Why aren't we talking about the asinine Coach Whisenhunt?

[Duckjake]

I refute that it was a horrible call. The concern it the fumble by Patrick, right?

Wells and THT have proven they aren't great at holding onto the ball. Cardinals spelled backwards spoke for me in his post.

No not at all. I just don't like throwing the football in that situation because an incomplete pass stops the clock as soon as the ball hits the ground. A run pulls more time off the clock as the clock runs while people get up off the pile. Sure I'd be happy if the pass were complete but I still wouldn't like the call.

Better scenario, build an offense that can run for a friggin' first down when you have the lead with less than 6 minutes to play.

 

[Cardiac]

No not at all. I just don't like throwing the football in that situation because an incomplete pass stops the clock as soon as the ball hits the ground. A run pulls more time off the clock as the clock runs while people get up off the pile.

Better scenario, build an offense that can run for a friggin' first down when you have the lead with less than 6 minutes to play.

Yes the running game needs to improve. Knowing it's not where it should be then running the ball only insures the clock keeps running. As it worked out the clock kept running. I think it was Russ who said that play call also showed faith in Hall which is a good thing.

 

[D-Dogg]

Throwing the football with 50 seconds left in the game on third down, when NO has no timeouts left??

What is he possibly thinking?

Patrick fumbles and that ball could have easily been scooped up and taken the other way for a GW TD..

What is the rationale behind such a braindead decision?

DUDE! We were really arguing all the different options there...and loved what happened because of the result but we won and that was awesome. O played oK...d played great. No complaint here.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

That wasn't the smartest call I've ever seen. Gave the Saints some extra time and with our defense you never want to do that.

But hey we won so the Pollyannas won't let anything that the Cards did wrong be discussed. Like the 1.7 yards per carry rushing for instance.

You realize in every game (won or loss) there is going to be some facet that doesn't work and a stat you can point to that needs improvement, right? You also realize that every game isn't going to be a 54-0 win where every unit is flawless, right? Right?

The key is not being so cynical as that is all you focus on. Especially after humoungous wins.

Apparently both the Cards and Duck have things they can work on over the next two weeks

 

[Mulli]

You realize in every game (won or loss) there is going to be some facet that doesn't work and a stat you can pointo that needs improvement. You also realize that every game isn't going to be a 54-0 win where every unit is flawless, right? Right?

The key is not being so cynical as that is all you focus on. Especially after humoungous wins.

Apparently both the Cards and Duck have things they can work on over the next two weeks

Haha! Yep. Instead of questioning Whiz, the coach on the other side has to be questioned as to why the Saints weren't throwing to WR deep more instead of throwing to Betts.

 

[Duckjake]

You realize in every game (won or loss) there is going to be some facet that doesn't work and a stat you can pointo that needs improvement.

You do realize that is what people talk about after football games right? The good and the bad. Why do you get so upset over somebody saying they didn't like something about the game?

I don't need to work on anything. I called this game right on the money.

 

[Mulli]

You do realize that is what people talk about after football games right? The good and the bad. Why do you get so upset over somebody saying they didn't like something about the game?

I don't need to work on anything. I called this game right on the money.

Seem kinda grumpy, friend. just a little.

 

[Duckjake]

Seem kinda grumpy, friend. just a little.

I'm not the one posting these tirades against anyone who dares say anything negative about the Cards.

 

[Mulli]

I'm not the one posting these tirades against anyone who dares say anything negative about the Cards.

Good for you!

 

[Duckjake]

Haha! Yep. Instead of questioning Whiz, the coach on the other side has to be questioned as to why the Saints weren't throwing to WR deep more instead of throwing to Betts.

Yeah but then some Saints fan would post about what goofballs people were for asking that question because the Saints are the defending SB Champions and so the coach can do no wrong.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

You do realize that is what people talk about after football games right? The good and the bad. Why do you get so upset over somebody saying they didn't like something about the game?

I don't need to work on anything. I called this game right on the money.

And see Duck this is the problem. Both you and K9 as of late are more concerned about being RIGHT and furthering your points, then you are about enjoying the game.

You say people talk about the good and the bad.......but almost every post I have read of yours tonight has some sort of negative twist or caveat. Its hilarious. Go reread what you have written, even when you say something somewhat positive, its like you catch yourself and throw in some caveat about YPA or 3rd down completation percentage.

Far be it for me to tell anyone how to follow this team. But damn if you can't have a little more sugar in your Kool Aid (or to borrow your term, be more of a "Pollyanna") after a ten point win against the defending champs in which we started a UDFA rookie for the first time this early since 1976 and where a maligned defense that you have taken every opportunity to berate over the past three weeks stepped up time and time again.....well then why are you even watching the games then?

You and K9 arent going to get paid to predict anything and most of us don't care if you called something right, or were completely wrong before, during, or after the game.

The Cardinals won. I'll sleep good tonight. Hopefully you can get the number of YPA and 3rd down completition out of your head long enough so that you can too.

 

[Ed Burmila]

I agree that you should probably enjoy the win for a while.

That said, I cannot believe that Whiz does not understand why that was not a smart decision. It was inches away from being picked up and run in for a TD by New Orleans, which would have qualified this as the single worst loss in the history of a team that has had a lot of losses.

With 50 seconds left, you take a knee, punt it, and NO gets the ball at their own 15 with 0:12 left on the clock and no timeouts. That IS the correct decision, 100 times out of 100. I'm glad he's confident that Hall would not throw an INT, but it's the fumble part that can't be predicted and that's why it's the wrong call. period.

 

[green machine]

Less of an issue with the throw to Patrick than I do with the going five wide, no RB set out of the shotgun on I think the series before. They were midfield, I think Saints territory, and the call there was the play action. Instead the Cards went play action on 1st and 10 the next series. Almost like Whiz was like "oh crap, I should have called that play, might as well do it now."

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I was referring simply to his decision today. It was assinine.

Whiz didn't fumble the ball.

Also, there was basically the same chance of Beanie or hightower fumbling on a dive play. Right?

This win gave us the inside track to our third division title. How can you argue with Whiz's overall success with this franchise?

Sorry duckjake and other quibblers, but it's a little silly.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I agree that you should probably enjoy the win for a while.

That said, I cannot believe that Whiz does not understand why that was not a smart decision. It was inches away from being picked up and run in for a TD by New Orleans, which would have qualified this as the single worst loss in the history of a team that has had a lot of losses.

With 50 seconds left, you take a knee, punt it, and NO gets the ball at their own 15 with 0:12 left on the clock and no timeouts. That IS the correct decision, 100 times out of 100. I'm glad he's confident that Hall would not throw an INT, but it's the fumble part that can't be predicted and that's why it's the wrong call. period.

Okay, Ed. You've convinced me that you have a better football mind than Whiz.

 

[187]

Would someone tell DRC to not hold the ball like a loaf of bread?

A LOT of defensive players have NO idea how to hold a football properly when they end up with it in their hands. Especially DB's, they love to not tuck it and run around with the ball no where near their body. It happens. DRC scored so I'm not complaining, although I definitely yelled GET DOWN (while at work watching the game) when he had it in his hands. Can't really blame him for wanting to get in the endzone the way he and the D have played lately.

 

[Ed Burmila]

Okay, Ed. You've convinced me that you have a better football mind than Whiz.

Nowhere did I say that. I said this was the wrong call for the situation. I guess you believe that every decision the staff makes is the right one. Sorry for questioning the Better Football Mind of Ken Whisenhunt. I liked it when he signed Derek Anderson, that was great. Who are we to criticize it.

 

[desertdawg]

Nowhere did I say that. I said this was the wrong call for the situation. I guess you believe that every decision the staff makes is the right one. Sorry for questioning the Better Football Mind of Ken Whisenhunt. I liked it when he signed Derek Anderson, that was great. Who are we to criticize it.

When it boils down to it, no play call is right or wrong until after the play happens. You have to look at the over all play call, which I was pleased with. When we continued to run the ball, no matter what. It helped. Good game.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Nowhere did I say that. I said this was the wrong call for the situation. I guess you believe that every decision the staff makes is the right one. Sorry for questioning the Better Football Mind of Ken Whisenhunt. I liked it when he signed Derek Anderson, that was great. Who are we to criticize it.

The saints gained about 50 yards in two or three plays at the end of the first half, and nobody in the stadium expected the cardinals to pass on the play in question.

Was it the greatest call in the history of football? Probably not.

But it's not the stinker your making it out to be.

 

[Ed Burmila]

The saints gained about 50 yards in two or three plays at the end of the first half, and nobody in the stadium expected the cardinals to pass on the play in question.

Was it the greatest call in the history of football? Probably not.

But it's not the stinker your making it out to be.

You're right, we should probably just keep rolling the dice in situations like that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

it was an assinine call BUT... it probably gave a TON of confidence to our QB moving forward and that assinine coach just got this team, left for dead, with an undrafted rookie QB to a W over the defending Super Bowl champs AND has us atop our division at 3-2 (for the fourth straight year) so I'll take the good with the bad.

 

[D-Dogg]

it was an assinine call BUT... it probably gave a TON of confidence to our QB moving forward and that assinine coach just got this team, left for dead, with an undrafted rookie QB to a W over the defending Super Bowl champs AND has us atop our division at 3-2 (for the fourth straight year) so I'll take the good with the bad.

This this and this all fracking day long.

 

[Osbern61]

it was an assinine call BUT... it probably gave a TON of confidence to our QB moving forward and that assinine coach just got this team, left for dead, with an undrafted rookie QB to a W over the defending Super Bowl champs AND has us atop our division at 3-2 (for the fourth straight year) so I'll take the good with the bad.

 

[Shane]

it was an assinine call BUT... it probably gave a TON of confidence to our QB moving forward and that assinine coach just got this team, left for dead, with an undrafted rookie QB to a W over the defending Super Bowl champs AND has us atop our division at 3-2 (for the fourth straight year) so I'll take the good with the bad.

 

[Mulli]

it was an assinine call BUT... it probably gave a TON of confidence to our QB moving forward and that assinine coach just got this team, left for dead, with an undrafted rookie QB to a W over the defending Super Bowl champs AND has us atop our division at 3-2 (for the fourth straight year) so I'll take the good with the bad.

That's a fact, jack!!!!