Who do you want to acquire at PF

[ASUCHRIS]

i love our PF list. this is what i read when i read that list:

"Power Forwards - Small Forward, Outside shooting/no defense Center, Undersized Power Forward, 2nd round pick, last pick in the draft"

Stockpiling assets ala Isaiah! Hopefully we can turn 3 of these nickels into a quarter.

 

[PhxGametime]

Jordan Hill, Jason Thompson, Darrell Arthur, J.J Hickson, or Brandon Bass.


Andris Biedrins, Andrei Kirilenko, or Josh Smith; as high-priced options.

 

[JCSunsfan]

As I watch the video of Collins and Lawal, to me getting another pf would be the worst thing we could do. I do believe Collins will surprise. He has a massive frame and loves contact. He plays with an ease and those long arms surprise. Yeah, they might be busts, probably will be, but I would still rather watch them than a player that we know is a ghost of his former self and will never provide any hope for the future (like KT).

 

[Yuma]

As I watch the video of Collins and Lawal, to me getting another pf would be the worst thing we could do. I do believe Collins will surprise. He has a massive frame and loves contact. He plays with an ease and those long arms surprise. Yeah, they might be busts, probably will be, but I would still rather watch them than a player that we know is a ghost of his former self and will never provide any hope for the future (like KT).

Me too! We haven't had enough time to develop young players with all the guys on our roster last year. At some point you have to give minutes to young guys so they can develop. This may just be the year for that. I know this isn't popular, but I don't want to saddle our team with a big contract just because people think we need a PF. Marion was a PF in a SF body and as time showed, he was much better at PF than SF.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Me too! We haven't had enough time to develop young players with all the guys on our roster last year. At some point you have to give minutes to young guys so they can develop. This may just be the year for that. I know this isn't popular, but I don't want to saddle our team with a big contract just because people think we need a PF. Marion was a PF in a SF body and as time showed, he was much better at PF than SF.

Take a look at these. Most have probably seen them before.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/draft/2010/06/20/20100619_draft_collins.nba/

http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/31515618/draft-preview-dwayne-collins.htm


Notice the advantage of long arms over simple height in the rebound at the :25 mark of this vid.

http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/29186540/highlights-virginia-miami.htm

 

[Sunburn]

Uh no...

Centers - Robin Lopez ...

Power Forwards - Turkoglu, Frye, Warrick, Lawal, Clark, Collins

Small Forwards - Hill, Dudley, Childress, Clark, Turkoglu, Richardson

The PF's you have listed are either natural 3's or not starter quality. To round out the starting line-up, using the assets you've just mentioned, who would you like to see brought in at the starting 4 position?

 

[Irish]

I guess we will never agree until we've decided where the Suns expect to finsh.

During the Regular Season, the Suns should do pretty well. Their offense should ovewhelm most lottery teams and "team rebounding" and team defense should be enough to get them into the top4 or 5 in the Western Conference rankings. But IMHO this looks like a team that will get bumped in the first round. So unless we can magically get a whole new set of referees, I'm less optimiistic than in 2004-05 when at least Marion could rebound.

If you accept that this is going to be a trowaway year, then that's fine and let's play the rookies a lot.l But don't kid yourself, this is not a deam designed for the playoffs.

 

[BC867]

But don't kid yourself, this is not a team designed for the playoffs.

Two NBA finals in 42 years of existence -- the first being a Cinderella year.

I believe the Suns will reach the playoffs by picking up a PF, if Lopez stays healthy.

But beyond that, it is what it is and has always been.

And each year, Lucy pulls the football away and Charlie Brown winds up flat on his back.

And each year, we hope that it will be different next year.

 

[Mainstreet]

Two NBA finals in 42 years of existence -- the first being a Cinderella year.

I believe the Suns will reach the playoffs by picking up a PF, if Lopez stays healthy.

But beyond that, it is what it is and has always been.

And each year, Lucy pulls the football away and Charlie Brown winds up flat on his back.

And each year, we hope that it will be different next year.

Are you going to be Charlie Brown?

Nevermind, I know your stance. It's just that good bigs are hard to get.

I didn't even think the Suns would make the playoffs last season with their lack of bigs and this was with Amare. If the Suns are highly competitive during the season, maybe they move JRich at the trading deadline for a big to solidify their frontline.

 

[slinslin]

The PF's you have listed are either natural 3's or not starter quality. To round out the starting line-up, using the assets you've just mentioned, who would you like to see brought in at the starting 4 position?

Whether you like it or not we won't bring in any more PFs. We have 6 players that by Suns definition are power forwards or at least can play that position.

We will only bring in another player at center. Even if it is Kurt Thomas who really isn't a center that's still the position he will be brought in for.

We don't pay Hedo 10M$ per year to sit on the bench. Nash, JRich, Hill, Hedo and Robin are locked in as starters.

 

[Sunburn]

Whether you like it or not we won't bring in any more PFs. We have 6 players that by Suns definition are power forwards or at least can play that position.

We will only bring in another player at center. Even if it is Kurt Thomas who really isn't a center that's still the position he will be brought in for.

We don't pay Hedo 10M$ per year to sit on the bench. Nash, JRich, Hill, Hedo and Robin are locked in as starters.

You could be right. But we have the assets. Who would you like brought in? Who do you think would best complete this roster?

 

[overseascardfan]

Whether you like it or not we won't bring in any more PFs. We have 6 players that by Suns definition are power forwards or at least can play that position.

We will only bring in another player at center. Even if it is Kurt Thomas who really isn't a center that's still the position he will be brought in for.

We don't pay Hedo 10M$ per year to sit on the bench. Nash, JRich, Hill, Hedo and Robin are locked in as starters.

Unless we trade Jason Richardson for a PF then everyone shifts down. But honestly I think Sarver goes into the season with this team and will determine if he feels we have a shot at a high seed to trade Richardson for a PF if we need one. If we aren't in the playoff hunt he probably just holds on to Richardson and sheds/collects $12M when Richardson leaves and drafts a PF with our lottery pick.

 

[elindholm]

If we aren't in the playoff hunt he probably just holds on to Richardson and sheds/collects $12M when Richardson leaves and drafts a PF with our lottery pick.

Which lottery pick is that? Barring major injury problems, the Suns will be in the playoffs.

 

[Bufalay]

Which lottery pick is that? Barring major injury problems, the Suns will be in the playoffs.

The lottery pick that they will have if they aren't in the playoff hunt.

 

[elindholm]

The lottery pick that they will have if they aren't in the playoff hunt.

Whoops, that was careless of me, sorry.

 

[mojorizen7]

There's no way this team misses the playoffs IMO.
Barring catastrophic injuries of course.
This is a roster DESIGNED to win 50 regular season games and host a playoff series.

 

[cly2tw]

There's no way this team misses the playoffs IMO.
Barring catastrophic injuries of course.
This a roster DESIGNED to win 50 regular season games and host a playoff series.

Nash is getting old. He broke down last year already, less than 8 weeks into the season. Dragic by all standards is still not a starter quality yet. We are now a boundary playoff team without any potential for more. 44-48 wins and hope that's good enough for a playoff berth.

 

[mojorizen7]

Nash is getting old. He broke down last year already, less than 8 weeks into the season. Dragic by all standards is still not a starter quality yet. We are now a boundary playoff team without any potential for more. 44-48 wins and hope that's good enough for a playoff berth.

Yeah like i said,"barring catastrophic injuries".....Nash breaking down and missing significant time would fall into that category.

I would expect Nash to slow down,but not break down.

As for Dragic,i'm expecting a big year from him regardless of what happens with Nash.

 

[slinslin]

50 wins is not a guarantee to make the playoffs.

Lakers, Mavericks, Blazers, Thunder, Jazz and Nuggets are 6 teams that I would say are at least as good as the Suns so there isn't much room for error.

Sacramento should be a lot better than last year. And then you have Houston and San Antonio.

 

[slinslin]

You could be right. But we have the assets. Who would you like brought in? Who do you think would best complete this roster?

DeAndre Jordan, backup center from the Clippers.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yeah like i said,"barring catastrophic injuries".....Nash breaking down and missing significant time would fall into that category.

I would expect Nash to slow down,but not break down.

As for Dragic,i'm expecting a big year from him regardless of what happens with Nash.

And I expect Nash to break down well before he slows down (appreciably, anyway). Unless, of course, you're talking about the slowing down that might occur because of injury. I think his lifestyle and workout routine will slow the impact of aging as well as could be expected and so far he's played this game like he was 5 years younger.

However, his chronic back injury often leads to other problems and we saw a lot of that last year. IMO, there's more to come and it will likely occur before age has a chance to rob him of his speed and quickness.

Steve

 

[leclerc]

I don't remember that much about him, but he was drafted after his freshman year and does not appear to be a major contributor. Maybe I missing something, but the Suns already have Lawal and Collins as projects. IMHO, the Suns need a polished veteran.

I believe DeAndre Jordan is much further along than to belong in the project category.

He started 12 games last year and averaged 16 MPG over the course of the year with 5 PPG 5 REBS and almost a block. Shooting 0.60 FG% and a horrendous FT%.

I think he'll be pretty good and we're sort of rebuilding anyhow. Don't know how we could acquire him though. Oh well...

 

[Mainstreet]

And I expect Nash to break down well before he slows down (appreciably, anyway). Unless, of course, you're talking about the slowing down that might occur because of injury. I think his lifestyle and workout routine will slow the impact of aging as well as could be expected and so far he's played this game like he was 5 years younger.

However, his chronic back injury often leads to other problems and we saw a lot of that last year. IMO, there's more to come and it will likely occur before age has a chance to rob him of his speed and quickness.

Steve

Nash missed all of one game last season. Nash has missed more games in some past seasons. He did have some other health problems (I believe stomach muscles) but most players do get banged up during the season one time or another. The secret to Nash is his smarts and his passing ability. Nash will always have that to rely upon as he ages which should give him longevity. I wonder how many games Chris Paul missed last season?

Mark Cuban is still waiting for Nash to breakdown.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Nash missed all of one game last season. Nash has missed more games in some past seasons.

I wonder how many games Chris Paul missed last season?

I wonder how many games Tracy Mcgrady missed last year? Should we extend Nash for 5 more years because he missed fewer games than Chris or Tracy? Nash has a CHRONIC back problem. It is not sacrilegious to suggest that this problem is getting worse and will continue to worsen. Nash only missed one game last season but he should have missed a lot more than that. As it was, Gentry could barely get him to sit down even for one game.

Nash was bothered by a back problem, a hip problem and a stomach tear. Of the three, the tear probably hurt his game the most. Go back and watch that stretch of games where he grimaced every time he dribbled the ball, everytime he shot and everytime he passed. He had to hold his hand pressed to his stomach as he dribbled just to manage the pain. It may not have killed his stats but it sure affected his play. Maybe these injuries were a fluke but the history of chronic back pain sufferers suggests otherwise.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

DeAndre Jordan, backup center from the Clippers.

Jordan would be one I would consider, because of his age and physical tools.