Whiz blames players and defense again not Miller and self.

[THESMEL]

Whiz is a tool, I tried to lay off and quiet down and give him a chance this offseason but He is back to 3 RB carries in a horrible first half. Whiz has remained out of touch with reality, His actions are a tragedy and if He does not have a clue it is even worse!

3 RB carries in the first half with a Stud RB that ends up with a 6.6 average, again only only 14 freakin carries again! and again and again. leads to a poor passing performance! Like 11 carries in the 2nd half is spectacular or something?

My God Our defense is designed to sprint on a blitz every down, buit on burst and get off the field, but no Our offense is built on burst and get off the field too!

Luckily we balanced the time of possesion up to 2:1 in the 2nd half and balanced out the total plays to 48 to 79! Yea it all the defense, penalty fault had nothing to do with ignorant play calling by ignorant OC and HC.

We had the lead with 5 minutes left, had a 3 play 57 second drive! Our defensed was gassed by the end of the 1st 1/4/. Beanie Wells had 14 carries and Taylor had 1! woo hoo. You stupid tool Whisenhunt. It is your fault.




http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15608175/painful-penalties-ground-cardinals
--Coach Ken Whisenhunt isn't happy with the defensive performance. After week one, he said the team had a "comedy of errors" in the secondary. After the Redskins loss, Whisenhunt was asked about the
defensive performance in the final minutes of games. "When did we play good defense the whole day, as opposed to late in the game? That's an area we've got to improve. Look at how the whole day went, we didn't slow them down. That's not good enough. That's something we've got to improve on."


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15607861/mistakes-blamed-for-arizonas-slim-loss-at-skins
We made a number of good plays defensively," Whisenhunt said. "When we're on the same page, and guys are understanding what we're doing, we're a pretty good defense. But when we make our bad plays, they're really bad. We're dropping coverage, we're not hitting the right gaps, we're not stepping the right way with blitzes. All of those are things we've got to get cleaned up. It's a function of not having been in the scheme for too long."

 

[tnmike]

2 games into the season and somebody already has a brain hemmorrhoid. Somebody call a doctor.

 

[THESMEL]

Dr this

we have passed our defense into exhastion, Our oline has not faced a defense who thought we might run for years? 64.8 percentage pass since 2008.

WE need a hero to win a game, We can't just play fundementally sound and beat an equal or lees talented team. We can but Whiz chooses not to.

14 carries for Beanie Wells is a crime, has been 3 in the first half and Miller should have benched himself.

2 games into the season and somebody already has a brain hemmorrhoid. Somebody call a doctor.

 

[conraddobler]

I agree we should run more, there's not one other single thing you could do which would fix more stuff than simply running the ball more.

It slows the pass rush down, rests your defense, keeps you in manageable down and distance situations and generally helps the team more than any other single thing you can do.

If it's true we only managed three rushing attempts in the first half that's stupid.

Oh and when Beanie got 3yards on that 57 second drive on first down, that's not failure, run it again, heck run it three times there, if you get two first downs like that you are going to more than likely win the game.

I think there was a little over 5 minutes left then, if you run and make a first down in three downs, then do it again, then that gives you three more tries, that's 9 plays all runs.

That's about 5.25 minutes of clock time right there, minus time outs and the two minute warning.

At the very least you'd run them out of time outs and leave them with under two minutes to go, three first downs running the ball and you win the game.

You dont' abandon the run just because you only got three yards there, right there as I pointed out is when your running game can win the game, JUST FREAKING AT LEAST TRY THAT.

 

[BigRedRage]

Smel thinks we should run when we are down by 14 pts

 

[slanidrac16]

we have passed our defense into exhastion, Our oline has not faced a defense who thought we might run for years? 64.8 percentage pass since 2008.

WE need a hero to win a game, We can't just play fundementally sound and beat an equal or lees talented team. We can but Whiz chooses not to.

14 carries for Beanie Wells is a crime, has been 3 in the first half and Miller should have benched himself.

Do you think the fact the Redskins had the ball for almost the entire 1st half had anything to do with the limited amount of carries (and plays run)?

The defense needs to get at least one or two 3 and outs during a game. I said before the season started we were going to be a high risk high reward type of defense. We simply do not have the personel on this team to line up and play basic defense. We can't rush the passer without blitzing. We can't seem to stop the run without blitzing and when we guess wrong, there goes another 20 yard run.
I think (with all due respect) you need to step back and take a deep breath. We are a middle of the pack team that we all hope can sneak into a playoff spot. We overcame some adversity in game one to win and we damn near won a game on the east coast. It hurts to lose a game like we did Sunday, but if Stuckey holds on to the ball Beanie would have gotten some more carries and we may have drove down the field to win.

This is not 2008 anymore. We will not dominate teams especially in their house. We cannot overcome turnovers , at least not at this point of the season. I have hope that the offense will continue to improve.

Wish I could say the same for the defense.

 

[Shane]

I like what whiz said about the D.

Thesmel is worried about players having feelings hurt... I say bunk.

 

[conraddobler]

Smel thinks we should run when we are down by 14 pts

You should run anytime it works unless you're down by 14 points in the 4th quarter.

Being down by 14 in the first half is no reason to panic about anything, in fact if NFL history is any guide the teams that panic and start passing fall into the same trap that teams rarely get out of, it's the teams that DON'T panic there out of all types of teams that get into that situation that have the best odds of getting out of it IMO.

It's not a good idea to ever go down by 14 but if your run game is working then you have a great chance to dig out of it given time.

 

[conraddobler]

I like what whiz said about the D.

Thesmel is worried about players having feelings hurt... I say bunk.

I'm not sure I care about the players feelings either but I do care about dumb game management.

The 57 second drive in the 4th quarter with a 1 point lead was another example of stupid game managment.

I'm sure Whiz is correct, the players are new to the scheme and making crazy mistakes.

I'm not going to comment on his player tactics, cause I don't really care, his game management though IMO is highly suspect.

Oh and BTW, if you are a coach, and notice your defense is sucking and you notice your RB is getting 6.6 YPC, would it not occur to you to lean into that advantage to avoid putting your crazy mistake sieve defense back out on the field?

Just a thought.

 

[blindseyed]

I like what whiz said about the D.

Thesmel is worried about players having feelings hurt... I say bunk.

I'm just impressed you understood anything he posted lol

 

[desertdawg]

Team started rolling when we started running, can't deny that. It opened up the passing game some too. Passing/rushing is dead last on my list of worries right now, O-line is all I'm really worried about on that side of the ball. The successful shotgun handoffs (that I have roasted Whiz for repeatedly) alone blew my friggin mind.
If this defense gets it together (I think it will improve game by game) wegotta shot at the division.

 

[Linderbee]

I'm not sure I care about the players feelings either but I do care about dumb game management.

The 57 second drive in the 4th quarter with a 1 point lead was another example of stupid game managment.

I'm sure Whiz is correct, the players are new to the scheme and making crazy mistakes.

I'm not going to comment on his player tactics, cause I don't really care, his game management though IMO is highly suspect.

Oh and BTW, if you are a coach, and notice your defense is sucking and you notice your RB is getting 6.6 YPC, would it not occur to you to lean into that advantage to avoid putting your crazy mistake sieve defense back out on the field?

Just a thought.

QFT. Every word.

I'm with Conrad & THESMEL on this one. If your defense is stinking up the joint, do everything to avoid having them on the field.

RUN THE DAMN BALL.

 

[Matt L]

I like what whiz said about the D.

Thesmel is worried about players having feelings hurt... I say bunk.

I am not worried about the player's feelings or their self esteem.

I do think that both the head coach and the defensive coordinator should take the responsibility for defense's shortcomings.

I also think that two games in is probably to early to freak out, however, it may be time to panic if we are still seeing (and I am thinking we will) Adrian Wilson and Patrick Petersen looking confused who should have deep coverage around the 8th or 9th game.

 

[thephoenixson28]

I agree with whiz.

 

[DoTheDew]

We should have run more, but the D still holds the brunt of the blame. They were getting gashed from the get-go. Fatigue is not an excuse for the long drives in the 1st quarter.

 

[Bert]

Whiz is a tool, I tried to lay off and quiet down and give him a chance this offseason but He is back to 3 RB carries in a horrible first half. Whiz has remained out of touch with reality, His actions are a tragedy and if He does not have a clue it is even worse!

3 RB carries in the first half with a Stud RB that ends up with a 6.6 average, again only only 14 freakin carries again! and again and again. leads to a poor passing performance! Like 11 carries in the 2nd half is spectacular or something?

My God Our defense is designed to sprint on a blitz every down, buit on burst and get off the field, but no Our offense is built on burst and get off the field too!

Luckily we balanced the time of possesion up to 2:1 in the 2nd half and balanced out the total plays to 48 to 79! Yea it all the defense, penalty fault had nothing to do with ignorant play calling by ignorant OC and HC.

We had the lead with 5 minutes left, had a 3 play 57 second drive! Our defensed was gassed by the end of the 1st 1/4/. Beanie Wells had 14 carries and Taylor had 1! woo hoo. You stupid tool Whisenhunt. It is your fault.




http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15608175/painful-penalties-ground-cardinals
--Coach Ken Whisenhunt isn't happy with the defensive performance. After week one, he said the team had a "comedy of errors" in the secondary. After the Redskins loss, Whisenhunt was asked about the
defensive performance in the final minutes of games. "When did we play good defense the whole day, as opposed to late in the game? That's an area we've got to improve. Look at how the whole day went, we didn't slow them down. That's not good enough. That's something we've got to improve on."


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15607861/mistakes-blamed-for-arizonas-slim-loss-at-skins
We made a number of good plays defensively," Whisenhunt said. "When we're on the same page, and guys are understanding what we're doing, we're a pretty good defense. But when we make our bad plays, they're really bad. We're dropping coverage, we're not hitting the right gaps, we're not stepping the right way with blitzes. All of those are things we've got to get cleaned up. It's a function of not having been in the scheme for too long."

Kevin Kolb on Bickley and MJ today:

"Just to take the pressure off the coaches a little here, we had more runs called in the first half. I have the power to pass in those situations and I chose to pass."

So once again Smel, you overreacted and you're wrong.

I was very impressed that Kolb took responsibility. It was a great interview, very honest.

 

[Duckjake]

Kevin Kolb on Bickley and MJ today:

"Just to take the pressure off the coaches a little here, we had more runs called in the first half. I talked to Kurt Warner and he said to ignore Whiz and pass in those situations and so I chose to pass."

So once again Smel, you overreacted and you're wrong.

I was very impressed that Kolb took responsibility. It was a great interview, very honest.

Fixed it.

 

[Bert]

Fixed it.

lol

 

[JeffGollin]

Pardon the oversimplification but...

Just two points more and we're undefeated and not having this conversation.

Chill.

 

[Mulli]

Go Bert!!

 

[Duckjake]

Just two points more and we're undefeated and not having this conversation.

Chill.

Two more yards and we could be 0-2.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Smel thinks we should run when we are down by 14 pts

They were running the ball extremely effective in the 2nd half and moving the chains. I'd have to agree with Smel on that one.

 

[Buckybird]

Two more yards and we could be 0-2.

If Ralph Brown was 3" taller we would've been SB 43 Champs

 

[THESMEL]

thanks

I have been fishing, thanks I haven't seen Kolb or other news since the game and then writing this, I wish I was wrong but through Haley, Whiz and Now Miller at PGC, OC, Play caller

and Tim R, Tim H, Kurt, Leinart, DA, Hall, Skelton, Bartel and now Kolb at QB, Whiz's Cardinals have passed like our hair is on fire rather behind or a head by 3 scores in the playoffs!

I was angry the way he threw all the players under the bus hard, at the end of last year. Not talking an iota of responsibility or his inexperienced YES MAN staff that HE hired.

I had hope when He trashed his PGC, RGC experiment and gave up the playcalling to Mike Freakin Miller, with out even interviewing an OC with quality NFL resume. DC either, and who else is hiring Chris Miller as a QB coach after last year!

Beanie has been brow beat into not saying nuthin like He did last year before ther Leinart Message was sent loud and clear. To a bunch quiet core players, That didn't want to weigh in on that MESS!

If you think a winning coach like Tomlin, parcells, coughlin or any freakin HC worth their salt WOULD ALLOW BEANIE WELLS to have 14 carries in a game, Well I perojectile vomit on that thought, any more than they wouyld start THT over Edge or The Bean. It is embarrasing to support Whiz's stupidity, I know I've tried! and you have tooo!

It aint changing like we hoped, The problem is between Whiz's ears and he can hire another 51 new players this offseason, cut Kolb, release Beanie, and blame players for penalties and every unit across the team having near worse stats in the NFL, again.

It won't matter as long as it is a fundementally scewed up football team attacking on offense as fast as possible and attacking on defense 40 minutes a game!

We have to get lucky to win, We were not 14 behind, like somebody excused, that is like 1/2 of the last 48 games we screwed up, were 2 scores ahead with 11 minutes left, Our defense was blitzing for over 30 minutes as fast as possible. They were spent!

Our defense was in the worse position possible, just like our oline, 1ST and play action pass game, Run game. You name it. Cause of the HC!

Any bad coach could have won Sunday. Horton Needs to get in Whiz's face and not let him and Kolb do that to HORTON's DEFENSE! Like Dick Lebeu would allow that crap! EVER

Just like Beanie earning a 3 score lead in th first 1/4 against the Packers in an 09 playoff win. Beanie got 3 freakin carries in the blow out loss the next week against the Saints! Kurts gone, We have scrub coaches beyond Grimm and Spenser, It is on Whisenhunt.

Kevin Kolb on Bickley and MJ today:

"Just to take the pressure off the coaches a little here, we had more runs called in the first half. I have the power to pass in those situations and I chose to pass."

So once again Smel, you overreacted and you're wrong.

I was very impressed that Kolb took responsibility. It was a great interview, very honest.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think we'll see Wells average 15-20 carries a game tops. There really is no backup and Whiz knows that he has to do his best to make Chris last the entire year. You may see an occasional game with 25 carries but I don't think you can run him 350-400 times a year without him wearing down or getting injured. I'll bet if Willams was healthy we'd be seing more runs. 275-300 carries would be the target I'm looking for.