Why was Wells drafted?

[Rivercard]

Again cheese not sure what the issue is but Whiz not playing Wells nearly enough or continuing to run TH out their as your starter is as confusing a decision as cutting Leinart to go with a big fat TURD in DA! Not sure what the hell this coach is seeing but clearly different than what most fans and media have seen! Have lost faith in him as a HC!

Agreed. Whiz is becoming one of the great mysteries of the universe. He's quickly running out of mulligans.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Again cheese not sure what the issue is but Whiz not playing Wells nearly enough or continuing to run TH out their as your starter is as confusing a decision as cutting Leinart to go with a big fat TURD in DA! Not sure what the hell this coach is seeing but clearly different than what most fans and media have seen! Have lost faith in him as a HC!

i haven't completely lost faith in him, but I'll admit, I don't have anywhere close to as much as I used to have.

Keith at RT? Faneca at G? Leaving yourself with only Anderson/Hall? HT over Beanie? Coming out throwing like we're Kurt Warner instead of the worst QB tandem probably ever in the history of football? Leaving yourself with only ONE backup OLB with a team with ancient/over the hill OLB? Replacing Hayes/Dansby with Lennon/Washington? Trading away CB depth for no reason? This team has done A LOT wrong in the off-season/in-season.

Think about this... next week against the Saints, if we start Hall (and sadly, we probably should) between our QB and starting WRs, 3 of the 4 will be UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FAS. That's UNBELIEVABLE.

 

[Covert Rain]

And having only one real NFL ready wide receiver dressed for the game.

9 points a game average the last 3 weeks from our offense! And with an offensive genius as HC. Again THE most "peculiar" season I can ever remember.

We could still have Boldin and the deepest receiving core in the NFL and it wouldn't have mattered. Anderson couldn't complete a pass to an aircraft carrier even if he was standing on the deck.

 

[kerouac9]

i haven't completely lost faith in him, but I'll admit, I don't have anywhere close to as much as I used to have.

Keith at RT? Faneca at G? Leaving yourself with only Anderson/Hall? HT over Beanie? Coming out throwing like we're Kurt Warner instead of the worst QB tandem probably ever in the history of football? Leaving yourself with only ONE backup OLB with a team with ancient/over the hill OLB? Replacing Hayes/Dansby with Lennon/Washington? Trading away CB depth for no reason? This team has done A LOT wrong in the off-season/in-season.

Think about this... next week against the Saints, if we start Hall (and sadly, we probably should) between our QB and starting WRs, 3 of the 4 will be UNDRAFTED ROOKIE FAS. That's UNBELIEVABLE.

This is the deepest team that we've ever had. The belly of the team has been addressed. This was the toughest cut to 53 ever.

 

[MrYeahBut]

We could still have Boldin and the deepest receiving core in the NFL and it wouldn't have mattered. Anderson couldn't complete a pass to an aircraft carrier even if he was standing on the deck.

I'm not sure he could hit the ocean

 

[Mulli]

Agreed. Whiz is becoming one of the great mysteries of the universe. He's quickly running out of mulligans.

He will always have me.

 

[MrYeahBut]

He will always have me.

Thank you, Tango

 

[seesred]

I don't understand Whiz, but, After three good years I will stay with him very strongly till he fixes it! Whiz had no problem pulling DA and that's in his own face. All everyone is saying is true. But hindsight is 20-20. If we did this or if we did this. If Warner had not retired, if Q didn't hate the FO. If Rolle didn't want New York to be a star. If Lienart would have been more into the game itself. If Whiz did'nt think he could reinvent DA.

A Lot of ifs. This is the hand that was dealt us. Our Defense is on the field 35-40 minutes and is asked to clean up int, fumbles, punts etc; Breaston is hurt special teams with the kick off team the only A+ unit. A QB that flat out sucks, This year is going to be hard.

The good news is IMO we have a lot of talented players.We must look at what are the most glaring problems.

#1 in my opinion is the whole offensive unit . Line, TE, QB and who is our main RB.

#2. A pass rusher or two who can actually rush with speed.

#3. A punt returner that can also play WR or RB.

#4. Linebackers. Safetys are OK. CB are ok.

What we do this year is work hard to get next year right. Play the new guys and sit down the non productive guys. We have nothing at all to lose. Something nwe can do now to help Hall. Fix the darn O-LINE!

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[Shane]

That will likely change unless Timmy gets another 80 yard mirage like he did in Atlanta. Beanie continually claws out a few more yards when there isn't much there.

How was the 80 yarder a mirage? Was his 72 yarder a mirage? His 56 yard scamper a mirage?

All runs that are longer than Beanies longest in his career?

So when Beanie does it its just talent but Timmy its a mirage? (even though he has yet to have a run over 50)

You "well if you take this run and that run away" type of people kill me. That argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

 

[Duckjake]

But hindsight is 20-20.

Sadly while most of the recent posts are hindsight many people have been pointing out the problems for quite some time. Just look at how many people predicted the Chargers to destroy the Cards with Gates getting multiple yards and TDs.

I can't ever remember when two different posters almost had the exact score predicted with the opponent winning by 30 or more like what happened last week.

 

[Rivercard]

How was the 80 yarder a mirage? Was his 72 yarder a mirage? His 56 yard scamper a mirage? .

I'm not downgrading that play - it was well executed at the point of attack, but on that run there didn't appear to be a defender for Tim to deal with after the line of scrimmage! You'd think after an 80 yard run that he'd have at least a little higher APC than Mr Wells after only 4 games.

 

[mjb21aztd]

To carry the gatorade bottle for 2 ypc Hightower , man I do wish we would use beanie more he can get 5 ypc a lot better then Hightower, he does need to learn how to avoid injuries, and hold onto the ball though. Plus i'm sure Whiz loves the fact Hightower can catch so that is probally why wells isn't playing much.

 

[TheHopToad]

Good thing Levi Brown doesn't suck or we'd have more "We should have drafted Adrian Peterson" threads...

 

[Brewster10]

I think Wells could be excellent. But the issue here isn't really between Tim and Beanie, it's the total lack of carries in general given to the RBs..

With a roster of below average QBs and poor pass protectors, I am amazed at how little commitment there is to the run game.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Good thing Levi Brown doesn't suck or we'd have more "We should have drafted Adrian Peterson" threads...

He would've sat behind JJ Arrington anyway

 

[Rivercard]

With a roster of below average QBs and poor pass protectors, I am amazed at how little commitment there is to the run game.

Hard to run when you're down 28-7 by halftime. I don't recall the ratio being so out of balance in the Oak and St L games.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Hard to run when you're down 28-7 by halftime. I don't recall the ratio being so out of balance in the Oak and St L games.

But Wells didn't even see the field until a few minutes were gone in the 2nd quarter. Maybe he was 1/8 pound overweight and they wanted to send a message.

 

[New Mexico]

So if that is your standard then you obviously consider Timmy elite too?

In the last two years behind same pitiful line he is averaging 4.4 YPC.

Why did you only go back two years? Wells career YPA is 4.5, Hightower's is 3.8. That's significant. I like Hightower, but he isn't as good as Wells running the football which is what we need to do since we don't have a quarterback worth a shiit.

 

[Shane]

I'm not downgrading that play - it was well executed at the point of attack, but on that run there didn't appear to be a defender for Tim to deal with after the line of scrimmage! You'd think after an 80 yard run that he'd have at least a little higher APC than Mr Wells after only 4 games.

I didn't compare 4 games I compared two seasons.

 

[Shane]

Why did you only go back two years? Wells career YPA is 4.5, Hightower's is 3.8. That's significant. I like Hightower, but he isn't as good as Wells running the football which is what we need to do since we don't have a quarterback worth a shiit.

Because They have both been running behind the same line under roughly the same conditions for 2 seasons. Tim has seemed to improved every year.

So if you want to get IMO an accurate comparison you compare what they have each done while both on the team and in the same seasons.

If it only takes you two years to know that Beanie is an "elite" RB due to his 4.5 yards per carry then that same standard and 2 seasons of 4.4 should qualify Timmy for the same accolades.

Personally I don't believe either one of them are elite. I think Beanie has the potential to be elite. But he has yet to show us anything near an elite level IMO. He needs to start breaking these so called game breaking game changing runs people keep talking about.

 

[Duckjake]

The Cardinals front office is a joke.

First round draft picks:

2005 they draft a guy who sucks as a CB and is undisciplined as a FS and is cut before his rookie contract expires.

2006 they draft a QB who can do nothing but check down and is so bad he is cut before his rookie contract expires and is replaced with possibly the worst 1-2 QB group in NFL history.

2007 they let Leonard Davis go for nothing and pass on Adrian Peterson to draft Leonard Davis.

2008 they finally draft a guy who might be a real find but digresses in coverage every year to the point where even ShaneH starts to question him.

2009 they draft a guy who is kept off the field by a 5th round draft pick from a division IX School.

2010 they draft a guy who is too fat to even play.

 

[Duckjake]

Part two:

1999 they draft Barry Bonds

2000 they draft a RB who can't even answer the telephone

2001 they draft a guy who can't even remember the snap count.

2002 they draft a guy who can't get up off the couch at the Edwards Jones office long enough to play more than a snap or two for the Cards.

2003 they draft a WR who eventually earns the nickname Skillet Hands and his own ASFN HOF photoshop picture.

2004 they finally get a guy who is a true stud but only because his father is best friends with the head coach.

 

[Shane]

2003 they draft a WR who eventually earns the nickname Skillet Hands and his own ASFN HOF photoshop picture.

You make that sound as though they are teh same person.

 

[Duckjake]

You make that sound as though they are the same person.

They are. Don't you remember the classic picture of BJohnson that someone made with him in the endzone with his arms out waiting for a pass with skillets for hands?

You probably misunderstood and were thinking about the photoshop thread that was made for the Q.

 

[Shane]

They are. Don't you remember the classic picture of BJohnson that someone made with him in the endzone with his arms out waiting for a pass with skillets for hands?

You probably misunderstood and were thinking about the photoshop thread that was made for the Q.

You said HOF. I didn't know the BJ one was in the HOF.