Will Suns make a move before the trade deadline?

[1Sun]

I don't like Ingram. He is not really a power forward. Randle or Mirotic would be better for our team.

Here we agree.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Gambo pushing a Ball for TJ, Josh, or Mikal along with picks trade on Twitter.

Am I going nuts? I wouldn't give up a 2nd for Lonzo. He's hugely overrated.

that's the issue the pro-Baller's are ignoring
despite his flaws, reasonable posters who believe he has potential
only want him if he can be had cheap
and that's not happening.

Magic and Lebron have been quiet about Ball only because he's been a key trade asset since Lebron joined the Lakers. Lebron wants players hungry for a championship

anyone who believes we should lose either TJ, Mikal, or Josh to the Lakers for a Lonzo rental should move to La La Land because it's playing right into the Lakers hands

 

[slinslin]

man... you'd give up our unprotected first, bucks pick and Warren/Jackson for Ball/Ingram? That seems like a LOT. And that's coming from someone who loved Lonzo coming out of college.

I think Ingram is worth a lot more than Ball and will be a modern PF themore his frame fills out.

He is substantially bigger than any of our wings

 

[Proximo]

that's the issue the pro-Baller's are ignoring
despite his flaws, reasonable posters who believe he has potential
only want him if he can be had cheap
and that's not happening.

Magic and Lebron have been quiet about Ball only because he's been a key trade asset since Lebron joined the Lakers. Lebron wants players hungry for a championship

anyone who believes we should lose either TJ, Mikal, or Josh to the Lakers for a Lonzo rental should move to La La Land because it's playing right into the Lakers hands

Warren is cheap - but not that cheap. If Lonzo is saying he will not be happy in New Orleans - they have to move him to make the deal. I doubt they can do better than Warren and Okobo on short notice.

 

[1Sun]

Warren is cheap - but not that cheap. If Lonzo is saying he will not be happy in New Orleans - they have to move him to make the deal. I doubt they can do better than Warren and Okobo on short notice.

I'd rather have Holiday for Warren, Okobo/Melton, filler and the Bucks pick.

 

[Proximo]

that's the issue the pro-Baller's are ignoring
despite his flaws, reasonable posters who believe he has potential
only want him if he can be had cheap
and that's not happening.

Magic and Lebron have been quiet about Ball only because he's been a key trade asset since Lebron joined the Lakers. Lebron wants players hungry for a championship

anyone who believes we should lose either TJ, Mikal, or Josh to the Lakers for a Lonzo rental should move to La La Land because it's playing right into the Lakers hands

They are not going to the lakers. The rumor is Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac and a first have been offered for Davis. We are Taking Ball, and sending Warren to the pelicans instead.

We don't need 4 wings. Replacing one for a Power forward is what we need. Do you really think Oubre, Bridges and Jackson taking over Warrens minutes makes us worse - I don't.

 

[Proximo]

I'd rather have Holiday for Warren, Okobo/Melton, filler and the Bucks pick.

So would I, but it does not sound like the Pelicans want to move him.

 

[1Sun]

They are not going to the lakers. The rumor is Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac and a first have been offered for Davis. We are Taking Ball, and sending Warren to the pelicans instead.

We don't need 4 wings. Replacing one for a Power forward is what we need. Do you really think Oubre, Bridges and Jackson taking over Warrens minutes makes us worse - I don't.

No, but a disgruntled, entitled and lazy Ball taking over the point not only makes us worse but sets us up for a major implosion.

Again, if you thought the impact of Ariza this year and of Bledsoe at the beginning of last year was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet...

 

[Proximo]

I think Ingram is worth a lot more than Ball and will be a modern PF themore his frame fills out.

He is substantially bigger than any of our wings

Taller, but dude is a twig. Can't rebound worth squat either. He does not fit with the rest of our players.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And thus would end, or delay, the Suns need for a functional (not a Hollywood) Point Guard to help get the most out of Booker and Ayton. That is the negative!

The longer that is delayed, the closer it comes to Booker announcing that he wants to be traded. Which will ruin any chance of Ayton wanting to remain here.

I don’t understand from your post if you’re pro- or anti-ball.

 

[sdscard4]

Not one article says he's disgruntled....entitled or for Christ sakes lazy. We get you hate him but the rhetoric is so far from the truth...it actually says there is interest from Phx and Ball. But you ignore that cause it doesn't fit your narrative

 

[1tinsoldier]

though we all ready have the 3rd most disappointing pick in the 2017 draft in JJ,
we and the Suns are debating what asset to sacrifice for Lonzo,
the 2nd most disappointing pick in the 2017 draft,
(while Cuban is snapping up one of the top players in the league for parts)

i'd actually prefer to go for the #1 most disappointing pick in the 2017 draft in Fultz
and give up less
if we've got our hearts set on disappointment

 

[sdscard4]

though we all ready have the 3rd most disappointing pick in the 2017 draft in JJ,
we and the Suns are debating what asset to sacrifice for Lonzo,
the 2nd most disappointing pick in the 2017 draft,
(while Cuban is snapping up one of the top players in the league for parts)

i'd actually prefer to go for the #1 most disappointing pick in the 2017 draft in Fultz
and give up less
if we've got our hearts set on disappointment

2nd most disappointing pick ? Where are you guys coming up with this crap

 

[sdscard4]

You 2 have to be related or something

 

[Proximo]

2nd most disappointing pick ? Where are you guys coming up with this crap

Didn't you get the message. Players must be near all stars half way through their second season or they are a disappointment.

So I guess in the 2017 draft only Fox, Tatum, Mitchell and maybe Kuzma have any value according to him.

 

[1tinsoldier]

so, based on expectations, who is more disappointing than 3 of those top 4 picks?
(Fultz, Ball, and Josh, in that order imo)

 

[1tinsoldier]

Didn't you get the message. Players must be near all stars half way through their second season or they are a disappointment.

So I guess in the 2017 draft only Fox, Tatum, Mitchell and maybe Kuzma have any value according to him.

didn't you get the memo about annoyingly distorted, hyperbolic, straw-man arguments?

 

[Proximo]

didn't you get the memo about annoyingly distorted, hyperbolic, straw-man arguments?

Actually I am just responding in direct opposite proportion to your ludicrous post. Trying to make a point that I guess went over your head.

 

[1tinsoldier]

2nd most disappointing pick ? Where are you guys coming up with this crap

talk about crap!

Ball was a very highly hyped #2 pick and now everyone is talking about trading him for JJ who i'm sure you'd admit is a disappointing #4 pick so far, or this draft's #10 pick, or TJ Warren

think before you antagonize

 

[1tinsoldier]

Actually I am just responding in direct opposite proportion to your ludicrous post. Trying to make a point that I guess went over your head.

if my post was so ludicrous that it warranted you being insulting
(twice now)
then again i ask

based on expectations, who is more disappointing than 3 of those top 4 picks?
(Fultz, Ball, and Josh)

 

[Proximo]

so, based on expectations, who is more disappointing than 3 of those top 4 picks?
(Fultz, Ball, and Josh, in that order imo)

You could make arguments for Jonathan Isaac, Frank Ntilkina, Zach Collins or 20 other players that contribute next to nothing or actually nothing.

I get those guys were picked high but I do not buy in the least that they have shown nothing, or that they will not improve. On the contrary Ball and Jackson have shown they belong in the NBA.

 

[sdscard4]

talk about crap!

Ball was a very highly hyped #2 pick and now everyone is talking about trading him for JJ who i'm sure you'd admit is a disappointing #4 pick so far, or this draft's #10 pick, or TJ Warren

think before you antagonize

Because he doesn't want to play in NO . You know dang well he's being traded for AD. Think before you try to get people to buy your garbage

 

[1tinsoldier]

You could make arguments for Jonathan Isaac, Frank Ntilkina, Zach Collins or 20 other players that contribute next to nothing or actually nothing.

no i couldn't. only you could try to make that argument

 

[Proximo]

no i couldn't. only you could try to make that argument

So a player that gets zero playing time, or who is no longer in the nba is not more disappointing than a slightly below avg starting PG.

Let me put in in suns terms - do you not consider Chriss a bigger disappointment than Jackson? Pretty sure nearly all suns fans would agree Chriss is the bigger disappointment.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Because he doesn't want to play in NO . You know dang well he's being traded for AD. Think before you try to get people to buy your garbage

you talked about "crap"?
now you're talking about "garbage"?

and saying the only reason the Lakers might consider a low-ball offer from the lowly Suns is because their 2nd year disappointment (and his father) has dictated he doesn't want to go to NO?

man, you really did buy into the Lonzo hype

stop wasting my time with your pro-Ball bullsh@t (a step lower than crap & garbage)