Wondering about Nash
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Draft a center to put amare at the 4 and marion at the 3 the bell or possibly lbj at the 2 then nash at the 1. Thats alot of money though.
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Draft a center at #21? His butt won't ever get off the bench. There is no such thing as a center in the NBA except for Shaq, especially on the Suns. The rest are stiffs. D'Antoni won't draft a center. We play three small forwards as it is right now. "When" Amare comes back we will force every team's 5 to the bench with fouls and speed. Diop will be on the floor for two seconds before Avery pulls him and we know how Damp did last year.
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Nash - I think atleast 2 yrs, provided we draft/buy a good PG to back him up.
Draft: pick a PG if there are any left. Marcus/Rondo. I don't know how good a PG Diaz is. Definitely not a center. Like Folster said, there is no C in our game. And yes there are just 2 C's in the NBA - Shaq and Yao. The latter is not great but is one of the best C's which says quite a bit about the others in the NBA.
Draft: pick a PG if there are any left. Marcus/Rondo. I don't know how good a PG Diaz is. Definitely not a center. Like Folster said, there is no C in our game. And yes there are just 2 C's in the NBA - Shaq and Yao. The latter is not great but is one of the best C's which says quite a bit about the others in the NBA.
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Nhas has got 2 more GREAT years left in and I think 2 good years left in him, with heavily reduced minutes ala Stockton towards the end of his career.
We need to find our PG of the future and start grooming him so we cna transition as easily as possible from one ear to another.
We need to find our PG of the future and start grooming him so we cna transition as easily as possible from one ear to another.
Nash can finish his contract(3 or 4 years) with great play but we need a good back-up point guard so Nash can get a good amount of rest and we don't rely on him as much. 34-36 minutes would be good for him next year. Then it should be more like 30. Next year has got to be our year to win. It's our best chance before we have to get rid of some salary.
Phill11
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I think Nash could player 2 more years (Keeping the Suns the way they are). But then again I could also see him player 2 strong years then also 2 more years playing 15-25 minutes a game.
I don't think Barbosa is a backup/sucessor to Nash. He's definatley more of a SG in this system. I'd rather see us have Diaw at PG rather than draft or putting LB there.
Damn just imagine a lineup of:
Diaw
Barbosa/OTHER?
Bell
Marion
Amare
I don't think Barbosa is a backup/sucessor to Nash. He's definatley more of a SG in this system. I'd rather see us have Diaw at PG rather than draft or putting LB there.
Damn just imagine a lineup of:
Diaw
Barbosa/OTHER?
Bell
Marion
Amare
JAndrews said:
IMO (with no stats to bring in) barbosa seems more effective coming off the bench and shifting the game to a higher speed. So I'm not really convinced that he's really close to becoming a starter.
With that said...draft a guard instead of a center.
Diaw trying to run the point is exactly why he was considered a throw-in in the trade with Atlanta. When the Suns gave him a shot at the backup position behind Nash during training camp, D'Antoni was uncertain of Diaw's future. All of that changed ONLY went he moved to center, where he creates numerous mismatches with his speed, footwork, and versatility. He's NOT a PG, but as a center, he's a very skilled passer.Phill11 said:
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Phill11 said:
Isn't this the same lineup we have next season, just without Nash? Usually there is a little more "imagination" in the imagine this lineup posts.
BC867
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Why is it only Point Guard or Center? Now that he's developed as a 1-on-1 player offensively (better than Marion in that regard), how about Forward?Gaddabout said:
That's where Boris belongs. With him and Raja Bell, along with Nash, Amare and whoever, and the willingness to go beyond 7 players, we'd be ready to challenge for the championship.
Phill11
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Treesquid said:
How can I be creative. That's the lineup of the future.... And I love it. Here's my creative Suns 2006 Roster:
PG - Gary Payton
SG - Charles Barkley
SF - Michael Jordan
PF - Shaquille O'Neal
C - Boris Diaw
Gaddabout said:
Diaw would create even more mismatches at the PG. Diaw is a hell of a passer and has done well bringing the ball down the court when needed. I'd like to see Boris learn a bit more from Nash and drive to the hoop, then kick it out. Because I think Boris would be able to do it even better than Nash.
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But Diaw struggled at PG in Atlanta and early on for the Suns, for a variety reasons, but namely he's not very quick for a PG. If he had any advantage at PG, he'd still be playing that position. D'Antoni expressed concern how he would even use Diaw in the rotation. His early performance here was that bad.
I think you're seriously undervaluing the primary reason Diaw was MIP this year. Besides the fact he's in a system that values passing, Diaw runs circles around opposing centers on the offensive side of the ball. He does not have that advantage as a PG.
BC, I think Diaw will eventually settle in at small forward, but I wonder how effective he will be there matched up against guys with similar size and, on some occassions, a step or two on the Frenchman. Diaw's shot has improved, but he's still not a guy you want shooting from the corner with regularity. I think he has a lot of game to work on before I call that move worth getting excited about.
