What is the plan?

[Chaplin]

Progress is not all-or-nothing. Has anyone here advocated the Suns winning a championship next year?

I hope someone in charge on the Suns understands that. This season, it took too long to show hints of progress.

And, over the past eight seasons, it has been regression rather than progress.

You ask why we need a veteran starting Point Guard? To make the rest of the offense better.

And to hold fort until a rookie PG develops NBA skill and confidence to fill that role.

Using our top pick on a Power Forward would be far less of a challenge to achieve success.

The Suns have been overloaded with youngsters. To continue that at Point Guard is to continue the problems.

You're not answering the question.

You want a veteran point guard. A veteran point guard who is better than Tyler Johnson. Already, your list is pretty short. Take away those point guards who are under contract and won't be traded, and those high value point guards that won't or can't sign here and what do you have left??

You want an experienced point guard who can hold down the fort while a rookie PG develops. Fine. Tell me again why Tyler Johnson doesn't fit that exact definition?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Using our top pick on a Power Forward would be far less of a challenge to achieve success.

HOLY F. THERE ARE NO POWER FORWARDS WORTH A HIGH PICK IN THIS DRAFT.

Saying the above as if the Suns would ignore good PF options in the draft without acknowledging there aren't even mediocre PF options where we're going to pick unless we get Zion either says you're not knowledgable about the players in this draft/who's coming out or just live in a myopia where you blow our lottery pick on ANY PF because that's what the team needs. This is becoming like your inane arguments about the Center position. The team not only had to be in position to take a great C (like a top 2 pick), but there ALSO had to be a Center worth taking in any draft we actually did get that chance. The Suns were never in a position to draft a Shaq, Zo, Mutombo, etc... and when they did go big, you probably celebrated them getting a stiff like Joel Barry Carrol. When you reach for a player simply because he plays a position of need, you get that stupid pick or the stupid as hell moves like trading for Hot Rod Williams or signing Luc Longley to an absurd contract.

 

[1tinsoldier]

You want an experienced point guard who can hold down the fort while a rookie PG develops. Fine. Tell me again why Tyler Johnson doesn't fit that exact definition?

again, because Tyler is, at best, a backup pg (11 pt, 4 ast, 37% per 31 minutes with Suns)
but i don't object to him filling in as a cheap option on a rebuilding team while we get Morant up to speed

if we don't get Morant, we need to deal with the pg position as the hole that it is
i'm still interested in developing Melton and Okobo off the bench

 

[1Sun]

I would think his learning curve should be about like Trae. Start out slow, pick it up by mid-january, humming along by the end of the year.

If next season we at all resemble the Atlanta Hawks from this season, expect both Booker and Ayton to demand trades.

 

[1Sun]

You're not answering the question.

You want a veteran point guard. A veteran point guard who is better than Tyler Johnson. Already, your list is pretty short. Take away those point guards who are under contract and won't be traded, and those high value point guards that won't or can't sign here and what do you have left??

You want an experienced point guard who can hold down the fort while a rookie PG develops. Fine. Tell me again why Tyler Johnson doesn't fit that exact definition?

Because Tyler Johnson is NOT a point guard.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

A starting PG that can allow Booker to play SG. Not a superstar or even a guy like Walker, just someone that doesn't hurt the team and averages more than 3 assists per game.

The idea that this seems unrealistic speaks to how far the franchise has fallen.

All I'm saying is that if Morant is a "project" the suns should look elsewhere to fill this need. The suns need a sure thing or as close to it as they can get.

Bookers health is also a consideration. If we draft a project that needs a year to develop we will be in really bad shape "when" Booker gets hurt next season.

lol now I think your expectations are too low.

First you don’t want Morant if he can’t start immediately as a rookie. Now you just want a guy that can average more than 3 assists per game.

No rookie should be counted in to start immediately. But literally every rookie is a “project.” Look at Lonzo ball. He was a “sure thing” coming out. So just becasue morant might not start immediately doesn’t make him someone to pass on. Particularly not for a low ceiling stopgap pg who can average more than 3 assists per game.

 

[taz02]

lol now I think your expectations are too low.

First you don’t want Morant if he can’t start immediately as a rookie. Now you just want a guy that can average more than 3 assists per game.

No rookie should be counted in to start immediately. But literally every rookie is a “project.” Look at Lonzo ball. He was a “sure thing” coming out. So just becasue morant might not start immediately doesn’t make him someone to pass on. Particularly not for a low ceiling stopgap pg who can average more than 3 assists per game.

First you don’t want Morant if he can’t start immediately as a rookie. I think what I said, or at least what I intended to say is that the suns should find a PG that can start next season. If the consensus is that Morant can start right away, like Ayton did for example then go for it. If not trade for someone who can.

guy that can average more than 3 assists per game. That was intended to be a jab at TJ2 averaging 2.5APG. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Yuma]

HOLY F. THERE ARE NO POWER FORWARDS WORTH A HIGH PICK IN THIS DRAFT.

Saying the above as if the Suns would ignore good PF options in the draft without acknowledging there aren't even mediocre PF options where we're going to pick unless we get Zion either says you're not knowledgable about the players in this draft/who's coming out or just live in a myopia where you blow our lottery pick on ANY PF because that's what the team needs. This is becoming like your inane arguments about the Center position. The team not only had to be in position to take a great C (like a top 2 pick), but there ALSO had to be a Center worth taking in any draft we actually did get that chance. The Suns were never in a position to draft a Shaq, Zo, Mutombo, etc... and when they did go big, you probably celebrated them getting a stiff like Joel Barry Carrol. When you reach for a player simply because he plays a position of need, you get that stupid pick or the stupid as hell moves like trading for Hot Rod Williams or signing Luc Longley to an absurd contract.

UNLESS, we pick at 7!

 

[Chaplin]

We're almost certainly NOT giving up on DeAnthony Melton...

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[Yuma]

According to one NBA executive, the Bulls and Lakers did start initial conversations on point guard Lonzo Ball shortly after the Ball camp made it public that the Bulls would be one of his desired destinationsif Los Angeles were to move him.

6 days ago – via Chicago Sun-Times

 

[Hoop Head]

That's interesting. Maybe the Bulls can make something happen there but other than Robin Lopez I'm not sure who they have that would help the Lakers win now. They have Zach LaVine and Otto Porter also but I don't think the Lakers would interested in either player given their current salaries. Porter is on a max contract and plays the same position as Lebron and LaVine is making $20 million a year for the next 3 years. Maybe a 3 team trade could be worked out. If the Bulls have that high of interest and believe they can find a way to make a trade for Ball, perhaps they go with Barrett instead of Morant if they pick #2.

 

[Hoop Head]

Found out what the plan was, Sarver has become a train conductor!

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[Mainstreet]

James Jones will be talking to the local media tomorrow. No Sarver no Bower.


Evan Sidery‏ @esidery


James Jones will be speaking to the local media tomorrow after firing Igor Kokoskov. Neither Jeff Bower or Robert Sarver will be joining Jones.


5:49 PM - 23 Apr 2019

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is the new Suns intro video. I see Oubre, Holmes and Johnson in the video not that it couldn't change.

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[Yuma]

Here is the new Suns intro video. I see Oubre, Holmes and Johnson in the video not that it couldn't change.

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TJ Warren too! I did NOT see Jimmer.

 

[Mainstreet]

TJ Warren too! I did NOT see Jimmer.

I have to admit I was not looking for Jimmer. The way the video was made, it will be easy to edit.

Troy Daniels was in the video. No Bender.

 

[Yuma]

I noticed no Bender, too.

 

[slinslin]

how is that a "new" intro video? It is the intro video from this last season...

 

[Yuma]

how is that a "new" intro video? It is the intro video from this last season...

Maybe 30 seconds. It is new.

 

[AzStevenCal]

how is that a "new" intro video? It is the intro video from this last season...

Not if it includes Oubre and Johnson? I don't know when it was made but it would have to be newer than the one that introduced the team going into the season.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah. I just noticed it was from the 2018-19 season.

As Gilda Radner might say. Nevermind

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah. I just noticed it was from the 2018-18 season.

As Gilda Radner might say. Nevermind

I can see why you posted it. It makes no sense for the Suns to tweet that out as something new today.

 

[Mainstreet]

I can see why you posted it. It makes no sense for the Suns to tweet that out as something new today.

At first glance it looked to be new and I guess it was in a way.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns might change their training staff as well. With all the injuries it's worth reviewing.


Evan Sidery‏ @esidery


.@kevinarnovitz said today on @ZachLowe_NBA’s podcast that the Suns might fully overhaul their basketball operations on all levels. Could lead to training staff being replaced for first time under Sarver’s ownership.


11:29 AM - 24 Apr 2019

 

[Proximo]

We're almost certainly NOT giving up on DeAnthony Melton...

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Don't be so sure. Okobo is under contract 3 more years, and has much more potential offensively