he played at Fordham. Marshall Faulk played at San Diego State. We just used one of our 6th round picks on Brian St.Pierre. I guess they'll pay Lindley a $million to sit on the bench as well.

The Huddle Report's rankings aren't the same as Drew's grades. That being said, we can't take anyones grades as gospel. Not everyone is 100% and Lindley could very well be a bust. Although, he did give Sam Acho a first round grade last year

 

[joeshmo]

The Huddlereport had Eric Green, Elton Brown and Daryl Blackstock in their top 75 in 2005 so take what they say with a grain of salt.

Don't confuse huddlereports rankings with how they feel about a player. It is not based on their study of the players. It is based on what they here from around the league on where a player will be draft. Their rankings are a pure "where we think a kid will be drafted" list. There is their rankings separate from their talent board. I just read the talent board write up on him and it is 3 paragraphs of nothing but excuses for the kid. His accuracy is bad but......., His mechanics are bad but..........., He is impatient but.........., and so on. The Talent board guy I like a lot because he is different in his views but he does tend to out think himself sometimes.

 

[Duckjake]

The Huddle Report's rankings aren't the same as Drew's grades. That being said, we can't take anyones grades as gospel. Not everyone is 100% and Lindley could very well be a bust. Although, he did give Sam Acho a first round grade last year

Did not know that.

Anyway, in regard to Lindley at least we didn't pass on Bobby Massie for Kirk Cousins. Redskins fans are busy calling sheetrock contractors today to repair all the holes in the walls of their houses.

 

[wilycoyote24]

Well, I guess constant whining about a sixth round pick is a huge improvement over constant whining about taking Brown over AP in the first or bypassing Suggs for Skillet Hands and Pace!