Winslow gets a nice block!

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wallyburger said:
Winslow

1 reception 10 yards, got knocked on his can, caused 15 yd. personal foul penalty to ruin scoring chance, got scolded on sideline, will practice this week and play next week.

Fitzgerald

1 reception 5 yards, sprained his ankle, will not practice this week, will not play next week, may be back ????????????? whenever.

Steven Jackson 15 carries 73 yards . Looking good.

Eli Manning looked real good behind that bad line.

Sean Taylor played like Superman.

Gallery I don't know.

Redraft Please

Gallery and manning were gone so no sense debating them. gallery gave up a sack(and got a hold on the same play) apparently he doesn't know all the linecalls yet and missed the call and blocked the wrong man.

Jackson would have been way too high at 3, the only logical guy at 3 would have been Taylor or Ben, and even ben it was possibly too high given where he ultimately went.

I DO think you're writing off Fitz too quickly, he may not be the next Rice(who is?) but I do think he'll be a fine NFL Wr, he's just not going to have the numbers Quan did but we went 4-12 with those numbers.

I also think people are completely overlooking that last year Quan(and BJ) had Jeff Blake, as poorly as he played towards the end, there's no question he played a HUGE part in their development, they both said so repeatedly last year. the only veteran QB now is King, so Fitz hasn't had teh same situation where he could grow with a veteran QB.
 

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BuckeyeCardinal said:
I really dislike Winslow Jr. as a person.

But in his defense....the Browns didn't draft him to block. He's actually someone I would play at WR.

I hope Winslow fails.

But, this play is meaningless. He gets blindsided on a return by a guy who has about 60 lbs on him. Big deal. That has nothing to do with skill.
 

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Russ Smith said:
Gallery and manning were gone so no sense debating them. gallery gave up a sack(and got a hold on the same play) apparently he doesn't know all the linecalls yet and missed the call and blocked the wrong man.

Jackson would have been way too high at 3, the only logical guy at 3 would have been Taylor or Ben, and even ben it was possibly too high given where he ultimately went.

I DO think you're writing off Fitz too quickly, he may not be the next Rice(who is?) but I do think he'll be a fine NFL Wr, he's just not going to have the numbers Quan did but we went 4-12 with those numbers.

I also think people are completely overlooking that last year Quan(and BJ) had Jeff Blake, as poorly as he played towards the end, there's no question he played a HUGE part in their development, they both said so repeatedly last year. the only veteran QB now is King, so Fitz hasn't had teh same situation where he could grow with a veteran QB.


We went through all of these machinations for 6 months. I am not writing Fitz off, but I would sure as hell rather eat crow if he had started off like most predicted he would. All World and Superman. Well he is more like I said he was and less like others said he was. So that makes him a question mark from the draft and us contrarians have something to talk about in the meantime. Many people on this board had him All Pro All Rookie Hall of Fame lock. So far he is All Money. Show me the game.
 

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Winslow levels Roosevelt Williams during drill
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BEREA - Coach Butch Davis said his team needs to ``dial it up'' in practice. Kellen Winslow Jr. was listening.

He dialed; Roosevelt Williams rang.

In the first practice after Saturday's 24-3 preseason loss to the Tennessee Titans, the Browns' rookie tight end sent a message during a seven-on-seven drill. Winslow, taking part in just his third practice since signing a $40 million contract last week, caught a pass from quarterback Kelly Holcomb on a crossing route. The defense wasn't tackling and wasn't in full pads, but Winslow lowered his shoulder and leveled cornerback Williams as he came up to touch him down.

It was probably the most shocking hit of training camp, thus far, in part because of its ferocity and in part because it was unexpected during the limited-contact drill.

The instant reaction from the fans gathered at the training facility was excitement. The reaction from Winslow's teammates and coaches was a little more mixed.

``I think it was very unprofessional,'' said Williams, a three-year veteran. ``For him to lower his shoulder, I mean I'm looking out for him. I was in (zone), I see him before he sees me. But it's football, if you are going to play like that, play every day.''

There was no immediate reaction from Winslow. Like last Saturday after he was flagged for a personal foul, team officials did not permit the media to ask Winslow questions.

But in the wake of the loss to Tennessee, when the team admittedly came out soft, some other Browns saw the fiery hit as a positive step.

``Kellen Winslow only has one speed and I love that about him, that's what we need,'' defensive tackle Gerard Warren said. ``I told him to keep doing what you're doing, just because someone else isn't going your speed doesn't mean you're going out of practice tempo. We love that attitude, it is something extra in a good way.

``It is up to Roosevelt to protect himself on the field. If you got knocked on your (backside), wouldn't you think it was unprofessional? In that case, Roosevelt might've been going through the motions.''

Davis, who took some of the blame for his team being a little flat Saturday because practice wasn't at a high enough tempo, was more diplomatic than Warren. But his point was essentially the same.

``Yep, it was OK. I don't think he intentionally zeroed out Roosevelt Williams and attacked his manhood. I think maybe it just surprised Roosevelt a little bit that he was going to play at that level,'' Davis said. ``You have to play fast, whether you have any pads on or not.''

Winslow was known for his voracious habits when at the University of Miami and is perhaps serving notice that he intends to bring it with him to the next level. It might also be a response to the challenges of his teammates, who have been bringing him up to speed in rookie hazing since his arrival.

The hit nearly spawned the first fight of what has been a generally benign camp, but Williams saved it for another day.

``When I was laying on the ground there was a lot of things going through my head. I thought about my family, thought about my wife and I was professional and just went to the huddle,'' Williams said. ``But we've got a long season, that won't be the last we'll see of him. It's nothing personal, I just see how it is now.''
 
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