Where will Jimmy Butler end up? 2025 edition

[Phrazbit]

This team should be working on two trades, neither of which involve Jimmy Butler.

KD to the Rockets for two of our picks back (or more if they can get them)

Booker to GS for Wiggins, and 3 or four future first round picks starting in 2028 or 2029.

Booker's value should hold or maybe even increase with a change of supporting cast. IMO, they should hold off on trading him.

Unless he starts rattling cages, I don't think it makes sense to move him, I don't think it helps the team, especially considering they, even at the most optimistic, only would control their pick every other year.

And if we cannot swing a Durant deal with Houston then, IMO, we have to keep Booker, because blowing it up without our picks is apocalyptic.

 

[hcsilla]

Sidery is reporting that Butler has basically shut down all other teams. It's Phoenix or bust for him. According to reports his agent has told other teams he is not willing to sign an extension anywhere but Phoenix.

That's a bad sign for us. Durant's and Beal's ideal destination was also Phoenix, and both their former teams used this to squeeze out everything from the Suns which Ishbia enthusiastically assisted to.

I'm afraid of happening this again in case of Butler which means Dunn and Ighodaro will be traded next to the 2031 unprotected first. Add the max. extension for Butler and the Suns digged themselves as deep as possible.

 

[Covert Rain]

This team should be working on two trades, neither of which involve Jimmy Butler.

KD to the Rockets for two of our picks back (or more if they can get them)

Booker to GS for Wiggins, and 3 or four future first round picks starting in 2028 or 2029.

The more time goes by the more I am weary of the Butler trade. Especially, if we give up a 1st. To me that's a no go. If the team is going to blow up it up they can't do it half baked. Trade KD, Trade Beal and trade Booker. If we can get a good player back and 3 to 4 1sts?! That's a good haul for a player who has never won a title. Again, I am confident, Ishbia would parlay the new assets into trades and he would go after FA. I don't see a scenario where Isbia let's this team languish in a rebuild for decade. Nothing about Ishbia screams patience.

 

[Ronin]

Evan Sidery

@esidery
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29m

The Heat have no trade offer they currently like for Jimmy Butler, so he’s on the verge of returning to the team next week.Butler wants to join the Suns and is ready to make it even more uncomfortable for Miami, if they don’t bend to his demands soon.Buckle up, everybody.

 

[Covert Rain]

Evan Sidery
@esidery
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29m

The Heat have no trade offer they currently like for Jimmy Butler, so he’s on the verge of returning to the team next week.Butler wants to join the Suns and is ready to make it even more uncomfortable for Miami, if they don’t bend to his demands soon.Buckle up, everybody.

Nobody is going to give the farm for Butler and Butler by reports is making it impossible by telling all teams but the Suns don't bother I won't resign with you. Miami just has to decide will they take what they can get or just deal with the headache and let him eventually walk. I wouldn't bet against Pat Riley sticking to his guns but you never know.

 

[SirStefan32]

I am OK with all this as long as the Suns don't give up picks and the two youngsters to the third team. I do have some concerns with Butler but they are the same ones I had with CP3. He'll hold guys accountable, but that ends up annoying everyone eventually. I still can't imagine how this goes through, but as long as we are not giving away what little assets we have (Dunn, Oso, 31 pick), I am OK with it.

 

[hcsilla]

I am OK with all this as long as the Suns don't give up picks and the two youngsters to the third team. I do have some concerns with Butler but they are the same ones I had with CP3. He'll hold guys accountable, but that ends up annoying everyone eventually. I still can't imagine how this goes through, but as long as we are not giving away what little assets we have (Dunn, Oso, 31 pick), I am OK with it.

There is absolutely no way that the Suns can trade Beal for Butler without attaching assets with significant value.

 

[Covert Rain]

There is absolutely no way that the Suns can trade Beal for Butler without attaching assets with significant value.

That normally applies when there is a market you are competing with. According to reports, that market is the Suns. Let say the Suns get a 3rd team involved and are willing to only part with a 2nd and whatever that 3rd team is willing to part with. Who are they competing against? Reports are no other team has made a good offer, Butler is telling other teams he won't sign an extension with them.

IF that is true, sounds like it's going to be a take it or leave it deal on the table for Miami or let him eventually walk. The Suns IMO are going to have to at the very least give up some pick. I just don't want it to be our 1st.

 

[95pro]

Nobody is going to give the farm for Butler and Butler by reports is making it impossible by telling all teams but the Suns don't bother I won't resign with you. Miami just has to decide will they take what they can get or just deal with the headache and let him eventually walk. I wouldn't bet against Pat Riley sticking to his guns but you never know.

Riley is also part owner I believe, so i'm not sure its in his best interest to play hardball here and lose Jimmy for nothing, while having the image of the entire Heat organization soured.

 

[hcsilla]

That normally applies when there is a market you are competing with. According to reports, that market is the Suns. Let say the Suns get a 3rd team involved and are willing to only part with a 2nd and whatever that 3rd team is willing to part with. Who are they competing against?

Agaist the Heat doing nothing, not taking Beal's contract and letting Butler's contract to expire.

Reports are no other team has made a good offer.

Reports are the Suns has not either, since they can not.

 

[Covert Rain]

Agaist the Heat doing nothing, not taking Beal's contract and letting Butler's contract to expire.

Reports are the Suns has not either, since they can not.

Meaning there is zero incentive for the Suns to offer the farm when nobody is submitting competing offers. The Suns can make an offer. They could trade Beal and involve a 3rd team for example. It's not likely but the Suns are not prohibited by league rules from making a trade. It just won't be easy.

 

[GatorAZ]

Riley is also part owner I believe, so i'm not sure it’s in his best interest to play hardball here and lose Jimmy for nothing, while having the image of the entire Heat organization soured.

They want him to opt out. They’d have $50m or so in cap space if he did and FA’s like Miami. There’s no reason for them to settle for less than great return.

 

[hcsilla]

Meaning there is zero incentive for the Suns to offer the farm when nobody is submitting competing offers. The Suns can make an offer. They could trade Beal and involve a 3rd team for example. It's not likely but the Suns are not prohibited by league rules from making a trade. It just won't be easy.

Yes, but if this is the only offer what the will get for Butler, it is an easy decision for the Heat and they will simply refuse it for sure.

 

[95pro]

They want him to opt out. They’d have $50m or so in cap space if he did and FA’s like Miami. There’s no reason for them to settle for less than great return.

I didn't realize they were in that good of shape cap-space wise.

But then Butler can just opt-in for his player option and continue this.