Chopper0080
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Because the DC has a college S setting the edge at OLB on 3rd and 1. Tell me how that is playing to your players strengths. Vance is a clown.
What happened to Isaiah Simmons?
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TaylorSwift
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Do you see Simmons amounting to anything?
And considering Keims woeful ineptness when it comes to drafting
What really do you have to lose?
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And I was one of the original posters who say this simmons - vance joseph experiement being a fiasco as it has played out.
Vance is incapable of adjusting his scheme to his players.
And Simmons is a tweener/hybrid and Kiem history has suggested those sort of players have been spectacular failures for the most part.
Vance is incapable of adjusting his scheme to his players.
And Simmons is a tweener/hybrid and Kiem history has suggested those sort of players have been spectacular failures for the most part.
juza76
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Too early too say it was the wrong pick
But its never too late to say if they want to see him progressing and make an impact he needs a new coach
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Why the F is it Keim’s fault that Simmons isn’t playing? This is 100% on Joseph & KK. KK needs to grow a set & force the issue. Trust me, many of you would be screaming bloody murder if Keim hadn’t drafted him when he fell to us. I know for a fact that you could fry an egg on SK’s head over this Simmons not playing issue.
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I definently agree
We need a DC who is creative and knows how to maximize versatility.
But this is something that Kiem should have known would be an issue
Chopper0080
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Keim should know the strengths and weaknesses of the DC he hand picked.
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Everyone loved the Simmons pick, and especially me
Obviously he has been unlucky to start his nfl career with Vance Joseph
But even if I m optimistic about his future I see some concerns about him
In the few times I watched him on the field looks slow really to recognize a play, that's why is rarely the first guy going to tackle
I mean when I watched Darryl Washington playing the first game he was so quick and u could notice him on almost every plays
Obviously he has been unlucky to start his nfl career with Vance Joseph
But even if I m optimistic about his future I see some concerns about him
In the few times I watched him on the field looks slow really to recognize a play, that's why is rarely the first guy going to tackle
I mean when I watched Darryl Washington playing the first game he was so quick and u could notice him on almost every plays
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Timm Rosenbach
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Kliff and Keim could easily override Joseph on this issue and I love your reference to frying an egg on Keim’s head over the issue because I can only imagine how angry he is over his pick not playing. The fact that they haven’t forced the issue concerns me. Especially in a blowout with a depleted defense due to injury. It is either one of two things: Vance Joseph is an idiot AND Keim/Kliff have no guts OR Simmons is a complete Fredo. Neither option gives me confidence in the situation
I still like the pick of Simmons, I just don’t like how he is being used so far
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Weak
lmao
PACardsFan
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Agree! I could understand sitting him if we were a top 5 defense, but our D could REALLY use a top 10 pick right now. Dallas will score 40+ next week on this D. I only hope we can score 45+.
HomerPimpson
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Everything you all just said tells me he's terrible in practice and isn't the impact player they thought he was. If he was good he'd see the field, I'm sure they're all dying for him to be good.
Chopper0080
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Ok. All of that context is so much more meaningful than Keim
a: knowing Vance is not a creative DC
b: having Devondre Campbell as his number 1 target in FA
c: drafting Simmons to play the exact same position as Campbell
so please, expound on how Keim didn't set this entire thing up to fail? Was Vance suddenly going to become more creative despite his years of history? Was his #1 target in FA going to crap the bed? Was a college S and hybrid player going to beat out a career LB in a traditional LB role?
The only defense for this is Vance flat out lying to Keim in which case Keim should fire him. Well, that hasn't happened so we can assume that Keim took Simmons without any freaking clue or plan in how Vance was going to use him in year 1. It is yet another embarrassing 1st round draft blunder for Keim and a move that marred his otherwise tremendous offseason. All he had to do is take one of the OTs and he woudl have been fine. Instead he shot himself in the foot, again.
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Based on the rotation during the game it appears not.
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Did it today? (I did not watch the game)
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How can Steve Keim rightfully employed after being so terrible for so long? I mean..
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Chopper0080
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I don't know. It seems one step forward and two back most of time at best. This year is further evidence of that. I just know that I have almost no faith in his ability to draft quality players.
Kyler pick + Hop trade secured his job for at least the next 3 years.
time for Mr. B to send a huge suitcase full of cash to Mr. Venables
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Why are you assuming he's better than what we have on the field? Don't you think the coaches know better than you?
Haason Reddick continues to be MUCH IMPROVED this year.
Weird offseason + young = not time to quit on Simmons
Weird offseason + young = not time to quit on Simmons
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I was convinced DJ Humphreys was a bust when he never got on the field his rookie year. At all. So, yeah, it's too early.
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What is the point of getting caught up in these transactional wins losing the big picture?
After 8 years at the helm, there is one playoff win.
The big picture also is that they have not made playoffs in 4 years. And they continue to look like team that still has more work left to do to even win 9 games consistently.
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