Would you pick Calvin Johnson if he fell to us at five?

[cardsunsfan]

I would see if I could trade out of our draft position for something really good, but if I couldn't I would take him over any other player other than Joe Thomas.

I usually support the BPA mentality early in the draft, and I only see two "so called" sure players Johnson & Thomas, with Peterson coming close. Peterson would be an interesting pic. But to keep it simple I will say he's off the board, also the scenario where Johnson and Peterson are available are small.

The QB's to meet don't look like anything too special, and I would take Quinn over Russell. Russell just doesn't seem like a leader to me, and didn't impress me that much over his career. He had some really spectacular games, but not that many. I think Quinn would have done more with more talent. He also seem like a very hard worker and seems to have good leadership skills.

Anyways..would you pic Johnson? I know we would have three great receivers, but hell we could trade one if need be. Maybe we could get something for BJ. It also would be great to have a deep threat. I know Leinart isn't supposed to have the deepest arm but he sure through some deep balls perfectly (many dropped by BJ)

 

[Evil Ash]

Nope but I get on the phone with the Vikings in a hurry

 

[cardsunsfan]

and if the Vikings didn't give you anything decent? What if they said an extra fifth pic or something? Teams aren't as willing to trade up these days... I would want something really good to not draft him.

 

[ajcardfan]

No, I try to trade. I think there would be a good chance of getting an offer. If I get no trade offers, I take Anderson. Although Nelson and Landry would be extremely tempting. After the money we've spent on the secondary in free agency though, we have to pass on those two at #5.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

and if the Vikings didn't give you anything decent? What if they said an extra fifth pic or something? Teams aren't as willing to trade up these days... I would want something really good to not draft him.

I'd keep him and offer BJ to the Vikings for a 2nd and would accept a third.

 

[ajcardfan]

and if the Vikings didn't give you anything decent? What if they said an extra fifth pic or something? Teams aren't as willing to trade up these days... I would want something really good to not draft him.

Need does matter in the top ten picks, don't kid yourself. The contracts are too big to take a player at a position where you have two Pro Bowlers already starting. Speed WRs can be found in later rounds to complement Boldin and Fitz.

 

[az1965]

NO! Cannot waste such a high pick on one position we are set for next few years.

 

[cardsunsfan]

No, I try to trade. I think there would be a good chance of getting an offer. If I get no trade offers, I take Anderson. Although Nelson and Landry would be extremely tempting. After the money we've spent on the secondary in free agency though, we have to pass on those two at #5.

None of the defensive players really impress me. I've seen most of them play, and I don't see any of them being world beaters at the next level. I think it's just a weak defensive class. Of course somebody will come out of the mix probably as a world beater but who knows who will that be?

I've seen Calvin Johnson play and he is amazing. He could be one of the best "players" to come out in years. If teams were to pick BPA I think he would have been picked first in the last four or five drafts.

I would still pick Thomas because it is such a big need for us and he is probably the second best player.

 

[ajcardfan]

I'd keep him and offer BJ to the Vikings for a 2nd and would accept a third.

And if monkeys flew out of my butt, I could open my own zoo.


Sure, I'd trade BJ for a second round pick too. But, to use understatement this time, that's not very plausible.

 

[cardsunsfan]

Need does matter in the top ten picks, don't kid yourself. The contracts are too big to take a player at a position where you have two Pro Bowlers already starting. Speed WRs can be found in later rounds to complement Boldin and Fitz.

Then you assess them all and trade Boldin, Calvin, or Fitz for needs later...

 

[ajcardfan]

None of the defensive players really impress me. I've seen most of them play, and I don't see any of them being world beaters at the next level. I think it's just a weak defensive class. Of course somebody will come out of the mix probably as a world beater but who knows who will that be?

I've seen Calvin Johnson play and he is amazing. He could be one of the best "players" to come out in years. If teams were to pick BPA I think he would have been picked first in the last four or five drafts.

I would still pick Thomas because it is such a big need for us and he is probably the second best player.

Agreed that Johnson is a terrific player. Personally, I think Thomas is just as awesome. If we can get him, we're looking at starter at LT for a decade IMO.

 

[ajcardfan]

Then you assess them all and trade Boldin, Calvin, or Fitz for needs later...

Trading Boldin or Fitz is absolutely out of the question now. There's no cap space left to absorb their bonus. Which is a good thing, trading a proven NFL star would be a bit nuts for a team that has never been just loaded with talent.

 

[BACH]

If CJ is there at #5, we will have about 10 teams willing to pay big a lot for that pick. Trade down.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

And if monkeys flew out of my butt, I could open my own zoo.


Sure, I'd trade BJ for a second round pick too. But, to use understatement this time, that's not very plausible.

Well, not to overstate the obvious, yours is not the final word on BJ's value in a trade.

I repeat: I'd keep Johnson "the younger" offer BJ to the Vikes (or anyone else for that matter) for a second and would accept a THIRD.

A young wideout, possibly entering his prime, with a recent resumé of 40 catches, over 700 yards and an 18.5 yd av. (3rd in the league) should get the Cards a first day pick.

And that is not IMPLAUSIBLE in a world where monkey's don't fly out of butts.

 

[Pariah]

I'd try to trade out of the spot, but if teams were trying to fleece us because they don't think we'd pull the trigger, I'd pull the trigger. And, unless we got a reasonable trade offer for what looks like a WR that could be selected #1 overall, I'd keep him and throw a ton of 3 WR sets at the opposition.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I would take him and trade Fitz to the Vikes.

 

[azdad1978]

I would take him and trade Fitz to the Vikes.

No thanks. Trade a proven player for unproven WR? Right now who says that CJ will be a bust at this point? Trade down and pick an extra 2nd round pick to at least fill the holes we have in this team.

 

[ajcardfan]

Well, not to overstate the obvious, yours is not the final word on BJ's value in a trade.

I repeat: I'd keep Johnson "the younger" offer BJ to the Vikes (or anyone else for that matter) for a second and would accept a THIRD.

To belabor the obvious, you aren't any more of an authority on BJ's trade value than I am. I'm very confident that he couldn't get a first day pick. But, I'd be very happy to tell you "I was wrong." If the Cards could get a first day pick for a player who is as well known for his key dropped passes as he is for his actual production, they would fall all over themselves to take it before the other team changed their minds.

 

[Chainthroer]

If we took him, we'd have that best three WRs on the field in the NFL. Could go either way - trade down for at least top a 10 pick plus another in the second, or take him. I think it would depend upon what we could get for the trade down, like the inclusion of an established player at a critical need position.

 

[cardsfanmd]

No thanks. Trade a proven player for unproven WR? Right now who says that CJ will be a bust at this point? Trade down and pick an extra 2nd round pick to at least fill the holes we have in this team.

Wide recievers wih his credentials aren't ever busts. That is not to say that he cant/wont blow his knee out or break his neck, but this isn't quantum physics here. When was the last time you saw a 6'5 240lb reciever with hands of glue and a 40 time of 4.35? Do I need to mention his outstanding work ethic, team-first approach and/or utter lack of criminal history? There is no room for bust in there hoss. This guy is a faster, better, more dedicated, soberer and nicer version of David Boston. Mark my words, he will be one of the best recievers in football within the next few years.

I love Fitz, and this would never happen. If it did though, I would understand the reasoning. johnson would be cheaper and younger. Not to mention that Fitz is may currently be the most valueable reciever in the game (due to his size, work ethic and youth). Actually, I think that the best description of Johnson is a bigger & faster Fitz.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

no, this team is not going to be pass happy like the teams of the past. Cards need to get some starters in here, you don't need 3 studs at WR to win in the NFL.

 

[Cards Czar]

And if monkeys flew out of my butt, I could open my own zoo.


Sure, I'd trade BJ for a second round pick too. But, to use understatement this time, that's not very plausible.

Will there be senior citizen and Military discounts for the Zoo!


Sorry but it was too good to pass up...LOL

 

[Lorenzo]

no way! let detroit have em'
there are other needs on this team aren't there?

 

[cardsunsfan]

I did not say trade Fitz right away. I would like to see what CJ has for a year or so being thinking trading Fitz,Boldin or CJ and that is only if we feel like we have to much in that area. If we were to trade one it would be hopefully for close to an equal talent somebody it will probably be much better than the optional choice we will have this draft.

I think if he ends up near as good as people think he will be, we will be well compensated for picking him in the future.

 

[Lorenzo]

that 4.35 is wicked........combined with the fact that he was the best WR in the country.