Will Cards now get first choice of a QB in draft?

[DoTheDew]

We shouldn't let that happen then - we should move up ourselves.

That depends how our scouting department views Geno Smith (or whichever QB they expect might go in front of us).

You only trade up for a player if you think that guy is a perfect fit for your team IMO.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'd rather have Geno Smith than Barkley, but neither at 7. Sadly, I think Mike Bidwill is going to have a huge say in this. He's going to want to create a buzz to keep the sellouts coming. What better way than the promise and excitement of a new QB?

I hope these so called "Cardinal decisions" they are going to make will be related to the on-field product rather than the box office. Geno Smith may turn out to be a very good player but reaching for a player of need hasn't been too kind to the Cards.

Bidwill has said that every time the team has reached, it has turned out bad. I hope he remembers that come draft day because it's going to be easy to talk themselves into thinking a QB is the right choice at 7 when they will clearly be higher rated players available.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I am honestly getting a sneaking suspicion we're going to take a QB with our first pick (which won't be at 7). I just keep hearing Arians and Keim talking up Chance and the other lineman and I'm starting to just wonder if its bait for a team behind us in RD1 to trade back to.

I've also gotten the impression that Arians and staff believe they can coach and scheme virtually any QB. Only QB you can't do that with is an injury prone one, which is what we have.



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That is a huge problem with Kolb and another facet one cannot change dramatically is accuracy problems, you cannot coach that up and I do not care what anyone thinks contrary to that. If someone can give me some QBs with horrible accuracy in college who ever got better as a Pro, I want to know who they were

 

[JeffGollin]

That is a huge problem with Kolb and another facet one cannot change dramatically is accuracy problems..

I believe Our new HC has recently said that you can coach better accuracy through improved and more consistent footwork & mechanics.

 

[WildBB]

I'd rather have Geno Smith than Barkley, but neither at 7. Sadly, I think Mike Bidwill is going to have a huge say in this. He's going to want to create a buzz to keep the sellouts coming. What better way than the promise and excitement of a new QB?

I hope these so called "Cardinal decisions" they are going to make will be related to the on-field product rather than the box office. Geno Smith may turn out to be a very good player but reaching for a player of need hasn't been too kind to the Cards.

Bidwill has said that every time the team has reached, it has turned out bad. I hope he remembers that come draft day because it's going to be easy to talk themselves into thinking a QB is the right choice at 7 when they will clearly be higher rated players available.

And they need to remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. It's going to take a few drafts to turn this around again. They need to draft solidly for the long haul and not just for a yearly impact. That's setting the franchise up for failure.

Thus NO QB in the top 7! If they want to try and trade up, do it after the the #7. But not for picks the following year.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

You honestly think BA trusts Kolb (mr injured) or the other clowns we have.

Cards take Geno if he's there.

I expect the Bills to trade up to the Raiders slot and take him ahead of us.

Then the Raidaaaaas take Star or Floyd

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I would take Eugene, but if the Jets are hungry enough for him do the trade.

Geno would not be a good pick for the Jets. He plays bad in bad weather. I

would love to pick up an extra third

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Wouldn't be surprised if Raiders take him at all.

I think they are a QB needy team that people just aren't talking about.

I think the Raiders grab him and people will say that Al Davis is looking

down with a big smile. I could also see the offensive lunatic in Philly

grabbing him as well

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I believe Our new HC has recently said that you can coach better accuracy through improved and more consistent footwork & mechanics.[/quote


Clearly we are going to draft Tyler Bray at 38

 

[WildBB]

I think there could be some movement in the top of the draft this year.

Someone will take a flyer on Smith or Barkley depending on his pro day showing.

 

[JeffGollin]

We could conceivably have first pick of all QB's and still opt for "none of the above."

 

[MWOOD92]

Well hopefully our 1st choice is in the 2nd round.

 

[GatorAZ]

It sounds like Arians and Co haven't even spoken with Kolb yet so the QB we draft must be NFL ready. Me thinks Geno, Barkley and Wilson are the only ones who can start as rookies. Bray, Manuel and Glennon not so much Glennon started pretty much his entire college career but his decision making is not so good.

 

[JeffGollin]

It sounds like Arians and Co haven't even spoken with Kolb yet so the QB we draft must be NFL ready. Me thinks Geno, Barkley and Wilson are the only ones who can start as rookies. Bray, Manuel and Glennon not so much Glennon started pretty much his entire college career but his decision making is not so good.

I wouldn't read too much into the lack of contact between Arians & his coaches and Kolb.

I'm no lawyer and don't mean to nitpick, but I believe coaches are not allowed to talk to players. If true, my guess is that the only meaningful contact would have be between Keim or Licht and Kolb's agent, and we don't know what the story is there.

 

[john h]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Chiefs traded second-round pick, the second pick in the second round, to SF. Niners also got another conditional mid-round pick in 2014
for qb Alex Smith.
Scott Wright ‏@DraftCountdown
Now that the #Chiefs are out of the mix for West Virginia QB Geno Smith where does he land? #Jaguars? #Raiders? #Cardinals? #Bills?

The Cards may get first crack at any qb on the board. The problem is if any are worth the #7 pick??

I really do not think so. Thee will be some team who will trade up over us to take the first QB IMHO. No scientific reason just my thought. Hopefully it will be a team that does not want the same QB we do. I am sure the team drafting just behind us are wondering about who the Cards are going to take. I believe they want a QB.

 

[john h]

I wouldn't read too much into the lack of contact between Arians & his coaches and Kolb.

I'm no lawyer and don't mean to nitpick, but I believe coaches are not allowed to talk to players. If true, my guess is that the only meaningful contact would have be between Keim or Licht and Kolb's agent, and we don't know what the story is there.

I do not not know what the law says on this Jeff but to me it makes sense to me that an potential employer should have the right to talk to any potential employee. The employer should be able to send who ever he wants to talk to him. Of course the employee has the right to refuse to talk to anyone he chooses. If I am a player I would want to talk to anyone who might move me higher in the draft. This is just my thought and based on nothing.

 

[john h]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Chiefs traded second-round pick, the second pick in the second round, to SF. Niners also got another conditional mid-round pick in 2014
for qb Alex Smith.
Scott Wright ‏@DraftCountdown
Now that the #Chiefs are out of the mix for West Virginia QB Geno Smith where does he land? #Jaguars? #Raiders? #Cardinals? #Bills?

The Cards may get first crack at any qb on the board. The problem is if any are worth the #7 pick??

The only real way to know if a QB in this group is worth a #7 pick is to draft him. Everything else is just conjecture. As is often said a #1 pick in the NFL is the largest roll of the dice in sports. Do we play it safe, sit in the stands, and draft what all the experts say is the BPA or do we jump in the arena and go for the gold? Leinart was a safe pick and we supposedly got a steal. Did we overlook his playboy ways? He was a big good looking kid who had won award after football award. He was invited to all the big Hollywood parties. Then he is suddenly a mufti-millionaire. It takes a committed player to suddenly turn into a football workout freak and try and be the best you can be. Could anyone see that coming? Should they have seen that coming? I read that RGIII is the first to arrive at workouts and the last to leave. I never read anything like that about Leinart. He seems to have been a victim of his own success in college. Maybe if he ha gone to some school in Tulsa he would not have been exposed to alll the glitter and have taken his NFL football more seriously. At least he can say I am rich.

 

[Chopper0080]

Wouldn't be surprised if Raiders take him at all.

I think they are a QB needy team that people just aren't talking about.

I agree with this, and without a 2nd round pick I could totally see them jumping on Smith if he drops. Decent offensive weapons to work with in Oakland as well.

 

[john h]

I hope they don't blow this draft by reaching for a mediocre QB. That said, somebody's gotta do it. I guess.

Build the defense and the running game. Spend 2013 beating people up on our way to a .500 record, then address QB next year.

I also hope they do not blow this and pass on the next Peyton Manning. I think we have more suspense in this draft than any in the past decade. At least half of our posters are going to be disappointed and the other half will think we could have done better. What if we trade out of the 1st round and go for quantity?

 

[john h]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Chiefs traded second-round pick, the second pick in the second round, to SF. Niners also got another conditional mid-round pick in 2014
for qb Alex Smith.
Scott Wright ‏@DraftCountdown
Now that the #Chiefs are out of the mix for West Virginia QB Geno Smith where does he land? #Jaguars? #Raiders? #Cardinals? #Bills?

The Cards may get first crack at any qb on the board. The problem is if any are worth the #7 pick??

Anyone that can definitively answer that would be a GM in the NFL?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I hope they don't blow this draft by reaching for a mediocre QB. That said, somebody's gotta do it. I guess.

Build the defense and the running game. Spend 2013 beating people up on our way to a .500 record, then address QB next year.

+1

 

[RugbyMuffin]

What I got out of this post, was that in the 2nd round of this draft, the Chiefs will not be in front of us.

2nd Round

33 - Jaguars
34 - Niners
35 - Eagles
36 - Lions
37 - Bengals
38 - Cardinals

If we are looking to get a QB early in round two, the Jags are the only team that will be doing the same.

 

[Totally_Red]

What I got out of this post, was that in the 2nd round of this draft, the Chiefs will not be in front of us.

2nd Round

33 - Jaguars
34 - Niners
35 - Eagles
36 - Lions
37 - Bengals
38 - Cardinals

If we are looking to get a QB early in round two, the Jags are the only team that will be doing the same.

Though I'm adamantly opposed to picking (reaching for) Geno Smith at #7 overall, if the Cardinals really like him and the cost is reasonable, they should trade back up into the bottom of the first round for him.

The advantage of taking a quarterback in the FIRST round (according to NFLN analyst Mike Tannenbaum) is you can sign them to a FIVE-year contract instead of just four years. Of course, that is something of a disadvantage if they turn out to be a bust.

 

[Solar7]

Though I'm adamantly opposed to picking (reaching for) Geno Smith at #7 overall, if the Cardinals really like him and the cost is reasonable, they should trade back up into the bottom of the first round for him.

The advantage of taking a quarterback in the FIRST round (according to NFLN analyst Mike Tannenbaum) is you can sign them to a FIVE-year contract instead of just four years. Of course, that is something of a disadvantage if they turn out to be a bust.

I just don't understand why people think the consensus #1 QB in this draft is going to drop into the 20s or further. There's some warts on these guys, but Geno will likely go before 15, and I'll guarantee before 20 unless something really really major comes to light in the next few weeks. I'd place an avatar bet on it.

 

[ARZCardinals]

I believe Our new HC has recently said that you can coach better accuracy through improved and more consistent footwork & mechanics.

I 100% disagree

Look at every QB the Cards have had the past 4 years....everyone of them MIRRORS their college percentage or lower.

Completion percentage means EVERYTHING to me. It proves the QB gets the ball to the WR in a catchable place. Throw and Catch...that' s ALL that matters.

I don't care if he's 6'5'' or 5'6''. If a QB can prove they can hit the wr at 60% or higher...I'll take a look. Anything...and I mean anything lower in percentages I don't want.

Geno Smith last year was 70%....that's AMAZING for college ball. He's never been below 60%. Look at Geno's tape - WOW he not only hist his WR he hits them in the chest. Reminds me a ton of Warner. The ball is thrown where the WR can not only catch it, but make a move. I'd give our 3rd round pick to move up to the Raiders spot to get Geno.

He'd be my pick and I'd run it all the way to the commish as I danced.