who is your steal of the draft

[FArting]

Brock Osweiler

 

[THESMEL]

DD compared to CC

I like CC much better, He has never said that he wishes Cards fans acted like stupid Niner fans. DD is a good player but way to inconsistant to be a great player, deserving as much as Fitz? Kurt? I'm pretty sure Peyton Manning wanted nothing to do with DD's recruiting effort.


Look at his stats and see how he compares them to NT's! DD has never played without Watson, Branch or DWILL, maybe he would like to compare tackles?

DD is not a 4 year $48 Million -$30 million bonus DT or DLineman. He had 3 sacks in a SB and only 4 in the 2008 Reg season? He can be upgraded on much less as a player.

://www.nfl.com/player/darnelldockett/2506115/profile


Star DT Dockett signs four-year, $48M extension with Cardinals

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...t-signs-fouryear-48m-extension-with-cardinals

The extension follows a change in Dockett's approach to the contract issue. As long as two years ago, he has made it clear he believed he deserved a bigger contract. Last year, he sat out minicamp with what was called a sore hamstring. But he was there on time for the 2009 training camp and hasn't missed any workouts since, leaving the contract issues to agent Drew Rosenhaus.
Not that Dockett's free spirit still doesn't get the best of him at times. This summer, he made an ill-advised streaming Internet video taking a shower to win a bet, then promptly made a public apology.

Over the last three seasons, Dockett's 20 sacks are more than fellow defensive tackles Albert Haynesworth (17.5), Kevin Williams (17.5) and Tommie Harris (15.5). Dockett said he believes the new contract pays him what he deserves compared with others at his position.
"I did a lot of research, a lot of thought about it, and it's good for me," he said. "I'm very happy."
The news conference was packed with television crews and reporters, a big turnout that could be attributed to the fact that many assumed it had something to do with quarterback Matt Leinart, who reportedly is a candidate to be traded or released.
Whisenhunt was amused.
"I have to admit I was kind of tickled," he said.


the latest in failed leadership
link
http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/06/dockett-arizona-is-perfect-fit-for-manning/

Darnell Dockett probably shouldn’t expect a Christmas card from Kevin Kolb after what he said on Tuesday.
That’s because Dockett, who said he believes in his current quarterback (that’s Kolb), told NFL Network he’d much rather have Peyton Manning leading the Cardinals.
Dockett started his open and unbridled recruitment by comparing Manning’s free-agent-to-be status with NBA star LeBron James‘ journey on the open market.
“I don’t personally have anything against our quarterbacks we have now, I feel confident in the quarterbacks we have now,” Dockett told “NFL Total Access” Tuesday. “I feel like next year is going to be our year. But, who wouldn’t want to play with Manning? Let’s be honest. The man is a legend. He knows his stuff. Plus, I’m going into my ninth year. I just feel like, why not play with another Hall of Famer?”
Ignoring for a moment that Dockett doesn’t even refer to Kolb by name, his vote of confidence for the current Cardinals QBs doesn’t exactly exude confidence.
In full sales mode, Dockett listed the warm weather, playing in a dome and a team he believes is a few pieces away from returning to the playoffs as selling points for the Cardinals. There’s also Larry Fitzgerald, plus a few other perks.
“Peyton can get a tan and everything,” Dockett argued. “We have the perfect fit for him right here in Arizona. He can get his number, my parking pass, free donuts on Saturdays, I’ll make sure my guys clean his cleats real well, and even my barber can come to his house and cut his hair. All he has to do is show up to practice and play in the games.”
A parking spot and donuts? Then it has to be pretty much decided.

I'm not sure why you have all this hate for Dockett, but I find it to be totally ridiculous. As are most of your posts.

 

[Jetstream Green]

One cannot judge Dockett by the sacks he has personally but how he has enabled young players like Acho to get sacks. I bet a lot of teams in the NFL would pay what we did to have a player like Dockett. I disagree with you on this a lot. Take Dockett out of the line up and this defense would suffer. In the run game he is very good and if he does not get the tackle, he disrupts it enough to get the other guys in. Dockett constantly is getting double teamed because other coaches feel the same, Dockett is very good

 

[Crazy Canuck]

One cannot judge Dockett by the sacks he has personally but how he has enabled young players like Acho to get sacks. I bet a lot of teams in the NFL would pay what we did to have a player like Dockett. I disagree with you on this a lot. Take Dockett out of the line up and this defense would suffer. In the run game he is very good and if he does not get the tackle, he disrupts it enough to get the other guys in. Dockett constantly is getting double teamed because other coaches feel the same, Dockett is very good

Warren Sapp says that Dockett and Ngata are the two best D-tackles in the League.

 

[DoTheDew]

Floyd from ND. If he had been playing with RGIII or Luck, he'd be considered a top 5 pick.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think Floyd will get picked under the top 20 and seems like a Pro-Bowl WR

 

[THESMEL]

good but not great

I know he is good and demands double teams at times, but what about his average of 35 tackles and 4 sacks a year screams 4 years 48 million dollars with 30 million bonus?

Dockett can be replaced at any time without a huge loss of individual or team production, Our entire defense is inconsistant, we may stop the best back in the NFL, we give up 200 to the worse? yea the pass happy offense doesn't help the defense- ever, but we will have to disagree on this one.

He got an early first contract and started gamimng for a new early 2nd contract immediately, this GM gave into his demands, while cutting or low balling all other players? DD was the last drafted Cardinal signed by Denny and first by Whiz - 5 years later.

starve the good dog feed the bad dog, seems Graves and Whiz's personell philosphy. sorry flip through this stat again and tell me exactly what you expect from DD going forward, He is lame duck after every contract. everything else to the side, He is not worth that kind of money?

Those comparisond don't hunt- He has had large NT's eating up others beside him, Gabe, Branch, DWill, are not lumps of coal - they do well elsewhere like most Cards "good dogs"

http://www.nfl.com/player/darnelldockett/2506115/profile

One cannot judge Dockett by the sacks he has personally but how he has enabled young players like Acho to get sacks. I bet a lot of teams in the NFL would pay what we did to have a player like Dockett. I disagree with you on this a lot. Take Dockett out of the line up and this defense would suffer. In the run game he is very good and if he does not get the tackle, he disrupts it enough to get the other guys in. Dockett constantly is getting double teamed because other coaches feel the same, Dockett is very good

 

[Jetstream Green]

sure

 

[JeffGollin]

I think Floyd will get picked under the top 20 and seems like a Pro-Bowl WR

There's growing buzz that he may leapfrog Blackmon, I think both will be off the board by #10, because more than a couple of teams drafting that high feel that a premier WR is all that stands in the way of their Super Bowl shot.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

There's growing buzz that he may leapfrog Blackmon, I think both will be off the board by #10, because more than a couple of teams drafting that high feel that a premier WR is all that stands in the way of their Super Bowl shot.

As a "buzz" it ranks with RG111 going off the board before Luck.

 

[THESMEL]

Seems 3 to 13 are shaking up the Players they may take, Tannerhill will drop one more our way, Luke K is still my hope, I think pro bowl ILB at both positions would serve the Cardinals well,

 

[Patoons]

Greg Childs. Big guy, fast, and runs solid routes. He's a bit of a red flag as a result of his injury history, but if he were healthy last year, we'd be talking about him as a top 5 WR in this draft.

Shea McClellin, as well. He just keeps climbing the charts. He's a very underrated 3-4 OLB.

 

[JeffGollin]

One guy not even mentioned in the three draft guides I bought (Lindy's PFDG and PFW) was Tyler Shoemaker (6-1½ 216) out of Boise St.

He was considered an undrafted FA possession guy, but ran in the 4.4's on his Pro Day. I love possession receivers who turn out to be much faster than expected.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Dont'a Hightower.

Will get picked at the end of Rnd 1, and play like a Top 10 pick.


You boys are doing your homework.

Some others already stated:

Greg Childs, WR

Trumaine Johnson, CB/S

Brandon Mosley, OT

 

[Chopper0080]

As a "buzz" it ranks with RG111 going off the board before Luck.

I disagree because they are such different types of players. I would take Floyd over Blackmon for the same reasons the Cards chose to keep Fitz over Boldin. Floyd offers a more versatile skill set vs Blackmon's more limited one. Justin Blackmon is Anquan Boldin without the knee injuries in college, which isn't a bad thing, but is the best you could expect from him.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I disagree because they are such different types of players. I would take Floyd over Blackmon for the same reasons the Cards chose to keep Fitz over Boldin. Floyd offers a more versatile skill set vs Blackmon's more limited one. Justin Blackmon is Anquan Boldin without the knee injuries in college, which isn't a bad thing, but is the best you could expect from him.

Blackmon is viewed as part of the elite 6 in this draft; Floyd is not and it doesn't come down to off field issues. Many do not see the offsetting versatility that you stress. He's a poor man's Fitz; not a bad thing in itself, but, for one, I'll take Blackmon, which no doubt will be the draft order.

 

[WildBB]

One guy not even mentioned in the three draft guides I bought (Lindy's PFDG and PFW) was Tyler Shoemaker (6-1½ 216) out of Boise St.

He was considered an undrafted FA possession guy, but ran in the 4.4's on his Pro Day. I love possession receivers who turn out to be much faster than expected.

Pretty quick. I wouldn't put too much into pro day times though.

What are his stats?

 

[WildBB]

On the D side of the ball, linemen are plentiful or the OLB's.

Upshaw, Mercilus, Perry, McLellin is in the 1-2 round range now. Out of Curry, Wagner, Irvin, Spence, David and Lewis, one will emerge as a great pick.

Keuchly will be very good. He might go later than expected.

One guy who hasn't got an once of recognition here on the board is 3/4 OLB - DE, Andre Branch out of Clemson. He could be a force. So could Coples in the right setting. That probably isn't ours.

Then one of the DT's or DE's could be a big impact player : Poe, Still, Worthy, Brockers, Fletcher Cox is going to be real good as a 3/4 - DE.

As for two long shots who could make rosters late:
3/4 - OLB - Tim Fugger:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69970&draftyear=2012&genpos=DE

3/4 - OLB/DE - Braylon Broughton:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68753&draftyear=2012&genpos=OLB

A very good DT who kept the blockers off the Tide backers for the #1 rush D in the nation. He could be a steal in the 4th. Upshaw raved about him.
NFL DRAFT SCOUT TOP DOWN DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama, 6-1, 316, 2-3...Chapman certainly would be higher on everybody's list, but he had surgery on Jan. 17 to repair a torn ACL. The injury actually occurred in an Oct. 1 game against Florida. But he played through the season before getting the surgery. Ironically, the importance and ability of this stout nose tackle was perhaps most dramatically demonstrated in Alabama's Nov. 19 game, the only one he sat out, when Georgia Southern took advantage of his absence and rushed for 302 yards. Although Chapman did seem less than 100 percent during most of the 2011 season, scouts took special note that he played injured.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69317&draftyear=2012&genpos=DT

 

[JeffGollin]

Dont'a Hightower. Will get picked at the end of Rnd 1...

Seems to be mock draft favorite to go to Steelers in round one.

 

[WildBB]

Seems to be mock draft favorite to go to Steelers in round one.

They need an OT, BADLY.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Bruce Irvin DE/OLB -WVU. Quick, quick, quick, big motor, Good sack numbers.

Isiah Pead - RB -Cincinnati - Dude can block, catch, run and will make someone very happy. He is a complete back and runs hard for a 5/10-200lb guy

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

IF the Cards found Jeff Allen, OG/OT still available when they pick in the 3rd or 4th round.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Brock Osweiler

I thought he was horrible on Grudens QB camp. Totally unbelievable.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I am really liking Bobbie Massie right now. Could be a big time tackle in the early second round.

 

[Chopper0080]

Blackmon is viewed as part of the elite 6 in this draft; Floyd is not and it doesn't come down to off field issues. Many do not see the offsetting versatility that you stress. He's a poor man's Fitz; not a bad thing in itself, but, for one, I'll take Blackmon, which no doubt will be the draft order.

Don't kid yourself, Blackmon has has off field issues as well (DUI?) so I believe, like any young man, they both come with risks.

As far as Blackmon being part of the elite 6, I guess it depends on your are basing your info off of. Blackmon made his living in college by being able to out physical college CBs, not because he was a tremendous physical speciman. I think he can become a successful pro, but he will have to change his style of play, because he won't be able to man handle professional CBs like he did the college ones and he doesn't have the natural speed to be able to outrun them.