Why Whisenhunt Drives Me Nuts

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1. Here it is his 6th year, and only 1 time in his 6 years have we known for sure who the starting QB was going to be come Game 1. And that 1 time took a Super Bowl berth and some embarrassing contract negotiations even to pull that one off.

2. How can any head coach in the NFL screw things up with WR Anquan Boldin?

3. What exactly IS the Whisenhunt offense?

Should we define it by what it NOT is?

a. A smashmouth, committed running attack.
b. A vertical passing game (how many times do Cardinal QBs coached by Whisenhunt throw a pass longer than 25 yards)?
c. A QB friendly offense that even rookies or first year veterans can pick up readily.
d. An offense that spoils the other team's pass rushing pressure through a variety of screens, rollouts, bootlegs, waggles, hot routes, etc.
e. Well defined by the personnel Whisenhunt has brought in---in six years consistently poor tackle play and only one tackle drafted in the first three rounds---in six years still no deep threat WR---how about slot WRs since Boldin?---how about QBs that fit the so-called system?---how about RBs who can run, block and catch (better than average in each case)?
f. A base offense that the team can have just as much success in as the two-minute offense.
g. An offense that does everything it can to protect its QBs---especially if the RDE is a stud and the LT is having a tough time protecting the blind side.

4. But wait, why was Warner so successful in the Whisenhunt offense? Because Warner and Todd Haley ran their own modified offense wherein they scouted the other team and during the week decided where the best mis-matches were and set out to exploit them, and in so many cases knew exactly where and when they were going to throw the ball before the ball was snapped. They also spent time diagramming their own pet plays for each week---which fired up the team and gave it its swag on offense. But, most importantly, they didn't focus the whole passing game on Larry Fitzgerald or to make Larry Fitzgerald happy. In fact, they took the focus OFF of Fitzgerald early in halves in order to exploit the mismatches and attract the attention of the opponents' safeties---and THEN they start throwing it to Fitz. Even Jerhemy Urban was a main receiver in their offense if they saw they felt he could take the man who was guarding him. They made a star out of Steve Breaston within their mismatch schemes.

5. Just the whole way he manipulates the so-called competitions---like this past week. Look---if he wants Kolb to be the starter, fine---say so---stand by it. It's as if Whisenhunt feels like he has to show the world and the fans that he is justified in making his decision.

6. His constant nit-picking is what makes the offense tight as a drum---which is why they are mistake prone by interceptions, fumbles, etc.---because he has them THINKING too much.

7. His constant blaming of someone else---now to the point of calling out names in press-conferneces, or blaming Kolb's injury on the offensive line---the very offensive line that HE didn't build or coach properly.

8. His repeated game and clock management gaffes.

9. Deferring the coin tosses---even in the Hall of Fame Game where it makes absolutely NO sense. Some of you say this is a moot point---but here's my rebuttal. What was Whisenhunt's biggest criticism of John Skelton last year? Slow starts. Well, if you REALLY want to give the QB the optimum chance of getting off to a fast start---you don't FREEZE him on the sidelines if you have the choice. To me this propensity on Whisenhunt's part defines exactly what he is: an over-thinking, passive-aggressive coach---

10. No wonder that's what his teams typically are: over-thinking, passive-aggressive---that is until Ray Horton showed up. We are finally starting to see what it's like to have coach be aggressive-aggressive.

All this said, I think it's remarkable that in 5 years the Cardinals have had only 1 losing season under Whisenhunt. In some ways I am mystified by it, especially last year when I thought that for the past two years the players were throwing in the towel on him.

I might be wrong, but I think Ray Horton and the remarkable resolve of a vastly under-prepared (by Whisenhunt and the coaches) John Skelton were what changed the players' approach.

I think I would like the guy even more if he were a little ingenuous and forthcoming in his press conferences---but he is stone faced and thoroughly disingenuous most of the time.

There's just not a lot of charisma going on there.

But wait, Larry Fitzgerald loves Whisenhunt---so I and anyone else must be a complete buffoon to feel this way. My response to that is, yeah, if the head coach caters his offense around me and my input, yeah, I love the guy.

That's another reason why Whisenhunt's offense is QB unfriendly---the PRESSURE to get the ball to Fitzgerald is intense (in FACT the WHOLE FRANCHISE'S FOCUS ON FITZGERALD IS INTENSE---what, doesn't anyone think Adrian Wilson, Darnell Dockett and Paris Lenon would want to WIN A RING?

And the thing is about Fitz, as much as I ADORE him myself and wish they could throw to him every play, he quite frankly is not fast enough to beat double teams---which is EXACTLY why Warner and Haley focused the whole thing on mismatches and took them when they could get them from Fitz.

What I wish for in a head coach who oversees the offense:

1. An offense that takes what it is given and adapts to and has answers to pressure.

2. An offense that's plays to win---not in fear of losing or making mistakes.

3. A spirit and good sense of swag from the players on the field.

4. A sense of how to build it through personnel moves.

5. A coach and organization that reacts swiftly and promptly to setbacks---has there been any new tackle acquired yet? It's been 10 days since Levi was injured.

6. A coach who won't say something as inane as "the lopsided losses are easier to take---I just get made for a day and forget about it."

7. A coach who gets excited very now and then---one who can show true emotions---one who can fire players and fans up.

8. A coach whose play-calling is unpredictable and catered to how best to attack the given opponent.

9. A coach who won't seem vindictive or play head games with the players.

10. A coach who knows what it takes to keep his players motivated.

I know I know---call me a buffoon---remind me once again that I just wasted an hour writing this blog---on top of all the countless hours I've wasted stewing over this guy---I know, I know---we've seen far worse coaches, haven't we?

But, still---now is now and the same old same old is getting so annoying I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!
 
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"Here it is his 6th year, and only 1 time in his his 6 years have we known for sure who the starting QB was going to be come Game 1."
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With the crap QB's he has come up with, maybe it is better not to know.
 

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we've seen far worse coaches, haven't we?

Yeah, but is that an excuse to not improve ?

Right now, concerning Whiz, I just don't believe "The system works"

More times than not, it doesn't.
 

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FWIW, I think that Ken Whisenhunt is Top 5 in the NFL when it comes to charisma. After both Harbaugh brothers, Carroll, and Mike Tomlin, I'd put Whis right up there.

I think it's one of the reasons why it's been difficult for the franchise to be objective when dealing with Whis and convincing him to delegate some personnel authority. Having spoken with people inside the Hardy complex, I can say that he's enthralled a lot of people.
 

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FWIW, I think that Ken Whisenhunt is Top 5 in the NFL when it comes to charisma. After both Harbaugh brothers, Carroll, and Mike Tomlin, I'd put Whis right up there.

I think it's one of the reasons why it's been difficult for the franchise to be objective when dealing with Whis and convincing him to delegate some personnel authority. Having spoken with people inside the Hardy complex, I can say that he's enthralled a lot of people.

Charisma...... is that another word for "moxie"?? :D
 

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Engineers GOT no charisma.

They got plans.

And pocket protectors.

And TI calculators.

No charisma.
 

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C'mon Mitch, you really can't believe #4 is true. Haley and Warner didn't make up their own plays. They may have agreed on plays they liked throughout the week and ones they thought would be successful but they were plays within the offensive gameplan for that week and Whiz had to okay them. In fact, everything that was done, offensively, was done through Whiz. Also, I don't care how many times they would throw the ball to Urban, or any WR for that matter, the defense was not going to take their focus off of Fitz. If the Cards wanted to throw the ball to Urban rather than Fitz all game, the defense would say more power to them.
 

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Yeah, but is that an excuse to not improve ?

Right now, concerning Whiz, I just don't believe "The system works"

More times than not, it doesn't.

I am keeping it over there on the left until it actually DOES.

But here's the deal - last year the team had EVERY reason to give up on him, and you could smell it coming...and then they didn't. In fact, they worked harder, tried harder and won. He didn't lose the team, when by ALL rights he should have. The players still trust him, and that tells me I should **** about my Whisengripes. His atrocious handling of QB after QB after QB and basically bumbling his way into Ren-Warner (and tried to ef that up as well) is maddening, but he has NOT lost the team. He stays until he rights the ship, or loses the team completely.
 

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Yeah, but is that an excuse to not improve ?

Right now, concerning Whiz, I just don't believe "The system works"

More times than not, it doesn't.

Actually in his time here more times than not IT DOES! ;)
 
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C'mon Mitch, you really can't believe #4 is true. Haley and Warner didn't make up their own plays. They may have agreed on plays they liked throughout the week and ones they thought would be successful but they were plays within the offensive gameplan for that week and Whiz had to okay them. In fact, everything that was done, offensively, was done through Whiz. Also, I don't care how many times they would throw the ball to Urban, or any WR for that matter, the defense was not going to take their focus off of Fitz. If the Cards wanted to throw the ball to Urban rather than Fitz all game, the defense would say more power to them.

Wow, man...don't you remember that the flea-flicker to Fitz versus Carolina at Carolina was drawn up by Warner and Haley on the plane to Carolina?

Warner and Haley were like Lennon and McCartney---they ran the show. Warner was on his own like Lennon in "Imagine" the year after the Super Bowl, which is one of the major reasons why Warner left the band.

I am very surprised you haven't figured that out by now.
 

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Wow, man...don't you remember that the flea-flicker to Fitz versus Carolina at Carolina was drawn up by Warner and Haley on the plane to Carolina?

Warner and Haley were like Lennon and McCartney---they ran the show. Warner was on his own like Lennon in "Imagine" the year after the Super Bowl, which is one of the major reasons why Warner left the band.

I am very surprised you haven't figured that out by now.

Who cares? Any and everything still had to be approved by whiz..In fact Whiz in Pittsburgh was WELL KNOWN for his propensity to call gadget plays lest you forget and be perfect with the timing and be VERY successful with them.

Its still his offense!
 

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Engineers GOT no charisma.
There it is. Wiz is setting up situations in practice, games and playing field where he can effectively (& fairly) evaluate players and compare one with another.

He won't entirely go with his gut unless/until he has to.

But when backed up against the wall, he's gone with his gut before and pulled the trigger (because he's had to).

No criticism (or praise) for that - it's just his style.
 

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Engineers GOT no charisma.

I'm an engineer and I consider this a bannable offense!
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The definition of charisma is "a personal quality that gives an individual influence or authority over large numbers of people".

Now if you look at the last 1/3rd of that definition "Large numbers of People" you can see how Whiz is charismatic as defined by the following variables.

Currently 75 players on the roster (p)

Currently 17 coaches (c)

Currenly UOP stadium typically holds about 65000 fans (f) although about 25% of them root for the opposing team.

Currently there are about 25 disgruntled fans on ASFN (d) who don't like engineers.

So if you plug those numbers into the well know charisma equation:

((p+c+(f*.75)) - d) / (p+c+(f*.75))

you'll see that it is scientifically verifiable that over 99.99% of people find coach Whiz (who is an engineer) charismatic. Plus who wouldn't find an engineer charismatic to begin with?
 

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Yup. 10-6, 9-7, 8-8, 8-8 and four playoff victories vs. 2 losses say it does!
RejuvWarner + Whis

10-6
9-7
4 playoff victories

Whis + his hand selected gang of doofbags

8-8
8-8
5-11

Not counting 6-10 (this year, if we are lucky)

Overall - 39-39. The successful seasons heavily influced by Rejuv Warner and the last season heavily saved by a Rejuv Defense down the stretch and a sick PR who won two games by himself.

Sounds like the system is "meh" at best. Might be great with a good QB, but Whis has proven that evaluating QBs is most definitely NOT covered in "the system."
 

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Mitch, you have way too much time on your hands!! Let me make this simple. I've been a Cardinal fan since 1963. Until Whiz came along, I experienced ZERO, ZERO, ZERO, ZERO playoff wins! Coryell won 2 division titles, but got spanked in both playoff games. Whiz has 2 division titles, 4 playoff wins, an NFC Championship, and a SB appearance where we came within a hair of winning. This team LOVES him & plays their hearts out for him. Talk to me when that changes. Until then, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!
 
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Mitch, you have way too much time on your hands!! Let me make this simple. I've been a Cardinal fan since 1963. Until Whiz came along, I experienced ZERO, ZERO, ZERO, ZERO playoff wins! Coryell won 2 division titles, but got spanked in both playoff games. Whiz has 2 division titles, 4 playoff wins, an NFC Championship, and a SB appearance where we came within a hair of winning. This team LOVES him & plays their hearts out for him. Talk to me when that changes. Until then, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!

Were you at the same game I was? November 24, 1963? Cardinals versus Giants at Yankee Stadium? If you were so was Joe Maddon the manager of the Tampa Bay Rays, who says like I do, that he became a Cardinal fan for life there that day.

I was 8 years old.

What you said is what's so tantalizing for me---it makes me feel ungrateful---but I attribute the winning to the players like Kurt Warner and Fitz who finally made the Cardinals relevant, how dare me? If they love Whisenhunt it's because he runs a soft camp. That's what my instinct says, so I apologize if I am wrong.
 

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