Who or what would you trade for Kellen Winslow?

[AzWins23]

If the browns are willing to deal him away...What or who would you give up???

I say 6th round pick

 

[Ryanwb]

I don't want Winslow on the team I root for. In fact I would send him a Tillman jersey and let him know what a real soldier is

Winslow = jackass

 

[BACH]

Winslow is probably out for the year. How can you even ask the question?

 

[D-Dogg]

A motorcycle and a sack of practice balls.

Come on Romeo...you know that's a good deal. Although Rosenhaus is repping the practice balls, so it might turn around and bite you in the ass.

 

[Shane]

I wouldnt want him at all! NO THANKS!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Shelton to the Browns for Winslow.

 

[Stout]

A six pack of Natural Light. A warm six pack. And the Browns have to pay his salarly (or not, as the case may be).

 

[D-Dogg]

A six pack of Natural Light. A warm six pack. And the Browns have to pay his salarly (or not, as the case may be).

Thats a very nice beer for a player like that. You should rethink that.

 

[Southpaw]

A Freddie Jones Bobblehead doll.

 

[azdad1978]

I'll pass on this trade.

 

[clif]

I would trade a 4th rounder

 

[SuperSpck]

A conditional 8th rounder from the 2013 draft.

 

[Chainthroer]

A box of rocks.

 

[Russ Smith]

Nothing. The Browns are now saying he's violated the terms of his contract by riding the motorcycle and he's going to quite probably lose another big chunk of money from his contract over that.

Anybody that traded for him would watch him immediately fire his agent and hire someone like Rosenhaus who would want a brand ndw contract to make up for all the money he's lost so far.

 

[seesred]

I'd take his Dad before him today. He will probably never be the same. But he would have been IMO a very good player.

GBR
40

 

[justAndy]

A six pack of Natural Light. A warm six pack. And the Browns have to pay his salarly (or not, as the case may be).

a 12 pack of Josef Hoffbauer - the worst beer ever made...

 

[BACH]

Nothing. The Browns are now saying he's violated the terms of his contract by riding the motorcycle and he's going to quite probably lose another big chunk of money from his contract over that.

Anybody that traded for him would watch him immediately fire his agent and hire someone like Rosenhaus who would want a brand ndw contract to make up for all the money he's lost so far.

Speaking of...

POSTONS TO MEET WITH BROWNS?

According to The Cleveland Plain Dealer, agents Carl and Kevin Poston will be arriving in town on Wednesday to meet with injured client "Evel Kellenievel" Winslow and possibly the entity to whom he contractually promised not to ride motorcycles -- the Browns.

Winslow's condition has not changed, but the biggest potential problems are his injured shoulder and his injured right knee.

From the Postons' perspective, they need to tread very lightly when talking about this situation with the Browns. This time around, the Browns hold all the cards. If/when it appears that Winslow's injuries from the Sunday motorcycle crash will significantly impair his ability to play football in the future, the Browns could chose to aks for more than $9 million back in bonus money -- more than $2 million of which hasn't even been tendered to Winslow yet.

And our guess is that, even if the Browns plan to keep Winslow, they might ask him to forego all or part of the payment due to Kellenievel on July 15 in settlement of his blatant contract breach.

Why shouldn't they? At a time when a growing number of players are willing to refuse to honor their contracts by staying away from mandatory minicamps, we like the idea of the Browns forcing Winslow to live with the consequences of conduct that constitutes a clear violation of the terms to which he agreed.

The process would be fairly simple. The Browns would seek an arbitration, and the arbitration (given the plain language of the contract) would be a rim-rocking slamma jamma.

Then again, the smart thing for the Browns for now is to bide their time. After all, they've got Kellenievel by the short hairs, so perhaps he and his agents will behave. At a minimum the team can now quit worrying about the Postons trying to put language in the deal that would give Winslow a chance to recoup that $5.4 million incentive payment based on minimum playing time that the agents foolishly placed in only the first year of his contract.

 

[Russ Smith]

THe real irony to me is that reportedly it was Sean Taylor's jealousy of Winslow's deal that prompted him to fire his agent and led to his holdout. Washington can't redo the deal until the 1 year deadline passes anyways, and now it's clearly proven that his deal is better than K2's.

Great player but he's getting really bad advice.

 

[CardsFan88]

THe real irony to me is that reportedly it was Sean Taylor's jealousy of Winslow's deal that prompted him to fire his agent and led to his holdout. Washington can't redo the deal until the 1 year deadline passes anyways, and now it's clearly proven that his deal is better than K2's.

Great player but he's getting really bad advice.

I thought prestige for a football player was created and defined on the football field, and not in the wallet or number in the contract.

Taylor's whole reason for holding out (if based on KW contract) is based on the perception of how big the deal was, and not how big it really was...
You feeling better now S. taylor?

When did it become so important that you had to make more than the other guy because you had 59 more yards this season? That 3 million you make isn't enough, you want 4 million like the other guy.

I feel the browns should do whatever their contract states they can do to him. At this point if I could get out of the contract I probably would if he's going to miss this season.

Like everyone else has been saying, the players aren't honoring their contract...(which isn't built into the contract)....so if the owners want to play hardball with language which IS in the contract, they should.

The browns probably should take the cap hit now, because there is almost no way he'll make that 14million in 2010. (So he won't get the end of the deal, missed out on the first part of the deal, and is injured right now...ouch...that 50 million dollar deal may end up being 15million or whatever.

It is going to be interesting to see how/if he recovers to play football again. If he does, how effective will he be? In my estimation, a broken leg with bum ribs is a hard thing for a TE to fully recover from.

Oh, one thing which the NFL should seriously put on the table for the next cba.

They need to allow contracts (if they don't already) to have a clause in it to allow teams to ask for X amount of money back if the player at anypoint during the contract holds out.

Just think, if a player had to give back 10, 20, 30% of his deal you wouldn't be hearing of many players holding out for more money.

 

[Kolo]

a 12 pack of Josef Hoffbauer - the worst beer ever made...

I nominate Hamm's.

 

[Mulli]

I have a cap for one free liter of Dr. Pepper. Wouldn't trade that for him.

 

[Assface]

I would trade my loans and credit card debts for him.

 

[earthsci]

I nominate Hamm's.

No way dude. Hamm's is from the Land of Sky Blue Water.

 

[40yearfan]

No way dude. Hamm's is from the Land of Sky Blue Water.

Then why does it taste like cat urine.

 

[BACH]

Then why does it taste like cat urine.

Just curious... How do you know??