Most Centers in the league start at Guard. It's normal for them to get up to speed there before playing at C.
Wk 18 Arizona Cardinals off season thread. 05/8/23-5/14/23
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Most Centers in the league start at Guard. It's normal for them to get up to speed there before playing at C.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
I don't have a problem with him playing. He's probably the only guy on the roster that might--and that's tentative--have a shot at showing out eventually at the position. My only concern is that we get some marginal center play out of him and the team thinks we can skate without truly addressing the position. That's not to say he can't become the center we need--wouldn't it be nice! It'll just be hard to see unless he's dynamite there.
CardNots
ASFN Lifer
Dude, you have really penned some good stuff lately…
thank you for putting in the extra effort in laying out your thoughts and reasoning
Most centers take years to be good. Even some of the best ones in the league. It's rare to be great year 1.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Agreed. I think it puts the center position in a similar situation to our QB situation, while noting the clear differences in position. KM is in a tough spot because he needs to prove out and will have limited opportunity/time to do so this season, potentially. Gaines or whomever starts needs to prove out early on, or face being replaced in the lineup next offseason. It's a bit of a catch 22. If he shows promise, we could stick with him, ignore addressing the position, and hope he develops. On the other hand, it can just as easily backfire because we end up putting too much faith in a later-round youngster who we hope can transition and become a solid starting pro. That's why Monti, Gannon, and co get paid the big bucks, to figure this out. I hope they do it well.
What I don't want to see is marginal or okay-ish play from Gaines only for him to be hailed our center of the future. The optimal but unrealistic outcome is that he simply nails down the spot, unequivocally. That's best case. Worst case is that he bombs. If he does do okay-ish, I still want the position addressed. I'd rather have too much talent there than maybe not enough.
At a position that has been ignored in the draft for years we need to solidify the C position
I'm also in favor of drafting one again next draft with an even higher pick, if one is available
Yeah, but...all your linebacker are belong to us...never forget THAT! LOL
But Keim sucked don't you know.
CardNots
ASFN Lifer
He got drunk on his initial successBut Keim sucked don't you know.
SECTION 11
vibraslap
You totally beat me to that
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
I feel like at worst we should have a decent "floor" draft with this year's class. Injuries could change that but not many of these guys seem to be ones who will have issues off the field. Have no clue on the top end.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
I think that PJJ will be a foundational piece of the next Cardinals playoff team.
Ojulari will be the #2 pass rusher down the road.
I'm more bullish on Garrett Williams than most; I think he's a future starter. Not a high end starter, but a dependable one.
I really like Wilson and I like the gamble the more I look at it. His tape looks good, but I have my doubts because of his injury history.
I have a weird feeling about Gaines. I think Gaines sticks for awhile on this team. He's smart and has good movement skills.
Pappoe might not make the roster. I think Tune hangs around the NFL at the fringes of roster. Clark has some traits, but I think he doesn't make the roster this year either. Stills might make it as a rotation guy.
I think four players from this draft could stick for four years.
I think Ojulari is going to be Edge #1. Not this year but in the future.
He's still a baby. He's only just turned 21. Once his body matures and he adds 10lbs of NFL weight he's going to be a force.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
I like him because he does have that ceiling.
Will McDonald is about to turn 24 and he just went in the first round. The growth a young man can make in those first few years of their 20's can be remarkable.
I think it was Brett Kollman who was talking about those 6'2 edge guys with long arms, how they have this interesting leverage dynamic where they can get lower on taller tackles and use those long arms to their advantage.
Looking at the rookie class picture, Ojulari, PJJ, and Michael Wilson all looked like physical specimens, especially PJJ. I think I'm more excited about this class than most.
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