Whiz blames players and defense again not Miller and self.

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The point is that it is very hard to have a long sustained drive without running the ball.

Well that probably depends a lot on the offensive personnel, defensive personnel, alignment, and tendencies, and plenty of other factors. It's probably equally difficult to have a long sustained drive without passing the ball. But i'm only questioning the commonly-held belief that running plays give the defense more rest than passing plays.

Passing drives, when successful, are generally much shorter in duration than a combination of passes and runs. The fact that the clock keeps running, and runs for a longer period of time, is what lets the defense stay off the field for a longer time.

Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Whether the game clock is running or not, i can't think of any reason for the actual time between plays to be any less after a passing play than after a run. (Unless, of course, a team is trying to hurry up and score in a hurry while conserving the game clock.)

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Everyone is going to a passing offense so now is the time to draft two psychopathic guards who can run block all day long and build a running team.

The NFL is like that but the idea that running isn't that important, while cute and maybe chic now, is stupid.

RUN THE DAMN BALL!
 

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Everyone is going to a passing offense so now is the time to draft two psychopathic guards who can run block all day long and build a running team.

The NFL is like that but the idea that running isn't that important, while cute and maybe chic now, is stupid.

RUN THE DAMN BALL!
1. Running is important.

2. Basing run/pass tendencies on two games (after a truncated preseason which may have left defenses more vulnerable to pass plays due to lack of reps) may be a bit premature.

3. The Cardinals, plain and simple, are not reliable enough yet in the run game for the coaches to arbitrarily make running plays a bigger part of the offense regardless of what opposing offenses give us. (We have to tailor our offense more to what the defense gives us than we might if we were 100% fail-safe at pounding the rock).
 

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3. The Cardinals, plain and simple, are not reliable enough yet in the run game for the coaches to arbitrarily make running plays a bigger part of the offense regardless of what opposing offenses give us. (We have to tailor our offense more to what the defense gives us than we might if we were 100% fail-safe at pounding the rock).[/COLOR]

what is this based on? our run blocking is MUCH more reliable than our pass blocking at this point. Our longest most sustained drives of the season both were completely run heavy... the first drive against Carolina and the second half against Washington. Almost every other touchdown drive was a 50+ yard 2 play strike.

The idea that our over 5 ypc average and ability to gouge defenders when we actually set our mind to run the ball isn't reliable when Kolb has to run for his life on almost every passing down doesn't jive with what I'm seeing on the field.
 

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what is this based on? our run blocking is MUCH more reliable than our pass blocking at this point. Our longest most sustained drives of the season both were completely run heavy... the first drive against Carolina and the second half against Washington. Almost every other touchdown drive was a 50+ yard 2 play strike.

The idea that our over 5 ypc average and ability to gouge defenders when we actually set our mind to run the ball isn't reliable when Kolb has to run for his life on almost every passing down doesn't jive with what I'm seeing on the field.

Whoa!

Quick strike capability coupled with the ability to run the football effectively on sustained drives. That's an offense that could make me very happy. Put 8 in the box we'll go 60 over the top. Back off and we'll pound the rock for 5 yards a pop. And the more we do it the better we get at it and the harder it becomes to defend.
 
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Looks to me that fantasy has been way more dependable and accurate news than paid east coast media former players.

Hey guys Whiz is dependable. Mike Miller PGC or OC , Haley OC, or who was the QB coach before Chris Miller? any how the Cardinals will not use the run game as a weapon, it is a decoy, soon as they get enough of a run game to justify 3 passes in a row they will, again and again and again.

We need those strike out X's paper signs in baseball, every pass incompletion hang one over the stands,



Arizona QB Kevin Kolb will get his first taste of the NFC West in Week 3 when the Cardinals face the Seahawks. Kolb has thrown for 560 yards through two weeks and four touchdowns. The new quarterback in Arizona has yet to face a division foe, and gets the Seahawks, a team that has allowed 210.5 passing yards per game and just one passing touchdown.
(Updated 09/22/2011).
Fantasy Analysis
The Cardinals may pass more in Week 3, depending on the health of RB Beanie Wells. Kolb and the Cards score quick, but will have to learn how to put together substantial drives if they want to keep the team healthy on both sides of the ball. While he has a nice matchup this week, Kolb is still more of a No. 2 Fantasy QB option for Week 3.


The Fantasy Bean

After Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt said Friday that RB Beanie Wells would be a game-time decision for Week 3 at Seattle, the running back expressed optimism that he'll be ready to roll. He's officially listed as questionable after doing only a few things at practice Friday. Wells tweaked his hamstring Thursday and couldn't finish practice but said he is confident he will play Sunday. "It's doing well," Wells told the official team website. "It got a little tight yesterday so we decided to let it calm down a little bit. ... I don’t think I’ll be limited at all if I play Sunday."
(Updated 09/23/2011).
Fantasy Analysis
If Wells plays, he'll have a pretty good matchup against a Seahawks run defense that gave up two rushing touchdowns and over 100 rush yards to the Steelers last week. However, the matchup is tempered by Wells' hamstring injury, which could hold him back. If Wells is out, expect a messy RB situation between Chester Taylor, LaRod Stephens-Howling (he's a game-time decision too) and Alfonso Smith. If you own Wells it might pay off to pick up Taylor off waivers as an emergency replacement in case Wells doesn't play. We'll be among the first to let you know Wells' status on Sunday around 2:30 p.m. ET in this space on CBSSports.com.
 
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