Whis and putting Matty in the game

[dscher]

It really didnt matter who we had in.. Go ahead and throw boldin in at qb with a 21 pt lead going into the 4th. Whiz knew what was going on and how much clock he could control or he wouldn't have made the move in the first place. But, I guess he really didn't anticipate his d giving up big plays that it completely stifled in the first half. And is it me or does drc just look flat out uninterested this year so far...Love the guy and his potential, but just dont want him getting comfortable.

 

[TJ]

And would have completed 5, if Fitz had held on, which would have put us in a scoring position. And had Becht made the catch the late game drama might not have occurred.

It was not the substitutions on "O" that was the problem, but rather on "D". IMO

But the bottom line is he threw those too high and turned 3rd down conversions to three and outs. We gave Jax an extra 3 or 4 minutes to start a comeback. Like I said earlier, Warner was in rhythm with his receivers. Even if Warner completes a pass and doesnt get the 1st, the clock winds down.

 

[Shane]

People were on here last year screaming for Whis to put Leinart in when we were up big. He did it and now people are still screaming! Buncha stinking women I swear

 

[conraddobler]

I wouldn't have done it until sometime in the 4th quarter, it was more psychological than anything, about a drive early.

I have no problem just having Matt hand it off and stuff to end the game so Warner dosen't get hurt but it was a tad early.

Warner had a ridiculous game, given that I apologize for questioning him but no one would of predicted this performance.

 

[Shane]

But the bottom line is he threw those too high and turned 3rd down conversions to three and outs. We gave Jax an extra 3 or 4 minutes to start a comeback. Like I said earlier, Warner was in rhythm with his receivers. Even if Warner completes a pass and doesnt get the 1st, the clock winds down.

No they were high but NOT TO HIGH. Those both should have been caught.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

But the bottom line is he threw those too high and turned 3rd down conversions to three and outs. We gave Jax an extra 3 or 4 minutes to start a comeback. Like I said earlier, Warner was in rhythm with his receivers. Even if Warner completes a pass and doesnt get the 1st, the clock winds down.

No... the bottom line is he hit them in the hands and they dropped them.

 

[phillycard]

I'm furious with the move. I still am. This is not college! This is the NFL, and you put 50 up on a team if you have to. We all know the history of the Arizona Cardinals coasting when they think they have a lead. That young buck catches that touchdown in the 4th and we might be looking at an epic fail of legendary proportions. Kurt is your damn starter for a reason! Mop up is 4th quarter with 5 minutes left. Don't ever do that again Whis. Ever.

 

[PACardsFan]

And would have completed 5, if Fitz had held on, which would have put us in a scoring position. And had Becht made the catch the late game drama might not have occurred.

It was not the substitutions on "O" that was the problem, but rather on "D". IMO

You nailed it! My God, we were up 31-3 with about a minute to go in the 3rd. If Fitz comes down with a catch he routinely makes, then we score at least 38 pts, maybe more. Our prevent D, like any prevent - SUCKS!!!! Any time we get a substantial lead, our coaching staff's testicles shrink. Our D needs to go full throttle 100% of the time regardless of the score. Did the 85 Bears or any of the great Ravens D's ever play a prevent - NO. Did anyone watch the Jets D today? Keep the pressure on & step on their throats. We will never win a SB with the philosophy employed today. Bt it had nothing to do with Leinart coming into the game!

 

[Rats]

The only problem I had with it is I think it was done too early. The message was sent to the team that the game was over & most the players on defense definately played that way until the pick.

This is how I see it also. You can not defend the timing as it sent a message to the team that we have this in the bag. Anyone can objectively see this. It was a bad choice by the coach to do it that early. He should have kept momentum until there was no doubt. It would have sent a really bad message had he had to admitted his mistake and put Warner back in. We had not punted until this time and we gave momentum to the Jags. Simple as that. Only bad choice Whis made all day. He does need to bench Levi though.

 

[az1965]

No... the bottom line is he hit them in the hands and they dropped them.

The issue is that putting Lienart signals the team we are in cruise mode now... the drops indicate lack of concentration.

Point is your offense was flowing flawlessly and then you put unnecessary burden on your defense that were started to wear down with that humidity.

 

[TJ]

No... the bottom line is he hit them in the hands and they dropped them.

Your wrong again. They were too high where they had to jump at their apex to grab the ball. There is a less than 50% shot of catching that, even in you're Fitz.

 

[az1965]

People were on here last year screaming for Whis to put Leinart in when we were up big. He did it and now people are still screaming! Buncha stinking women I swear

Not questioning putting Leinart in... just timing of it.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Your wrong again. They were too high where they had to jump at their apex to grab the ball. There is a less than 50% shot of catching that, even in you're Fitz.

You sure it isn't 49 or 51%... and where do I find those stats?

This is the NFL and Fitz routinely catches these balls from Warner.

(Wrong again? It is my opinion and every bit as valid as yours)

 

[dscher]

Seriously?? Keep in a qb that is immobile towards the end of a game with a 21 pt lead going into the 4th? The Jags defense is getting frustrated and looking to take it out on someone... so why chance it with Warner and his sore hip...which im sure is still bothering him. Really, bottom line is, Whis knows exactly what is the best for the team and we dont. Let the guy that took the Cards to the Superbowl just run the team....We can't blow out every team.. And I think its funny how much these fox broadcasters talk about a potential comeback just to keep the ratings. A comeback was truly never possible, which is why Whiz made the switch.

 

[Mitch]

The good news is that the Cardinals still won by 14, Warner set an NFL record for completion percentage, Leinart got some good experience (next time he steps into those throws) and everyone appears healthy, including Levi Brown, who twisted an ankle in the first half.

 

[TJ]

You sure it isn't 49 or 51%... and where do I find those stats?

This is the NFL and Fitz routinely catches these balls from Warner.

(Wrong again? It is my opinion and every bit as valid as yours)

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have your QB hit you in the numbers or try to hit you too tall?

 

[Rats]

I'm furious with the move. I still am. This is not college! This is the NFL, and you put 50 up on a team if you have to. We all know the history of the Arizona Cardinals coasting when they think they have a lead. That young buck catches that touchdown in the 4th and we might be looking at an epic fail of legendary proportions. Kurt is your damn starter for a reason! Mop up is 4th quarter with 5 minutes left. Don't ever do that again Whis. Ever.

I will not go as far as to say I am furious over the move. It ended up not costing us. This time. Learn from it Coach and don't ever do it again. You can not allow any games to be put in jeopardy. He sent a poor message to the team that we do not play 100% for 4 qts. The D didn't after that or the O. He needs to learn from it and not allow things like that to cost the team. Thankfully it didn't today. It was boneheaded.

 

[BW52]

I'm furious with the move. I still am. This is not college! This is the NFL, and you put 50 up on a team if you have to. We all know the history of the Arizona Cardinals coasting when they think they have a lead. That young buck catches that touchdown in the 4th and we might be looking at an epic fail of legendary proportions. Kurt is your damn starter for a reason! Mop up is 4th quarter with 5 minutes left. Don't ever do that again Whis. Ever.

So what if Whiz leaves Warner in and he gets injured in a 3 TD game.All the hysterical rantings would never stop.Like Shane said earlier-Bunch of whiny ass babies.

 

[moklerman]

The one to Fitz was catchable but only because he's Fitz. The problem with that throw is that there was no purpose in throwing it high. Fitz was wide open. Leinart was high all day for some reason. Adrenaline?

 

[az jam]

The good news is that the Cardinals still won by 14, Warner set an NFL record for completion percentage, Leinart got some good experience (next time he steps into those throws) and everyone appears healthy, including Levi Brown, who twisted an ankle in the first half.

Totally agree with you. But it sure made me nervous when the Jags started to chip away at our lead.

 

[dscher]

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have your QB hit you in the numbers or try to hit you too tall?

You saw Fitz getting pissed that he didnt make the catch at the end of that play...but sorry, im sure even Fitz would tell you that he should have made it.. So should Becht.

 

[Buckybird]

I will not go as far as to say I am furious over the move. It ended up not costing us. This time. Learn from it Coach and don't ever do it again. You can not allow any games to be put in jeopardy. He sent a poor message to the team that we do not play 100% for 4 qts. The D didn't after that or the O. He needs to learn from it and not allow things like that to cost the team. Thankfully it didn't today. It was boneheaded.

and I bet Wiz will admit it at a later date.

 

[BW52]

So what if Whiz leaves Warner in and he gets injured in a 3 TD game.All the hysterical rantings would never stop.Like Shane said earlier-Bunch of whiny ass babies.

Sorry Shane didn`t say "whiny ass babies"........i said that,not Shane
Shane used another description.Don`t want Shane catching hell for no reason.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Let me ask you this. Would you rather have your QB hit you in the numbers or try to hit you too tall?

Yes, I'd prefer that every ball be a perfectly thrown spiral that hits me in stride, but if those are the only balls I can catch then I've got no business in the NFL.

Fitz has a very large radius and Matt's throw was in it; same case for Becht.

 

[TJ]

You saw Fitz getting pissed that he didnt make the catch at the end of that play...but sorry, im sure even Fitz would tell you that he should have made it.. So should Becht.

Fitz is a competitor like that and I expect him to get upset. And he is too mature to blame his QB. Hell, he would have blamed himself if it were 20 feet in the air.