Wendell Bryant...LOSER!

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Redheart said:
The reality is a slotting process, not bad, but way out of proportion. It is just not right, but rookies and agents love it. Veterans and owners hate it. It drives the Fans nuts and the only enjoyable thing is when the Cowboy's high draft picks "bust".

The point...player accountability for their own performance and conduct...expecially when they have been payed HUGE to do just that.


Where si redheart. Instead of crying about getting Pace and Johnson (we are getting production out of Johnson) cry about using our pick on 1 guy and getting a Bryant.
 

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Redheart said:
The reality is a slotting process, not bad, but way out of proportion. It is just not right, but rookies and agents love it. Veterans and owners hate it. It drives the Fans nuts and the only enjoyable thing is when the Cowboy's high draft picks "bust".

"Mr. NFL Commissioner...tear this system down"! :soapbox:


I don't agree on blaming the Cardinals for wasting years of these players careers...again more of blaming the man. Wendell has had plenty of time to show up and play, it is becoming pretty clear he is a bust, head-heart-body.

Shelton was rewarded with a big, juicy contract extention last year. His response was coming into pre-season workouts fat and out of shape;sorry LJ and LJ lovers, but that is a fact too. Now he has a back problem...you can't close your eyes to his being out of shape being a major contributor...strong stomach muscles are the BEST protection for a back...not a BIG stomach...strong abominals.

The point...player accountability for their own performance and conduct...expecially when they have been payed HUGE to do just that.

Personally I blame the agents, as has been reported here repeatedly the cap isn't growing as fast as the contracts are, thats' why agents get creative with other demands to make the salaries go up.

I only blame year one of Bryant on the Cards, his rookie year where he basically missed camp while waiting for us to offer market value. After that it's on him and this ridiculous substance deal obviously didn't help him play up to value.

In the cards defense, it's guys like Wendell and problems like his that MADE them reluctant to pony up the same money other teams were for their high draft picks.

As for Shelton, again, the thing everyone forgets is the guy was coming off ankle surgery, maybe the back injury is due to weight gain, maybe it was due to ankle surgery? There were articles last year in teh Republic about how linemen get so beat up that they actually get shorter, Shelton was specifically mentioned in the article, and he detailed the type of pain they routinely deal with.

Maybe he got fat and hurt his back, or maybe because of the surgery and the beating he took during the year, he couldn't work out, gained the weight, and injured the back while trying to lose the weight? Who knows, bottom line is a guy we need isn't yet ready to contribute the way we need.

Shelton was the other guy who you can quite clearly show took less than market value to avoid missing more time as a rookie.
 
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Redheart said:
It has always seemed absurd to me that rookies who have not proved anything can get such a big bonus. In any other business, the largest salaries go to those who have proved themselves and have the credentials and experience to show it. Only professional sports seem to be upside down requiring owners to gamble huge sums on potential. That really should be fixed.

What happened to the "high character" guy that the Cardinals drafted. He was made immediately wealthy and decided to live up to his billing as a high character.

:soapbox: ALERT

I'm in agreement with Redheart on this. The NFL (and other major sports leagues for that matter) needs to take a look at rookie compensation, because it is out of whack. Being a high draft pick earns you more in signing bonus than decently preforming veterans (drafted low) earn in their career. That just ain't right!

Becoming an instant millionaire is not easy for some of these kids to handle. They sign a contract that enables them to do nothing, including the job that gave them the contract, for the rest of their lives. It's overwhelming for some of them. In no way do, I excuse individual behavior in these situations, but if I were 20 something, just received 10+ million I would be out there livin' it up! It has got to be hard not to...

In most of the world you have to do the work before getting paid... Pro sports ought to take a look at that! Stop rewarding athletes for their college career, pay them after the performance.
 
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