What Player and/or Positions Would You Hate at 16

[Krangodnzr]

I would not be at all surprised if one for the day 2 receivers turns out the best in this class.

I really like Jalen Royals, but I'm not sure we need a do it all receiver. Harrison and Wilson are both good players. What we lack is a true deep threat which is why I often mention Horton. But someone like Tez Johnson might work. His 40 time was bad so he's getting slated but his tape is quick and his analytics are up there at the top of this class.

Kyle Williams is your deep threat. I like his tape.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Plus ARon didn't come into the league like that. He earned his crazy.

Side note: He's done with working hard. Football is not his priority right now. His words. He should just retire. As Chuck Noll said, "If you're thinking about retiring, you're retired."

Nah rodgers was an ass before the league. CLose friend knew him.

 

[Stout]

Nah rodgers was an ass before the league. CLose friend knew him.

Personally he was an ass, maybe, but he wasn't an in your face in public I'm the king of the world type of ass.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Nah rodgers was an ass before the league. CLose friend knew him.

The information that bothers me the most about Rodgers is what he did to his family. Once he came into the league, he essentially just cut them all off. They are seemingly good people and they have said publicly that they want a relationship with him and he just doesn't have contact with them. Very sad for the family.

 

[cardpa]

It is exactly why I didn't add TE to my list. If Warren falls, snatch him up and then we should love our receiving options of MHJ, McBride, and Warren.

Totally agree, if Warren is there at 16 you grab him. He can actually bring more to the table than Mcbride as far as overall abilities. He was a HS QB. We would see production unseen since the Gronk/Hernandez days. Additionally both are competent blockers. Imagine what that would do for the running game and the headaches it would cause for defenses.

 

[GatorAZ]

The information that bothers me the most about Rodgers is what he did to his family. Once he came into the league, he essentially just cut them all off. They are seemingly good people and they have said publicly that they want a relationship with him and he just doesn't have contact with them. Very sad for the family.

We really don’t know their family dynamics. There’s two sides to every story.

 

[DVontel]

The information that bothers me the most about Rodgers is what he did to his family. Once he came into the league, he essentially just cut them all off. They are seemingly good people and they have said publicly that they want a relationship with him and he just doesn't have contact with them. Very sad for the family.

I mean he took photos with his family when the Packers won the SB & that was years after he came into the league.

 

[Russ Smith]

Nah rodgers was an ass before the league. CLose friend knew him.

I think the issue with him is he never lost the chip on his shoulder for being overlooked in HS and JC.

 

[GatorAZ]

I think the issue with him is he never lost the chip on his shoulder for being overlooked in HS and JC.

I remember liking him at Cal but never thought he was a special talent or anything. I don’t even remember being upset when the Cards passed on him in 05’.

 

[unseenaz]

I would not be at all surprised if one for the day 2 receivers turns out the best in this class.

I really like Jalen Royals, but I'm not sure we need a do it all receiver. Harrison and Wilson are both good players. What we lack is a true deep threat which is why I often mention Horton. But someone like Tez Johnson might work. His 40 time was bad so he's getting slated but his tape is quick and his analytics are up there at the top of this class.

Would love Tez Johnson on the Cardinals.

 

[CardNots]

Would love Tez Johnson on the Cardinals.

Very slight at 160 pounds.

 

[Russ Smith]

I remember liking him at Cal but never thought he was a special talent or anything. I don’t even remember being upset when the Cards passed on him in 05’.

I actually started a thread saying we should draft him that year, I loved him in college you could see how accurate he was and how much stronger his arm was than people realized. I still can't believe the 49ers passed on him for Alex Smith.

But he's a total dick now

 

[oaken1]

I actually started a thread saying we should draft him that year, I loved him in college you could see how accurate he was and how much stronger his arm was than people realized. I still can't believe the 49ers passed on him for Alex Smith.

But he's a total dick now

Rodgers was passed on for being a Jeff Tedford QB...none of which had done well in the NFL prior.
But I really do think that long humiliating stay in the green room, followed by having to sit behind Favre for a couple years,...is exactly why Aaron succeeded... it instilled him with a very high level of innate "Fehoko" you....Favre was pretty much a jackass that wasnt ready to walk into the sunset...I remember him getting pissed when asked about mentoring Rodgers, and he was saying he is a Quarterback and it aint his job to teach Aaron a damn thing..so their relationship was competitive/adversarial at best..... for a guy who beleived he was going to be #1 overall...to go that late, then have to play backup to a crusty old jackass...must have been a bitter pill for the kid, lol.

 

[GatorAZ]

Rodgers was passed on for being a Jeff Tedford QB...none of which had done well in the NFL prior.
But I really do think that long humiliating stay in the green room, followed by having to sit behind Favre for a couple years,...is exactly why Aaron succeeded... it instilled him with a very high level of innate "Fehoko" you....Favre was pretty much a jackass that wasnt ready to walk into the sunset...I remember him getting pissed when asked about mentoring Rodgers, and he was saying he is a Quarterback and it aint his job to teach Aaron a damn thing..so their relationship was competitive/adversarial at best..... for a guy who beleived he was going to be #1 overall...to go that late, then have to play backup to a crusty old jackass...must have been a bitter pill for the kid, lol.

We weren’t any great shakes back then but A-Aron sitting behind Kurt for a year wouldn’t have been the worst thing. As we know now Kurt still had gas left in the tank by then.

 

[oaken1]

We weren’t any great shakes back then but A-Aron sitting behind Kurt for a year wouldn’t have been the worst thing. As we know now Kurt still had gas left in the tank by then.

he may have come out of it with a better attitude sitting behind Kurt instead of Favre too

 

[Krangodnzr]

I mean he took photos with his family when the Packers won the SB & that was years after he came into the league.

Googled it, and the estrangement happened in 2014.

 

[football karma]

Kyle Williams is your deep threat. I like his tape.

he seems to be the best combo of:

should be available in round 2 or later
vertical element to his game w/matching timed speed
good rac element

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We really don’t know their family dynamics. There’s two sides to every story.

Agreed. When it comes to family stuff no one knows but the family.

 

[phillycard]

Very slight at 160 pounds.

And ran horribly at the combine.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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[blindseyed]

Shedeur Sanders at 16 would make me quit the Cards lol

 

[CardNots]

Shedeur Sanders at 16 would make me quit the Cards lol

I’m pretty sure if you were going to quit the Cardinals you would have done it long ago

 

[MadCardDisease]

re: Tyler Booker, I would disagree with the strategy but I could see the GM thought process. He isn't bullet proof as a prospect but he is very safe. He fills a huge need and is strong enough to set the firm front of the pocket I feel Kyler needs. He also is young, very physical, and athletic enough.

My frustration would be less about the player and more about the positional value and 5th year contract issue. I would love Booker in round 2 but don't think he will be there. He is also a player I would trade up in round 2 for.

So I take back my total hate for Booker at #16. The more I watch video of him, the more I understand how people are so high on him.

I can clearly see how he would fit Petzing's power running game. Booker is a complete mauler!!! Plus Booker is really strong when it comes to pass blocking and he was a team captain last season. So he would fit right into the scheme and the culture of this team. Not to mention he has elite size with top tier arm length and massive hands. Once he locks onto you with those big meat hooks there is not getting away.

I'm just so hesitant on drafting a Guard with the #16 overall pick. For him to be the #16 overall pick, he would have to be a starter from day one. I don't think you can take a OG that high and not have him be dominate from day one. But man he does fill a need and would be fun to watch if he ends up playing like he did in Alabama.

 

[oaken1]

So I take back my total hate for Booker at #16. The more I watch video of him, the more I understand how people are so high on him.

I can clearly see how he would fit Petzing's power running game. Booker is a complete mauler!!! Plus Booker is really strong when it comes to pass blocking and he was a team captain last season. So he would fit right into the scheme and the culture of this team. Not to mention he has elite size with top tier arm length and massive hands. Once he locks onto you with those big meat hooks there is not getting away.

I'm just so hesitant on drafting a Guard with the #16 overall pick. For him to be the #16 overall pick, he would have to be a starter from day one. I don't think you can take a OG that high and not have him be dominate from day one. But man he does fill a need and would be fun to watch if he ends up playing like he did in Alabama.

agree.
There is a part of me that would be excited if we traded back into the first round from 48 and came out of the draft with Booker and Simmons in the first round.
Not sexy, but solidifying the offensive line for the next decade would do wonders for our offense.
Then maybe package our third round pick with Jalen Thompson to move back into the second,...and get a DT there.