WK 7-Houston Texans @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread Oct 18-Oct 24, 2021

[JosiahLee]

If they do that you have to wonder are they THAT down on Tua, or do they have some reason to believe Watson won't end up with massive legal issues from his sexual assault allegations? I mean trading multiple picks for a guy who may be in a ton of legal trouble, and suspended, is a HUGE risk.

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe they know something the public doesn’t.

And if he stays in the AFC I absolutely love that!

 

[Goodyear Card]

Texans-Cardinals injury report: Arizona TE Daniels, DT Lawrence out

The Cardinals are nicked up at tight end, on the offensive line and at linebacker as they prepare for Week 7 against the Houston Texans.

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[Hoodhero]

I just can’t believe a team would be willing to risk any draft capital of any kind till the legal issues are completely and totally squashed.

A lot of Dolphins fans all up in arms & ready to abandon ship if Watson trade goes through. That got to factor in with owner but he is 81 & probably will do anything @ this pt to make final run.

 

[QuebecCard]

I just can’t believe a team would be willing to risk any draft capital of any kind till the legal issues are completely and totally squashed.

Aren't his 'legal' issues essentially Civil in nature?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Is the only concern Kliff?

How he feels after getting over it. Will he be as dialed in on what to call and how to manage the game (we win sure)

Some people have trouble performing their jobs normally right away let alone an NFL Head Coach. Hope he's feeling well.

My concern is lack of focus at this point. But we may not have that issue anymore.

 

[Red on White]

I just can’t believe a team would be willing to risk any draft capital of any kind till the legal issues are completely and totally squashed.

Desperate times, desperate measures. Are their coaches/GM/other staff on the hook at the moment?

If their jobs are at stake they might figure it's worth the gamble. If they are on the path to being fired anyway what's the difference if it's because of a different reason? Fixing it will be someone else's problem too.

Does the franchise have safeguards in place to prevent desperate current custodians from risking blowing up the future to save their own skins?

 

[Red on White]

Will Chandler Jones be back this week? Markus Golden seemed to step up in his absence

 

[gmabel830]

My kids are doing a Junior cheer/Junior flag boy performance on the great lawn before the game. That’s about all the info I have without consulting the boss for more details.

 

[HomerPimpson]

Desperate times, desperate measures. Are their coaches/GM/other staff on the hook at the moment?

If their jobs are at stake they might figure it's worth the gamble. If they are on the path to being fired anyway what's the difference if it's because of a different reason? Fixing it will be someone else's problem too.

Does the franchise have safeguards in place to prevent desperate current custodians from risking blowing up the future to save their own skins?

Somewhat related but while thinking about our upcoming game against Houston I've similarly wondered if there's any safeguards in place for a guy on the outs getting rid of their best player in Hopkins. You could really blow up a team on your way out.

 

[Shane]

Aren't his 'legal' issues essentially Civil in nature?

Last I heard there was one non civil sexual assault alligation that Houston PD was still investigating?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Will Chandler Jones be back this week? Markus Golden seemed to step up in his absence

It's been awfully quiet about Jones. I wonder if his symptoms were worse and/or are lingering and he can't test negative?

 

[oaken1]

It's been awfully quiet about Jones. I wonder if his symptoms were worse and/or are lingering and he can't test negative?

might depend if they are tracking symptoms. last time I had it my symptoms lasted for a couple weeks after I was negative.,,.. but I got long haul covid and had other symptoms kick in for about four months
hopefully chan doesnt have to deal with any of that...it messes with your organs...screwed my heart up....fortunately I think he has access to much more attentive medical care than I do, lol.

 

[GatorAZ]

Remember the posts on here about trading Kyler for Watson…?

I would’ve done it in real time but man imagine if it actually happened. Probably would’ve tanked the franchise.

 

[BritCard]

Aren't his 'legal' issues essentially Civil in nature?

Last I heard there was one non civil sexual assault alligation that Houston PD was still investigating?

In my opinion, it's going to end up a purely civil matter. The single assault allegation is impossible to prove being essentially he said/she said and I think having so many complaints but only a single actual assault probably weakens that claim. I'm really not sure what other legal grounds there are. Many of the allegations are sleazy but not necessarily illegal.

This has been going on 6 months with what appears to be no progress. Even Buzbee has gone silent. He was holding pressers and releasing regular statements to add pressure but that's all died off.

If I had to put money on it this feels like a stalemate that will end in a minor settlement to seal it all up in a non disclosure. And everything will go back to normal and next year everyone will be cheering Watson like it never happened.

 

[BritCard]

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[Zeem_Freeze]

Vance saying that K2 gone back into scientist mode with all extra time not been @ facility. Got to think that helps with getting ahead with gameplans & adding some new wrinkles for defenses down next stretch.

I almost want K2 to tell the team they can handle the Texans and that he is focused on the Packers. Let Whipple call the plays again and have the whole team focus on Texans while Kliff schemes up that Packers Defense...

this would never happen but would be kinda cool

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Chopper0080]

Only cause I want to bum out @Chopper0080

lol...I saw it. I like Vance is giving his best graded players the most snaps...oh wait. (just being a troll I am on the forefront of the "PFF is far from perfect team")

 

[Chopper0080]

Remember the posts on here about trading Kyler for Watson…?

That was me.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Zaven Collins only played 16 defensive snaps, but PFF gave him a grade of 91.7

Browns game

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Houston Texans at Arizona Cardinals – 4:25 p.m. Sunday​

Team	Spread	Total	Moneyline
Texans			+950
Cardinals	-17	47.5	-1600

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You must be registered for see images attach Cardinals	-17	47.5	-1600

Anything the Rams can do, the Cardinals can do better, for now at least. If you thought a 15-point opening line was heavy, the Cardinals opened -17 ahead of this week’s game against the Texans. Is Arizona two full possessions better than Houston? Probably. That’s still a lot of points to spot a team, especially considering the Texans have covered spreads of 7.5 and 13 points this season. But after last week’s 31-3 defeat against the Colts, there’s not a lot of optimism that Houston can bounce back against an unbeaten team. Arizona’s scored 30 or more points in five of six games while its defense has registered 13 takeaways.

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[ajcardfan]

It's been awfully quiet about Jones. I wonder if his symptoms were worse and/or are lingering and he can't test negative?

Players have to be symptom free for 48 hours and get two negative tests 24 hours apart to return.

My personal guess is we might be lucky and get one of Peters, Jones or Allen back this Sunday. More likely, Packers game.

 

[outcent13]

That was me.

Same. I can admit when I’m wrong, even when I am horribly wrong. Happens all the time just ask my wife ! Haha

 

[SoonerLou]

Players have to be symptom free for 48 hours and get two negative tests 24 hours apart to return.

My personal guess is we might be lucky and get one of Peters, Jones or Allen back this Sunday. More likely, Packers game.

I take this as a clue that Kliff isnt coaching this Sunday. Why else include Colt

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And more seriously I think he and Cam Turner need a full 10 days.

 

[Chopper0080]

I almost want K2 to tell the team they can handle the Texans and that he is focused on the Packers. Let Whipple call the plays again and have the whole team focus on Texans while Kliff schemes up that Packers Defense...

this would never happen but would be kinda cool

Hopefully the success of the team without Kliff gives him more comfort in stepping away a bit from the offense. I don't know that he is ready to give up play calling, but maybe he will name a passing game coordinator or give others some more opportunities.