Will Suns make a move before the trade deadline?

[AzStevenCal]

Booker's frustration should be a cause for concern.

This is like the 10th post I've read recently talking about his frustration, what did I miss? All I was aware of was his reaction to the elbow the other night which just seemed like a normal thing to me.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This is like the 10th post I've read recently talking about his frustration, what did I miss? All I was aware of was his reaction to the elbow the other night which just seemed like a normal thing to me.

Agreed. A lot of people read something insidious into every little detail. When a player actually comes out and says “our leadership has to do something different” I’ll believe there’s smoke. Right now we have a 22 year old who’s about to see more than he’s likely ever dreamed of making. But yeah, he’s disgruntled. Meh.

 

[Mainstreet]

This is like the 10th post I've read recently talking about his frustration, what did I miss? All I was aware of was his reaction to the elbow the other night which just seemed like a normal thing to me.

I'm sure you have seen Booker getting technical fouls out of frustration, his unhappiness with losing and of course taking a long shower with the team after the Denver game.

However, there are many other sports writers who have noticed it as well. Here are a couple of examples but this is only what I have read today.

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[AzStevenCal]

So yeah, Booker, Oubre, Jackson and others don't like losing. I understand that, I don't understand the "oh my god, Booker is going to demand a trade" kind of talk that some of these posts are talking around if not actually talking about. For myself, I'd be livid if Booker and company were happy or content with the current state of affairs.

 

[Mainstreet]

So yeah, Booker, Oubre, Jackson and others don't like losing. I understand that, I don't understand the "oh my god, Booker is going to demand a trade" kind of talk that some of these posts are talking around if not actually talking about. For myself, I'd be livid if Booker and company were happy or content with the current state of affairs.

I don't think Booker is going to want out this season. Hopefully he can see the end of the season nearing. However, if the Suns are not on track next season I can see his frustration getting unbearable.

It takes only one moment of frustration for him to ask out. It's hard to put the genie back in the bottle once it happens.

 

[1tinsoldier]

look. Booker had 35 last night and the Suns lost by 37
we know the Suns wouldn't have lost by 72 if he hadn't played.
it's possible they might have lost by less than 37 without him

the point is -- we're paying him max money and maybe we should start wondering how much better he makes this team
and do less worrying about keeping him happy

we know Booker, Ayton and TJ are not an effective starting unit.
maybe look at some options for trading him for a stud that works better with the other pieces of our roster,
instead of the reverse

 

[BC867]

look. Booker had 35 last night and the Suns lost by 37
we know the Suns wouldn't have lost by 72 if he hadn't played.
it's possible they might have lost by less than 37 without him

the point is -- we're paying him max money and maybe we should start wondering how much better he makes this team
and do less worrying about keeping him happy

we know Booker, Ayton and TJ are not an effective starting unit.
maybe look at some options for trading him for a stud that works better with the other pieces of our roster,
instead of the reverse

I wouldn't recommend trading Booker. Just return him to his position at Shooting Guard, where he could excel, be of great value to the team (even with his mediocre defense) and be able to stay healthy and earn himself All Star consideration. He desperately needs to be fed, rather than be the feeder.

It is up to management to make that a priority. All is takes is one Point Guard better than the options we have now. That is hardly an overwhelming task. Perhaps if we had a GM not carrying the title of Temporary. That is the vicious cycle.

 

[Proximo]

Look I know things seem bleak - but actually I see some reasons for optimism.

For the first time ever, I actually like the way Jackson is playing. He is actually going to work out, and he has excellent potential to get much better from here on out.

Oubre is actually playing efficiently. We seem to have lucked into a young guy who seems to want to be a Sun and is actually a core piece.

As far as I can see the team has two main problems that are contributing consistently to our losses.

1. By far our biggest problem is lack of rebounding. This is not really that bad of a problem to have, it can be solved with a few simple personel moves.
2. Our three point shooting is subpar. For some reason we are having a really hard time making open 3's that our opponents seem to be able to make at a regular clip. The good news is this is likely to improve. Booker and Bridges are both having off years for their ability, and Jackson is rapidly improving, and I expect next years PG to also be superior to our current options.

 

[Chaplin]

Thon Maker has asked for a trade. Skinny as a pole but a legit 7-footer, but granted I don’t know much about him.

He wants more playing tome and theoretically if he’s spotted as a PF, Suns might be one of his best options for that.

 

[1Sun]

Thon Maker has asked for a trade. Skinny as a pole but a legit 7-footer, but granted I don’t know much about him.

He wants more playing tome and theoretically if he’s spotted as a PF, Suns might be one of his best options for that.

Was about to post this. Would Troy Daniels and the Suns' second round pick be enough?

 

[Dan H]

Thon Maker has asked for a trade. Skinny as a pole but a legit 7-footer, but granted I don’t know much about him.

He wants more playing tome and theoretically if he’s spotted as a PF, Suns might be one of his best options for that.

Came to post this as well. Wonder if Milwaukee would be interested in a package returning their pick along with say Warren.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Came to post this as well. Wonder if Milwaukee would be interested in a package returning their pick along with say Warren.

For Thon Maker? I wouldn't have thought to even give them their pick back let alone include Warren. Is he really worth more than a 2nd round pick?

 

[1Sun]

The only way I consider giving up Warren or the Bucks pick in a trade for Maker is if an extended Brogdon were included in the return.

 

[Mainstreet]

As mentioned, I think Daniels and a second round pick should get it done for Maker.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't think Booker is going to want out this season. Hopefully he can see the end of the season nearing. However, if the Suns are not on track next season I can see his frustration getting unbearable.

It takes only one moment of frustration for him to ask out. It's hard to put the genie back in the bottle once it happens.

Man a lot you must make fear-based decisions.

 

[95pro]

Booker is either a bonehead or frustrated. Or both given his actions on and off the court.

Bonehead for picking up stupid technicals and fouls. Frustrated with the team and/or organization to pick up stupid techs.

I’ll take a passive person over what book is doing right now. The guy is in no position to be pulling this crap, he’s proven nothing.

I don’t care if he’s a young person. He’s an adult making millions, a public figure and PROFESSIONAL athlete. We have every right to be critical of him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Came to post this as well. Wonder if Milwaukee would be interested in a package returning their pick along with say Warren.

That’s an overpay

 

[BC867]

Booker is either a bonehead or frustrated. Or both given his actions on and off the court.

Bonehead for picking up stupid technicals and fouls. Frustrated with the team and/or organization to pick up stupid techs.

I’ll take a passive person over what book is doing right now. The guy is in no position to be pulling this crap, he’s proven nothing.

I don’t care if he’s a young person. He’s an adult making millions, a public figure and PROFESSIONAL athlete. We have every right to be critical of him.

Unless, as an insider, he has the scoop on just how handcuffed the Suns are under the status quo.

Devin Booker has proven himself to be an intelligent young man. It is why the team has put so much weight on his shoulders at a young age. They must have taken that into account. And he allowed himself to become the face of the organization.

Perhaps Book sees no light at the end of the tunnel and knows that his dreams of success, and those of his teammates (most of them young), are empty without major changes.

And perhaps he is kicking himself for signing the contract. I suspect his frustration with the organization goes way past something as simple as picking up technical fouls.

As you said, frustrated with the organization. We are, and we're not part of it. Employees of Sears/KMart had a lot more of themselves invested than shoppers of Sears and Kmart.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Booker is either a bonehead or frustrated. Or both given his actions on and off the court.

Bonehead for picking up stupid technicals and fouls. Frustrated with the team and/or organization to pick up stupid techs.

I’ll take a passive person over what book is doing right now. The guy is in no position to be pulling this crap, he’s proven nothing.

I don’t care if he’s a young person. He’s an adult making millions, a public figure and PROFESSIONAL athlete. We have every right to be critical of him.

Nice job of making a mountain out of a molehill. Do you want to list the pro athletes that have impregnated someone. Better yet, save your time and list the ones that haven't. And yeah, Booker and the team have picked up a bunch of technicals of late. I wonder why. There's something like 30 players with 6 or more technicals, we have 3 of them. Booker has 8, that is clearly too many, although I don't know if that includes the one that's being rescinded. Ever since the last time TJ went ballistic with the refs they've been handing out T's to us for just about any reaction. So, no surprise, Jackson, Booker and Oubre are all among the T leaders.

 

[Mainstreet]

Man a lot you must make fear-based decisions.

I'm not ready for five more years of yuck. I doubt if Booker is either.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

This franchise will not be a legitimate NBA team until Robert Sarver no longer owns the team. Don’t waste your time or money

 

[BC867]

Devin Booker might very well feel betrayed. I picture a scenario where he was told the future of the Suns would be rosy, he would be an All Star and the team would move up in the standings. I can empathize!

In the 1960’s, after college, I was one of fifteen management trainees to join a successful catalog company of 400+ employees. Then the founder retired after forty years and his son took over. During my second year, he told the whole management team that, due to holiday sales, we would all be working straight through from Thanksgiving to Christmas. No days off. Not to do our jobs, but to go pack orders in the warehouse every Sunday and with no extra compensation. We stood by our company and did it, although our families were not happy about it.

The following year, in November, it was announced that we would all be doing the same again. The owner had made no plans to hire a part-time second shift. We in junior management were in a spot, afraid that if we resigned, we would get bad references from our first full-time job.

Luckily, middle and senior management told the President, “Your father would have never done this to his management team.” and they refused. He had no choice but to then do the right thing, set up a second shift during the week and hire temps. The Executive Vice President resigned shortly thereafter. I left after five years, satisfied that it would no longer look bad on my resume.

Devin Booker accepted becoming the face of the Suns. He was even told he would be involved in trade discussions. Remember? I wonder if he is now saying, “Jerry Colangelo would never have let things get so out of hand.”

It is said that when his Diamondbacks won the Championship, Jerry felt bad that he never led the Suns to one. I expect he feels worse that he turned the team over to Robert Sarver. Only two finals appearances in fifty years is bad enough. Becoming the embarrassment of the league and threatening to move the team are disgusting. I have never met Robert Sarver, but I just don't trust him, based on his public behavior.

 

[Hoop Head]

Devin Booker might very well feel betrayed. I picture a scenario where he was told the future of the Suns would be rosy, he would be an All Star and the team would move up in the standings. I can empathize!

In the 1960’s, after college, I was one of fifteen management trainees to join a successful catalog company of 400+ employees. Then the founder retired after forty years and his son took over. During my second year, he told the whole management team that, due to holiday sales, we would all be working straight through from Thanksgiving to Christmas. No days off. Not to do our jobs, but to go pack orders in the warehouse every Sunday and with no extra compensation. We stood by our company and did it, although our families were not happy about it.

The following year, in November, it was announced that we would all be doing the same again. The owner had made no plans to hire a part-time second shift. We in junior management were in a spot, afraid that if we resigned, we would get bad references from our first full-time job.

Luckily, middle and senior management told the President, “Your father would have never done this to his management team.” and they refused. He had no choice but to then do the right thing, set up a second shift during the week and hire temps. The Executive Vice President resigned shortly thereafter. I left after five years, satisfied that it would no longer look bad on my resume.

Devin Booker accepted becoming the face of the Suns. He was even told he would be involved in trade discussions. Remember? I wonder if he is now saying, “Jerry Colangelo would never have let things get so out of hand.”

It is said that when his Diamondbacks won the Championship, Jerry felt bad that he never led the Suns to one. I expect he feels worse that he turned the team over to Robert Sarver. Only two finals appearances in fifty years is bad enough. Becoming the embarrassment of the league and threatening to move the team are disgusting. I have never met Robert Sarver, but I just don't trust him, based on his public behavior.

Yes, Devin Booker is pining for the days when Colangelo owned the Suns. That has to one of the most ridiculous comments you've ever made and that is saying something. Booker was 8 years old when Sarver bought the Suns and he grew up as a fan of the Pistons since he was born and raised in Michigan. I don't think any 8 year old keeps up with ownership changes in sports, especially when it doesn't concern a team they are a fan of.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns to sign Emmanuel Terry to a ten day contract.

He is a 22 year old 6'9" power forward.

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[Mainstreet]

I found some background information on Terry.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Emanuel-Terry/Summary/84252

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Terry