Which QB would you draft?

[Jetstream Green]

John Skelton is tall.

which always makes me scratch my head when a guy that tall delivers a pass into the turf. Over throwing, that is expected but to get the arc of the ball into the turf on a short pass just screams horrible accuracy LOL

 

[Totally_Red]

I think Landry Jones is the best o fthe bunch and can be had early in the 2nd

I'd take him in the third round if he's there. He's definitely not very mobile, but he is extremely accurate in the short to intermediate range and is a high character individual. But he does throw a lot of interceptions. It will be interesting to see where he is taken.

 

[Mulli]

Aaron Murray

if he doesn't come out

Tyler Wilson

Me too.

 

[TRW]

If Whisenhunt is still here I hope they don't take any young QB. He would be absolutely ruined by his "system".

New OC and new system I'd take Chopper's scenario and get 2 a la the Redskins.

 

[Southpaw]

Geno Smith 1st round if available.

 

[Russ Smith]

I wouldn't take a QB in round one unless Wilson slips ala Aaron Rodgers and you can move up and get him.

First round pick should be a pass rushing LB or an OL depending on where we pick. I could live with another DB since we still have issues at CB and S.

My dream scenario right now would be get Te'o, have Barr come out and slip into the 2nd round, and then take a QB in round 3. I want a QB but there are none in this draft that I consider clear cut.

I expect an interesting offseason we could see more players asking to be traded including Fitz, we have no idea what the roster and draft picks will look like until all the dust settles. if this is a boring offseason the Cards have really screwed up IMO.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I wouldn't pay a premium for any of the QB's in this draft but if Smith tests out well and he is available I'd take him. If not, I'd take the best QB on the board with our second pick.

Steve

 

[Southpaw]

Is Matt Faulkner, from San Jose State,available?

How about Taylor Heineke , Old Dominion?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/21367616/heinickes-prolific-season-goes-under-radar-at-old-dominion

 

[Chopper0080]

He's like an inch shorter than Joe Montana.

Different era and again, exception not a rule.

 

[Chopper0080]

Matt Stafford
Matt Ryan
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Carson Palmer
Andrew Luck
Eli Manning
Matt Shaub
Joe Flacco
Josh Freeman
Cam Newton
Brandon Weeden
Sam Bradford
ryan Tannahill
Jay Cutler
Ben Roethlisberger

All 6'3" or taller

Even Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andy Dalton, and Robert Griffin III are all 6'2".

Again, when it comes to size, some guys are exceptions to the rule.

 

[Russ Smith]

Is Matt Faulkner, from San Jose State,available?

How about Taylor Heineke , Old Dominion?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/21367616/heinickes-prolific-season-goes-under-radar-at-old-dominion

Do not draft a QB from SJS, those days are long gone I think the last good one they had was Steve Clarkson who's now a QB coach.

 

[Russ Smith]

which always makes me scratch my head when a guy that tall delivers a pass into the turf. Over throwing, that is expected but to get the arc of the ball into the turf on a short pass just screams horrible accuracy LOL

That one I can actually see being coaching. He was so bad at throwing the ball high his first 2 years I imagine they were trying to get him to learn to get the ball down, and he probably holds the ball too long and hits the turf now.

 

[Jetstream Green]

That one I can actually see being coaching. He was so bad at throwing the ball high his first 2 years I imagine they were trying to get him to learn to get the ball down, and he probably holds the ball too long and hits the turf now.

I'm just baffled that a guy so tall can find the turf on a five yard pass, he almost has to try to spike the ball instead of throw it

 

[Totally_Red]

I wouldn't take a QB in round one unless Wilson slips ala Aaron Rodgers and you can move up and get him.

First round pick should be a pass rushing LB or an OL depending on where we pick. I could live with another DB since we still have issues at CB and S.

My dream scenario right now would be get Te'o, have Barr come out and slip into the 2nd round, and then take a QB in round 3. I want a QB but there are none in this draft that I consider clear cut.

I expect an interesting offseason we could see more players asking to be traded including Fitz, we have no idea what the roster and draft picks will look like until all the dust settles. if this is a boring offseason the Cards have really screwed up IMO.

Agree. To me it would smack of Levi Brown all over again: a need-based desperation pick of a mediocre talent. The draft is shaping up as defense heavy at the top with the exception of a couple of offensive tackles. I'd go defense or offensive tackle and get the QB later, possibly the dude from Syracuse that MD Card likes.

 

[Goldfield]

John Skelton is tall.

Lol...


I like Arron Murray. I think he has "it"..

He doesn't have a cannon and he isn't ideal height. I don't care I see winner when I watch him.

In a perfect world I would say trade back in round one, pick up a second rounder, draft Arron Murray in the middle of the first and focus on fixing the oline, and find a quality RB.

 

[conraddobler]

That one I can actually see being coaching. He was so bad at throwing the ball high his first 2 years I imagine they were trying to get him to learn to get the ball down, and he probably holds the ball too long and hits the turf now.

How good is our QB coach?

I'm not saying John Skelton isn't the problem, I'm sure he is, however you'd think that a QB would get better not worse even if that better isn't ever good enough?

Does this make sense because I think all of ours get worse not better?

It seems to me that we should invest in getting someone who knows how to teach being an NFL QB, cause it seems we don't have that guy right now.

Some things are beyond teaching but it doesn't seem to me that the coachable things really ever get better instead they get worse, just MO.

 

[Russ Smith]

How good is our QB coach?

I'm not saying John Skelton isn't the problem, I'm sure he is, however you'd think that a QB would get better not worse even if that better isn't ever good enough?

Does this make sense because I think all of ours get worse not better?

It seems to me that we should invest in getting someone who knows how to teach being an NFL QB, cause it seems we don't have that guy right now.

Some things are beyond teaching but it doesn't seem to me that the coachable things really ever get better instead they get worse, just MO.

I think with some guys mechanics are just impossible. They are what they are and if you try and tinker they just get confused. Skelton still misses high, but now he's missing low too. Whether that's coaching or his own compensation for high throws I have no idea.

If you've every tried to flycast a floating line you could relate it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have until you "get it" you're going to try and power the thing out there and that's the exact wrong thing to do. You have to let the line load the rod or the cast won't go anywhere. For some guys throwing a football is just like that.

I think in general by the time guys get to the NFL they either have good mechanics or they don't, it's all the other stuff that's coachable like reading defenses, cadence etc.

 

[conraddobler]

I think with some guys mechanics are just impossible. They are what they are and if you try and tinker they just get confused. Skelton still misses high, but now he's missing low too. Whether that's coaching or his own compensation for high throws I have no idea.

If you've every tried to flycast a floating line you could relate it doesn't matter how good of a coach you have until you "get it" you're going to try and power the thing out there and that's the exact wrong thing to do. You have to let the line load the rod or the cast won't go anywhere. For some guys throwing a football is just like that.

I think in general by the time guys get to the NFL they either have good mechanics or they don't, it's all the other stuff that's coachable like reading defenses, cadence etc.

So then someone who evaluates QB's didn't catch this?

Cause if your guy throws high, he's always going to throw high and the odds of you fixing this aren't that good right?

So wouldn't you put a premium on a guy who can at least put the ball where he wants to?

To me that would be something I'd look for before I got a guy, I guess they figured they'd try and fix him and it didn't work, and then he can't seem to read defenses either or line up properly etc.

Again though it should be kind of obvious to me that a kid would either be good at learning that or not.

I just don't see how we get all these misses unless the person doing the aiming has about the same accuracy as our QB's, maybe that's the problem?

 

[Russ Smith]

So then someone who evaluates QB's didn't catch this?

Cause if your guy throws high, he's always going to throw high and the odds of you fixing this aren't that good right?

So wouldn't you put a premium on a guy who can at least put the ball where he wants to?

To me that would be something I'd look for before I got a guy, I guess they figured they'd try and fix him and it didn't work, and then he can't seem to read defenses either or line up properly etc.

Again though it should be kind of obvious to me that a kid would either be good at learning that or not.

I just don't see how we get all these misses unless the person doing the aiming has about the same accuracy as our QB's, maybe that's the problem?

Well remember Skelton was a 5th round pick. They hoped to catch lightning in a bottle but they really missed on Kolb. The bad thing was having Kolb and Skindley as your only 3 QB's. one can't stay healthy the other 2 were low draft picks who weren't accurate in college.

Then due to bad OL play you put in an offense that requires accuracy because you have to complete more short passes to move the ball, and you have a recipe for disaster.

I'd say if and when Whiz gets fired it'll be because of his inability to find a QB for sure.

 

[john h]

At this moment, who would you select for the Cards if you had to select a QB. I'm not going to present this as poll because there are way too many options at this point. You do not have to list the round selected or your second and third choices. Simply, you are drafting and whoever you want will be there. This is interesting to do, because removed from the upcoming bowl games, it relies more on what we have seen on the field during their tenure and not combine antics of jump, hop and moxie skip. Plus, none of us are qualified to be scouts, and we can make any ludicrous selections we want from our extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemely limited film exposure to base judgement

I select Tyler Wilson

I would draft Tyler Wilson because I have watched all his games for three years. Often in person so he is the one I know most about. He has the size and the arm and most of all he has the intelligence and courage. He is very smart and chose to stay in school and graduate. He is well spoken before an audience and seems to me to have that certain character of a winner. A born leader. There may be better choices but I have not seen them. Recognize I am a homer but I believe he is the real deal for a future NFL star. The kind of guy you want as a neighbor or a son in law with the strength of a grizzly bear who will stand in and take the heat. Arkansas had a bad year this year largely because of he Bobby Petrino incident. He was fired just before the season started and he was the real offensive coordinator. Maybe Wilson might be over looked as a result of this and we might have a shot a him. I truly hope we select a QB with our first pick. Not because he will save us next year but over a couple of years might turn into the person we really need. I still think we need to sign some older NFL QB that has done it before such as the SF QB. Skelton and Lyndley should be cut and they can make their decision on Kolb as to whether he can stay healthy enough to even be a backup. By the way, Bobby Petrino was just hired as the new HC of Western Kentucky. They have a good program. His pay $875 K a year plus incentives. The new Arkansas coach from the U. of Wisconsin has a magnificent record and seems very impressive. He will end up making over $5 mil after all the incentives. I was very surprised to see him accept the job after so much success at Wisconsin. 3 or 4 Rosebowls, A Bcs Bowl. Conference championships, in the top 10 several times in defense in the nation. The fans are excited anyway. Not like the Cards fans.

 

[conraddobler]

Well remember Skelton was a 5th round pick. They hoped to catch lightning in a bottle but they really missed on Kolb. The bad thing was having Kolb and Skindley as your only 3 QB's. one can't stay healthy the other 2 were low draft picks who weren't accurate in college.

Then due to bad OL play you put in an offense that requires accuracy because you have to complete more short passes to move the ball, and you have a recipe for disaster.

I'd say if and when Whiz gets fired it'll be because of his inability to find a QB for sure.

Missing on Kold hurts the worst I agree. I'm just not sure what the pont is of the other two guys, it seems to me someone should of mentioned that if you're going to take a flyer on someone don't bother if they aren't very accurate passers.

They seem to be totally bad fits for our offense as was DA.

 

[vinnymac]

I would draft Tyler Wilson because I have watched all his games for three years. Often in person so he is the one I know most about. He has the size and the arm and most of all he has the intelligence and courage. He is very smart and chose to stay in school and graduate. He is well spoken before an audience and seems to me to have that certain character of a winner. A born leader. There may be better choices but I have not seen them. Recognize I am a homer but I believe he is the real deal for a future NFL star. The kind of guy you want as a neighbor or a son in law with the strength of a grizzly bear who will stand in and take the heat. Arkansas had a bad year this year largely because of he Bobby Petrino incident. He was fired just before the season started and he was the real offensive coordinator. Maybe Wilson might be over looked as a result of this and we might have a shot a him. I truly hope we select a QB with our first pick. Not because he will save us next year but over a couple of years might turn into the person we really need. I still think we need to sign some older NFL QB that has done it before such as the SF QB. Skelton and Lyndley should be cut and they can make their decision on Kolb as to whether he can stay healthy enough to even be a backup. By the way, Bobby Petrino was just hired as the new HC of Western Kentucky. They have a good program. His pay $875 K a year plus incentives. The new Arkansas coach from the U. of Wisconsin has a magnificent record and seems very impressive. He will end up making over $5 mil after all the incentives. I was very surprised to see him accept the job after so much success at Wisconsin. 3 or 4 Rosebowls, A Bcs Bowl. Conference championships, in the top 10 several times in defense in named Jim Greathouse, who they held hostage. Accosted at dawn by a posse, they traded their hostage, Jim Greathouse, for Deputythe nation. The fans are excited anyway. Not like the Cards fans.

I agree with you John. I watched a few games and the razorbacks o-line was horrible. Tyler was running for his life most of the time. Tyler Wilson will make a good QB in NFL.

 

[cardinalsfan]

I agree with you John. I watched a few games and the razorbacks o-line was horrible. Tyler was running for his life most of the time. Tyler Wilson will make a good QB in NFL.

Problem is I think by the time the draft comes around Tyler Wilson will be ahead of Geno Smith. Could come down to whether we like Geno or not.

 

[TruCard]

DO NOT DRAFT A QB unless we have a shot at Geno. Tyler Wilson has potential but I'm not sure about his durability. I would rather wait for Manziel to come out. I'd rather lose out with Kolb and have a shot at Johnny Football than take a QB now and lose out anyway.


STAY AWAY FROM BARKLEY.

 

[clif]

Geno Smith 1st round if available.

I'm on this bandwagon as well.