Whis still needs to figure it out

[Stout]

Let me begin by saying that I love having Coach Whis and that he has done great things for both this team and this organization. He has brought us stability and legitimacy. Yes, things can still get bad, but since when does a terrible game like today still see us with a winning record?

That said, he is still sadly deficient in some crucial areas of coaching. The first one is clear--he needs to realize that he cannot call the plays as the HC. Losing Haley isn't the problem so much as having Whis calling the plays is. The more glaring problem, though, is that he cannot keep this team focused. He managed to do that in the playoffs last year, and for that I am infinitely greatful. The problem is that none of those games were trap games; they were all do-or-die. This team will always seem to show up in obvious 'must-win' games, but will never seem to show up otherwise.

We can talk all we want about players not making plays, but it was clear from the get-go that this team was not prepared to put in the effort and intensity in order to win or even compete. And, when this becomes a trend as it has with us, the finger points one way--back to the head coach. He MUST learn how to motivate this team in trap games and games where momentum has to be maintained. I love him to death for what he's done for us, but until Whis figures this out, he will not rise above mediocrity.

 

[lauraw]

Is he smart enough to figure this out on his own, stout? I say no way will this cross his own mind unless brought up between his eyes..Nominations?

 

[Buckybird]

Is he smart enough to figure this out on his own, stout? I say no way will this cross his own mind unless brought up between his eyes..Nominations?

I think if Wiz had Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Walsh, LeBeau, Bellicheat & Parcells on this coaching staff this team would still be up & down like a roller coaster. These players dont have the heart or will to be great. Its gonna take some more young talent to put this team & its mental Jekyll & Hyde personality behind it while shipping out some of the vets.

 

[NeverSayDieFan]

STOUT, I hear ya'...

I think Whiz' has brought ALOT to this organization. I am VERY COMFORTABLE with him being the "face" of our franchise. The thing that frustrates me is the reluctance to "address" some of the obvious problems. 1./ There's NEVER HELP for GANDY when he faces an elite speed-rusher. 2./ THROW it to FITZ' ANYWAY anyway and let him just go up and get it. 3/ SIT "Q" for 3 weeks so his ankle can have a chance to heal. 4./ Give "Beanie" MORE touches.

WE see these "fixable" problems. WHY don't they?? GO CARDS! PENN STATE NOTE: How MANY you gonna' BEAT OHIO STATE by?? I hope you CRUSH 'EM!!!!!!!!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I think if Wiz had Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Walsh, LeBeau, Bellicheat & Parcells on this coaching staff this team would still be up & down like a roller coaster. These players dont have the heart or will to be great. Its gonna take some more young talent to put this team & its mental Jekyll & Hyde personality behind it while shipping out some of the vets.

The problem is leadership within the players. Right now it is a.....

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[splitsecond]

I think if Wiz had Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Walsh, LeBeau, Bellicheat & Parcells on this coaching staff this team would still be up & down like a roller coaster. These players dont have the heart or will to be great. Its gonna take some more young talent to put this team & its mental Jekyll & Hyde personality behind it while shipping out some of the vets.

just curious, who do you think is bringing the heart right now, and who do you think lacks it and needs to go?

 

[Perfectionist]

Stout, I agree with you 100%, but there is now way we bring in an offensive cooridnator at this point in the season. I am afraid our season this year is going to be just like last year. But it will be a lot harder advancing in the playoffs.

 

[Doug]

I don't think Todd Haley will EVER be even a good head coach but he was a pretty to VERY GOOD Offensive coordinator and thats where I hope he goes back to doing once the dream in Kansas City has been thouroughly crushed.Maybe Whiz takes him back.

Even Todd might have trouble drawing up plays with two cripples trying to play his schemes.We've got to sit both Boldin and Breaston in my opinion.Both are hurting the team.

Did you see just what one pass play to Sean Morey could do? If we were'nt holding on the play?The lil' dude has twice as much speed as Boldin at this point and Breaston needs to just sit.Lets get someone else to return punts.

I have'nt a clue who we get to return punts.I wish DRC could do it but he'd drop the dang thing. I'm even thinking we need Hightower to return punts till Breaston has had some major time off.He has'nt practiced one full day this year.

The crossing routes are not clearing quick enough and the rush is in on Warner before our picks or rubs work & we have to dump it off.We need just to screen the ball more.Use the bubble screen more with some WR's that want to block.

Safer passes like that that can move the ball downfield.We did it all last season.I wish Beanie would open his eyes like he did in college.His vision is really lacking but he has the speed and the gears to do anything once he finds his way through a very small hole.What a shame.

Did'nt see Wright in the game.If we don't use him then lets activate someone else that can play and help the team.I know he's there in case someone gets hurt.Thats what someone will say.I really like the pick of the Howler right now.He is showing how really bad he wants to play in the NFL.

We NEVER attack the seams anymore with the tightend.Thats the saints whole game.Attacking the inside and outside seam routes.With pin point accuracy From the numbers inside to the hash.I think Patrick would be great for some of these passes.We're did'nt use Kreider once that I saw yesterday to help on a run play.He can't catch so why activate him?

First and foremost for yesterday the defense as a unit did'nt show up and they gave away their pride and joy as in being the leagues run stopping unit.The may have turned the giants into this years panthers after we beat them but that won't help us in January.

What did Warner do after his 5 or 6 pick game vs the Jets last year? I'm hoping for a major bounce back from the team and if they want to be embarrassed again then let them take the same attitude into the game next week against a hungry bears team coming into the teeth of its schedule.

 

[Buckybird]

just curious, who do you think is bringing the heart right now, and who do you think lacks it and needs to go?

This is for the whole overall season

Heart-offensively-Breaston, Q, Fitz, THT, Beanie, Wells, Sendlein, Deuce
defensively-Calais, Dockett, Haggans, Hayes, Rolle, McFadden, DRC
special teams-Rackers, Graham, LSH, Adams, Davis, Highsmith

Who lacks it & needs to go:
Berry & Chike-both these guys bring nothing to this team, they are done. Both were manhandled on the cutback runs yesterday.

Warner-I like the guy when he's on, but I'm tired of seeing the captain of the offense having the "pissed off defeated look" when things aren't going well. That look has a trickle down effect on the offense.

Morey-why is this guy so highly touted for his special team duties? He hardly ever makes a tackle & takes up a much needed roster spot for an extra WR on game days. He does as little as any FA off the street.

Dansby-I'm the biggest Dansby supporter there is, but he has had 1 good game this year. He will greatly be missed in pass coverage, but he's not worth the big $$$ he is seeking.

Gandy & Levi-need I say more?

Honorable mention
AW-I luv what this guy means to the team & organization but like Dansby he's played 1 good game this year. Part of the problem is how he has been used. Being 1 of the leaders you would expect a bigger impact from #24 & I looked for him to get in someones grill yesterday on the sideline to wake their asses up. Wilson is still a liability in coverage & sometimes wish we would have spent his money on Rolle & coverted him to SS.

Q-great heart but the injuries never end. It's his style & that OK, but paying $7-8 mil for a guy whos going to miss 3-4 games every year isnt worth the risk. We need to add some speed at the WR spot. Thx for your services #81

 

[conraddobler]

I'm not sure it's Whis that much at all.

They are playing Fitz differently, Q is hurting and Warner isn't a novelty in the league again.

Teams adapt, and I think some good teams have some good ideas on how to play us and other teams don't, and when you combine that with natural good days and bad days we have you get a team that either shows up or falls flat on it's face.

 

[Buckybird]

I'm not sure it's Whis that much at all.

They are playing Fitz differently, Q is hurting and Warner isn't a novelty in the league again.

Teams adapt, and I think some good teams have some good ideas on how to play us and other teams don't, and when you combine that with natural good days and bad days we have you get a team that either shows up or falls flat on it's face.

Teams are playing the offense as a whole differantly. Ignore the run because they know what Warner likes to do...chunk it. He always has & always will.