What next?

[Russ Smith]

No feel at all for the coaching, will Mac survive the bye? Defense was actually pretty good save the long run by Lewis and even then we held them to a FG. Blake GAVE them 10 points, the punt block gave them anohter 7 and that's why we lost.

Really frustrated with Blake this offense showed again it CAN move the football, but his mistakes keep killing us. He is too experienced to keep doing that, especially in scoring position.

About teh only good news is Shipp playing well and the defense playing better but lets be real with Boller at QB they're a fairly easy team to defend, play the run.

Hopefully BLake's heel gets better over the bye it appears Mac is going to play him for now so at least if he's healthy that will help some. I would have pulled him for Josh today after the TD return by McAllister.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
No feel at all for the coaching, will Mac survive the bye? Defense was actually pretty good save the long run by Lewis and even then we held them to a FG. Blake GAVE them 10 points, the punt block gave them anohter 7 and that's why we lost.

Really frustrated with Blake this offense showed again it CAN move the football, but his mistakes keep killing us. He is too experienced to keep doing that, especially in scoring position.

About teh only good news is Shipp playing well and the defense playing better but lets be real with Boller at QB they're a fairly easy team to defend, play the run.

Hopefully BLake's heel gets better over the bye it appears Mac is going to play him for now so at least if he's healthy that will help some. I would have pulled him for Josh today after the TD return by McAllister.

Russ, there wee times today that the Cards had 9 in the box and couldnt stop Lewis. I agree they only allowed the 3 Fg's early, but I think that was due more to Boller not being able to make plays than the defense stopping anyone.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Re: Re: What next?

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
Russ, there wee times today that the Cards had 9 in the box and couldnt stop Lewis. I agree they only allowed the 3 Fg's early, but I think that was due more to Boller not being able to make plays than the defense stopping anyone.

maybe its because of boller that blt only scored 12 offensive points. Nevertheless, the defense did its job today. Blake just stunk it up. and the blocked punt. those were the reasons we lost.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
No feel at all for the coaching, will Mac survive the bye? Defense was actually pretty good save the long run by Lewis and even then we held them to a FG. Blake GAVE them 10 points, the punt block gave them anohter 7 and that's why we lost.

Really frustrated with Blake this offense showed again it CAN move the football, but his mistakes keep killing us. He is too experienced to keep doing that, especially in scoring position.

About teh only good news is Shipp playing well and the defense playing better but lets be real with Boller at QB they're a fairly easy team to defend, play the run.

Hopefully BLake's heel gets better over the bye it appears Mac is going to play him for now so at least if he's healthy that will help some. I would have pulled him for Josh today after the TD return by McAllister.

You are SO WRONG!

We gave them 17 points!

Thie was a good team effort by the defense and all the offensive player BUT BLAKE who sucked, stink, blew, was pitiful, awful, stupid, and ********.

WHY DON'T WE THROW THE BALL DOWN FIELD!?

 

[Russ Smith]

I guess my point about the D is they only allowed 12 points. Not saying great by any means, but better. AS I said it's because of Boller though.

I'm just so frustrated with Blake he's the only guy we can hope to win with at QB in my opinion but he's killing us with the mistakes.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You know Shipp didn't have a great game but how can the coahcing staff not see that he is much better than Emmitt.He's bigger,stronger,faster,and runs harder.The coaching staff had to be under orders to play Emmitt.An entire coaching could not possibly miss it.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
You know Shipp didn't have a great game but how can the coahcing staff not see that he is much better than Emmitt.He's bigger,stronger,faster,and runs harder.The coaching staff had to be under orders to play Emmitt.An entire coaching could not possibly miss it.

over four yards a pop for marcell today. not bad I admit.

I actually thought our o line did not play that bad today. big looked more like himself, shelton played well, spikes looked ok.

kendell and spikes did ok. kendell was running his mouth and made another stupid penalty. he actually had two penalties on the day.

 

[jmt]

Blake lost this game - PUNTO. In fact he has generally been inept. This team is going nowhere - time to paly Mcown or Parsons to determine if we really need to drarft a QB next year.

 

[conraddobler]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
I guess my point about the D is they only allowed 12 points. Not saying great by any means, but better. AS I said it's because of Boller though.

I'm just so frustrated with Blake he's the only guy we can hope to win with at QB in my opinion but he's killing us with the mistakes.

What's next is firing the HC and benching Blake.

The season is toast.

We have 5 losses we are going no where and need to look to how to fix it more than how to eek out a couple more wins.

Tank the season draft high and get a great coach that's what's next.

Use the rest of the season to impress upon players that their future job lies in how they perform and nothing more.

Start McCown and figure out what if anything is there and make decisions this off season accordingly.

I could go on but that is a start.

 

[OmahaCardsFan]

Blake made some bad throws but...

He was trying to make something happen on a couple of those int's. Look at the receiving crew he had to throw to. Boldin and Jones and that's it. Plus they had to keep full protection on a lot to keep blake from getting killed. NO excuses, but I get the feeling he's trying to make something happen when there is no way in hell this team has the talent to do so. Just an observation. This was the same thing that happened to Jake (at times). We need more than just boldin and jones. Plus we need to replace 40% of the offensive line. Also address the coaching, defensive backs and most of all, the DL. That's a lot and 1 guy is trying to fit a football into a 6 inch diameter from 20 yards away.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Re: Blake made some bad throws but...

Originally posted by OmahaCardsFan
He was trying to make something happen on a couple of those int's. Look at the receiving crew he had to throw to. Boldin and Jones and that's it. Plus they had to keep full protection on a lot to keep blake from getting killed. NO excuses, but I get the feeling he's trying to make something happen when there is no way in hell this team has the talent to do so. Just an observation. This was the same thing that happened to Jake (at times). We need more than just boldin and jones. Plus we need to replace 40% of the offensive line. Also address the coaching, defensive backs and most of all, the DL. That's a lot and 1 guy is trying to fit a football into a 6 inch diameter from 20 yards away.

on the pick for the TD, boldin was open, blake just flat out made a bad throw.

that time, there was a chance for blake to make a play, but that toss had six for the ravens written on it as soon as it left his hand!

 

[DeAnna]

Re: Blake made some bad throws but...

Originally posted by OmahaCardsFan
He was trying to make something happen on a couple of those int's. Look at the receiving crew he had to throw to. Boldin and Jones and that's it. Plus they had to keep full protection on a lot to keep blake from getting killed. NO excuses, but I get the feeling he's trying to make something happen when there is no way in hell this team has the talent to do so. Just an observation. This was the same thing that happened to Jake (at times). We need more than just boldin and jones. Plus we need to replace 40% of the offensive line. Also address the coaching, defensive backs and most of all, the DL. That's a lot and 1 guy is trying to fit a football into a 6 inch diameter from 20 yards away.

BINGO! Finally, someone who gets it. Why is everyone always railing on the QB? Maybe the receiver went the wrong way -- Maybe the receiver let the defender get in front of him -- maybe the receiver got jammed at the line. Any number of things could've been the reason it went wrong.

On the drive home, Raynoch admitted he missed his gap and that led to Jamal Lewis' big run. At least he was big enough to admit it.

 

[cardpa]

I finally got to watch a game and its quite evident that this team is poorly coached and poorly game planned.

The o-line is a disaster. Blake looked like he had happy feet and was more worried about being blasted by a lineman or blitzing LB than where to throw the ball.

The blocked punt was a result of a missed block by Fisher. The guy just blew past him.

Why are the LBs always lining up 5-7 yards off the line of scrimmage. The Raven LBs where alot closer and at least showed the potential of blitzing.

What kind of play was that on the 4 and 2 attempt late in the 3rd. They were ripe for a QB sneak or draw and Blake never even picked that up. No RB on this play pretty much telegraphs you are going to throw.

Shipp did not get enough carrries even though the game was close and he was having a good game.

Its time to get a hard a$$ in here who will not take excuses for the poor play and poor coaching that exists now. Here's hoping that Mac gets canned over the off week even though I don't think that will happen.

 

[Russ Smith]

Re: Blake made some bad throws but...

Originally posted by OmahaCardsFan
He was trying to make something happen on a couple of those int's. Look at the receiving crew he had to throw to. Boldin and Jones and that's it. Plus they had to keep full protection on a lot to keep blake from getting killed. NO excuses, but I get the feeling he's trying to make something happen when there is no way in hell this team has the talent to do so. Just an observation. This was the same thing that happened to Jake (at times). We need more than just boldin and jones. Plus we need to replace 40% of the offensive line. Also address the coaching, defensive backs and most of all, the DL. That's a lot and 1 guy is trying to fit a football into a 6 inch diameter from 20 yards away.

I like Jeff as much as anybody and if we go to McCown we may not win another game, but trying to make something happen is no excuse. It wasn't for Jake and it's not for Jeff.

Boldin wasn't open there were 2 guys there, Jeff never looked away, and he got picked for a TD. The one that Reed picked again, Jones wasn't open Reed was basically sitting on that route, they must have known from playing with Blake where he'd be looking. Take those 2 plays back and kick 2 FG's and we win the game 22-19.

I still think Blake is the best QB on this team by far, and better than what we had the last 6 years, but he has GOT to start playing smarter.

I think he's making the same mistake Jake made last year where he got so locked in on throwing to an injured Boston(who wasn't getting open) that he just started telegraphing throws. That's why his numbers got better AFTER Boston got hurt, he was forced to spread it out.

Jeff is so locked into Boldin and Jones that teams can sit on them. By my count 5 of his picks this year have been balls thrown to Boldin, not saying ignore Quan but don't force balls to him when you're in scoring range.

 

[Russ Smith]

Re: Re: Blake made some bad throws but...

Originally posted by Crimson Warrior
on the pick for the TD, boldin was open, blake just flat out made a bad throw.

that time, there was a chance for blake to make a play, but that toss had six for the ravens written on it as soon as it left his hand!

It was behind him but I disagree he was open there were 2 guys there. McAllister said that he and Tommy Knight diagnosed the play right before the snap from the formation, he said we had just discussed that exact play, they ran it and I was in the right place right time.

Bad throw by Blake and bad decision but once again is there another team in the NFL that week after week the opponents talk about knowing the plays because of formations?

Bottom line is a veteran QB in scoring position can NOT throw that ball he has to be careful.