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I'm not going to get into a debate over unions, not in this thread, not in any other. But this logic is a bit silly. If we're going to commend the financial risk-taker for being shrewd, we should also commend the shrewd artisan that knows where his or her leverage is. Unions work when they maximize all their leverage. Holding union benefits over the head of would-be line-crossers is good business. I don't know how else one could view it, especially in the high-end entertainment industry where "making a living" is defined most elsewhere as "making a killing."

And I'm not suggesting anyone is doing that here. In fact, it was delivered as a concerned warning, not as an inciting threat.

Writers are some of the most underpaid talent in the industry compared to their bountiful creative contribution to a multi-billion dollar industry. The number of big earners is small, and most everyone who did make it to the semi-good life of syndication and big development deals ate garbage before they got there. I know more than a few. I was not willing to take the risks they did as young people to get where they are now. Now, a few them are head-scratchers -- I write better stuff in an e-mail to my wife than they do for their big-dollar projects -- but I won't deny they worked their butts off to get where they are.

So when I suggest I'm considering taking advantage of an available opportunity, I don't do it without the understanding that I never paid the dues the union writers did. Capitalizing on it ... causes me to take a pregnant, ethical pause.

Gad, if you choose to go forward (I'm glad you're not seeing this as a threat, cause it's not - it IS concern), make as much money as you can fast, because once the strike is over, the Union will NEVER let you in and most show-runners WILL hold a grudge, limiting your employment chances.
 

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Cheese, do you see the strike going on much past december when the scripts start running dry and Farmer Wants a Wife and the ilk are splashed all over primetime?
 

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Cheese, do you see the strike going on much past december when the scripts start running dry and Farmer Wants a Wife and the ilk are splashed all over primetime?

Farmer Wants a Wife is coming whether you want it to or not.
 
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Cheese, do you see the strike going on much past december when the scripts start running dry and Farmer Wants a Wife and the ilk are splashed all over primetime?

I don't think anything serious even begins to happen until January when there's literally no new content to put on the air. They'll have produced shows until then... for most of the networks. Then, if it doesn't happen in January or early February, it'll go till summer. Yup, that's right, I think the producers will basically tell the WGA to screw off with an upcoming DGA and SAG strike four months away and wait for Armaggedon.
 

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I don't think anything serious even begins to happen until January when there's literally no new content to put on the air. They'll have produced shows until then... for most of the networks. Then, if it doesn't happen in January or early February, it'll go till summer. Yup, that's right, I think the producers will basically tell the WGA to screw off with an upcoming DGA and SAG strike four months away and wait for Armaggedon.

Is this completely screwing your pilot show? I mean, does this basically make it dead in the water? I know how hard it is to get a pilot screened, much less into production. Do you think it will be scrapped after this blows over or does the fact that they will want to be up and running with stuff ASAP mean your show is more likely to be picked up?
 
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Is this completely screwing your pilot show? I mean, does this basically make it dead in the water? I know how hard it is to get a pilot screened, much less into production. Do you think it will be scrapped after this blows over or does the fact that they will want to be up and running with stuff ASAP mean your show is more likely to be picked up?

PROBABLY closer to the latter, but it's Hollywood where no one knows anything.
 

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November 06, 2007

Strike Notes

I was sitting at lunch with a TV-writer friend on Sunday when his strike assignment arrived on his BlackBerry: four hours, the following day, over the hill in Burbank. He had spent the previous evening grimly reading Joan Didion’s account, in “After Henry,” of the twenty-two-week writers’ strike in 1988, which, according to the L.A. Times, cost the industry about five hundred million dollars. As Didion saw it, the strike “was about respect, and about whether the people who made the biggest money were or were not going to give a little to the people who made the less big money.”

Most people think that this strike will last six months, and that, as before, the writers will not win. People are wondering if, during those months, the loss of biodiversity will bring about the total, irreversible dominance of the nutrient-choking algae of reality TV.

I just spoke to my friend. He and about a hundred other writers were attempting to disrupt the shooting of “Desperate Housewives” by shouting “Shut it down!” and “We write the storia / For Eva Longoria!” Then Longoria had pizza delivered for the strikers.
 

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disrupt the shooting of “Desperate Housewives” by shouting “Shut it down!” and “We write the storia / For Eva Longoria!” Then Longoria had pizza delivered for the strikers.

That's cool of that little shrimp to do that. Well, I guess she'll be joining them soon enough.
 

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Gad, if you choose to go forward (I'm glad you're not seeing this as a threat, cause it's not - it IS concern), make as much money as you can fast, because once the strike is over, the Union will NEVER let you in and most show-runners WILL hold a grudge, limiting your employment chances.

Apparently the choice to wait was just made for me. Instead of being forwarded to mgt., my specs were sent to a writer who e-mailed me this morning saying he thought they had the "right timbre and sense of humor." I guess we'll pick up after the strike. No idea.

In my best Coolio impression, "So I got that going for me."
 

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What has been disrupted already?

Late night shows (reruns) and 24: Day 7 (postponed indefinitely).

Anything else?
 

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What has been disrupted already?

Late night shows (reruns) and 24: Day 7 (postponed indefinitely).

Anything else?

Office is done...they have one more episode to air. Heroes ends Dec 3rd, i think...shot an early finale.
 

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Excerpts from an e-mail from Dale Alexander, a key grip on NBC's "The Office":
"Our show was shut down and we were all laid off this week. I've been watching the news since the WGA strike was announced and I have yet to see any coverage dedicated to the effect that this strike will have on the below the line employees.
"I respect the WGA's position. They probably do deserve a larger percentage of profit participation, but a lengthy strike will affect more than just the writers and studios. On my show we had 14 writers. There were also 2 cameramen, 2 camera assistants, 4 hair stylists, 4 makeup artists, 7 wardrobe people, 4 grips, 4 electricians, 2 craft service, 4 props people, 6 construction, 1 medic, 3 art department, 5 set dressers, 3 sound men, 3 stand-ins, 2 set PAs, 4 assistant directors, 1 DGA trainee, 1 unit manager, 6 production office personnel, 3 casting people, 4 writers assistants, 1 script supervisor, 2 editors, 2 editors assistants, 3 post production personnel, 1 facilities manager, 8 drivers, 2 location managers, 3 accountants, 4 caterers and a producer who's not a writer. All 102 of us are now out of work.
"I have been in the motion picture business for 33 years and have survived three major strikes. None of which have been by any of the below the line unions. During the 1988 WGA strike many of my friends lost their homes, cars and even spouses. Many actors are publicly backing the writers, some have even said that they would find a way to help pay bills for the striking writers. When the networks run out of new shows and they air repeats the writers will be paid residuals. The lowest paid writer in television makes roughly twice the salary than the below the line crewmember makes. Everyone should be paid their fair share, but does it have to be at the expense of the other 90% of the crewmembers. Nobody ever recoups from a strike, lost wages are just that, lost.
"We all know that the strike will be resolved. Eventually both sides will return to the bargaining table and make a deal. The only uncertainty is how many of our houses, livelihoods, college educations and retirement funds will pay for it."
--Maria Elena Fernandez
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/11/i-was-until-rec.html
 

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Lets nominate this key grip for the "Voice of Reason" award. Oh wait... before we crown his asz... lets look a little closer at his e-mail.

Excerpts from an e-mail from Dale Alexander, a key grip on NBC's "The Office":

"When the networks run out of new shows and they air repeats the writers will be paid residuals."

What decade does this guy live in? I'm getting a picture of a dude with a mullet, wearing parachute pants and listening to Flock of Seagulls. Re-runs are becoming extinct. Repeats are being run on-line and sold on DVD. This is the WGA's arguement. Marketing of repeats has changed and the writters don't want to be cut out.

"The lowest paid writer in television makes roughly twice the salary than the below the line crewmember makes."

This is a thinly veiled accusation blaming the writers for this mess. That aside...how much does the lowest paid producer or studio exec. make, Dale-ster? I'm honestly not trying to minimize the importance of people dubbed "below the line", however, unlike grips, the majority of the people can not be writers. Sure, everyone thinks they are talented and creative, or can make better scripts, but very few people are successful at accomplishing this and should be compensated accordingly.

Crew members are comparitively underpaid, but there is very little turn over with Grips due to a very attractive benefits package. Benefits that are paid into by RESIDUALS from repeats. The WGA is the front line, if the writers fold on this issue, the AMPTP will use this weakness against every union in Hollywood including Mr. Alexander's union.

Maybe this gentleman should stop playing the victim card and realize the AMPTP is...who we thought they were.
 
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everyone in this town has known this strike has been coming for months. And while crew members don't make as much as writers... they're not paupers by any stretch of the imagination. PAs? Yeah, they're pretty screwed, in the short run, but there's always work for PAs who actually work hard.

I feel the worst for all the asst.'s in town. Those are the people who are gonna get hit hard the worst. They're the lowest paid and likely the first position to get the axe when people need to start trimming costs. Which just means there will be a lot of unemployed asst.'s looking for job that don't exists.
 

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Lets nominate this key grip for the "Voice of Reason" award. Oh wait... before we crown his asz... lets look a little closer at his e-mail.

Excerpts from an e-mail from Dale Alexander, a key grip on NBC's "The Office":

"When the networks run out of new shows and they air repeats the writers will be paid residuals."

What decade does this guy live in? I'm getting a picture of a dude with a mullet, wearing parachute pants and listening to Flock of Seagulls. Re-runs are becoming extinct. Repeats are being run on-line and sold on DVD. This is the WGA's arguement. Marketing of repeats has changed and the writters don't want to be cut out.

Except, the studios can still make money off of on-air repeats. They don't make money with online. That's why I always thought the DVD market should be where the union should put all their energy into. Online won't make any money for at least 3 years, maybe more. My thought was for the Writers to really go after DVD residuals, sign a short deal (3-5 years), and if the studios go for that, the union would have a huge advantage to renegotiate at that time, when hopefully online profits might actually exist.

"The lowest paid writer in television makes roughly twice the salary than the below the line crewmember makes."

This is a thinly veiled accusation blaming the writers for this mess. That aside...how much does the lowest paid producer or studio exec. make, Dale-ster? I'm honestly not trying to minimize the importance of people dubbed "below the line", however, unlike grips, the majority of the people can not be writers. Sure, everyone thinks they are talented and creative, or can make better scripts, but very few people are successful at accomplishing this and should be compensated accordingly.

Crew members are comparitively underpaid, but there is very little turn over with Grips due to a very attractive benefits package. Benefits that are paid into by RESIDUALS from repeats. The WGA is the front line, if the writers fold on this issue, the AMPTP will use this weakness against every union in Hollywood including Mr. Alexander's union.

Maybe this gentleman should stop playing the victim card and realize the AMPTP is...who we thought they were.
Benefits don't exist if the employer can't afford to pay for them. The writers definitely have a right to explore these issues, but make no mistake--the writers are not the only ones affected by this strike. And on films and television, there can be hundreds of below-the-line employees and only a handful of the more high visibility ones. And the high visibility ones make all the money.

It's a tough situation all around, and it will be very difficult to come to a solution that will make everyone happy. While I sympathize with the writers, it's very difficult to imagine them winning this strike. Whispers in the industry are that they will not. But you never know.
 
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and in response to Chap's response above,, I'll let someone else voice an polar opposite view of things, which is in complete opposition with the notion that the Writer's should settle for a 3-5 year deal, while focussing on DVD residuals - a voice which is a) more well versed in the history of the town and b) incredibly more eloquent than my own. I give you the greatest FILM/TV Columnist on the planet and a man who has covered Hollywood since before many of us were born to do my talking for me.

note the bolded paragraph below - fool me once, shame on me. fool me twice...

From Today's LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-bigpicture13nov13,1,3048316.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

STRIKE REVEALS A FUTURE FEARED

If the studios really believe they can't share a sliver of profits with the people who create what they sell, they'll be the losers. If you don't believe in the future, you shouldn't be in show business.

By Patrick Goldstein, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

November 13, 2007
AS the strike enters its second week with the two sides as far apart as ever, it's hard not to take the writers' side. I'm not sure I'd go as far as Paul Haggis, who called the dispute "another example of massive corporate greed." But he's on the right track. When Tom Freston was fired from Viacom in 2006 he received $60 million in severance pay, more than all of the DVD residuals paid to WGA members that year. I spent much of last week talking to studio executives, eager to hear a good explanation for months of one-sided negotiations, where the studios essentially presented a series of rollback offers and then bashed the writers for not embracing them. None of the studio chiefs would talk on the record, but if I were to sum up their views, I'd put it this way: The future is too uncertain for us to give anything away.

It's somehow fitting that the best piece of agitprop from the writers strike can be found on YouTube, the kind of new technology that's helped inspire much of the industry-wide jitters behind this bitter work stoppage. The clip, titled "The Office Is Closed," features the program's show runner, Greg Daniels, and his writing staff on the picket lines, mocking NBC's parsimonious exploitation of their online labors. (You can also see it at UnitedHollywood.com.)

"The Office" has been a big online hit, attracting 7 million iTunes downloads. NBC.com also streams full-length episodes with ads that, according to Daniels, sell for twice the rate of regular broadcast ads, since you can't fast-forward through them. What do the show's writers get? Peanuts.

ONE of the big sticking points of the work stoppage that has sent shock waves through Hollywood involves what writers will get paid for films and TV shows streamed on the Internet. The studios have defined the streaming of films and TV shows as promotion, not programming. That also goes for 10 "Office" "webisodes" (or web-based episodes) that Daniels and his staff wrote.

Even though the webisodes were such a hit that the staff won a Daytime Emmy for them earlier this year, the writers didn't get paid, since they were defined as promotional material. As Daniels put it on YouTube, if NBC's lawyers are creative enough to call streamed "Office" episodes promotional material, maybe NBC should "send the lawyers in to write our episodes."

Hollywood has always been a land of fear and anxiety. It's why the town's most-repeated maxims involve the slippery grip on the pole of success -- why just root against your enemies, for example, when you can root for your friends to fail too. Everyone in this nasty labor dispute has profound insecurity about the future, an attitude deeply rooted in industry history.

Near the end of his career, the fabled producer David O. Selznick glumly walked across a deserted back lot one night, saying, "Hollywood's like Egypt, full of crumbling pyramids [that] will keep crumbling until the wind blows the last studio prop across the sands." Even half a century ago, the moguls were congenitally pessimistic, always convinced the business was about to collapse. Perhaps this attitude grew out of the industry's Jewish shtetl roots. Maybe it's because the industry teems with hustlers and salesmen -- they're always worried the public will smell the con.

Whenever a new technology has arrived, Hollywood has seen it as a grave threat to prosperity, whether it was the coming of talkies, the growth of television or the arrival of the VCR, the greatest gravy train of all, which the studios immediately attempted to sue out of existence. The studios didn't crumble -- they reinvented themselves and continued to prosper.

Even if you chalk up some of the poor-mouthing to gamesmanship, it's hard to reconcile the studio's negativism about the future with the current state of the business. To hear them talk, you'd think they were running an airline or an American auto company, to name just two ailing industries that have forced workers to take pay cuts and health care rollbacks to keep the ship afloat.

In fact, Hollywood, once a boom or bust business, has never been as stable or consistently profitable as it is today, thanks to better management of risk, a flood of outside investment, global growth and a vertical integration that finds most studios in the hands of far larger corporate behemoths. When NBC has a cold, GE doesn't even sneeze.

The studios' problem is that they see the sweeping change represented by the Internet as more of a threat than an opportunity. For all the talk of how the industry needs a titan like Lew Wasserman to mediate the strike, everyone seems to have forgotten that Wasserman's greatest coups, like buying the Paramount movie library for a song, involved a belief that entertainment would always have future value.

Not that some concerns aren't justified. The Internet has wreaked havoc on both the record industry and the newspaper business, making it difficult to monetize their products. Studios worry that younger consumers, who today pay $20 for new DVDs, may prefer an online rental model (via streaming or video on demand) that generates far less revenue. But there's a certain disingenuousness at work here. Every year I write a column grading the movie studios on their box-office performance. And every year, studio chiefs assure me that they're rolling in dough.

IF you've ever heard an executive on an earnings call with financial analysts, you've heard the same upbeat chatter. I'm always told that somewhere down the endless ancillary revenue stream, whether its overseas box office, DVD sales, pay-TV revenue or showings on Singapore Airlines, virtually every movie will turn a profit. The same goes for TV, a veritable cash machine, at least for hit shows.

This past week Viacom reported an 80% leap in third-quarter earnings, boosted by a 57% rise in entertainment revenue. News Corp., which reported $732 million in earnings for the quarter, credited much of the gains to the box-office results from "The Simpsons Movie" and "Live Free or Die Hard." And even though Time Warner's overall earnings declined (to a paltry $1.09 billion), its movie earnings jumped 71%, thanks to the success of a new "Harry Potter" and "Oceans Thirteen."

So why are studios playing such hardball? They say they can't divvy up online revenue until they have a better idea of how much money is generated. Of course, when video came along, the studios persuaded writers to take a tiny cut of the profits, so as not to kill an emerging technology. But once they were accumulating windfall profits, did they ever revisit that deal? Not on your life.

The bottom line is that the strike is going to inflict a lot of pain, starting with the writers, who don't have the studios' deep pockets. But amid all the name-calling, what has gone relatively unnoticed is that a prolonged strike may cause all sorts of seismic shifts in the entertainment world. A younger audience, already growing distant from network TV, will spend more time than ever on the Internet, where -- with the playing field more level than ever -- the opportunity for exposure will be bigger than ever.

New stars will emerge, new forms of entertainment will hit pay dirt. The amateurs, already in ascendancy, will bask in the spotlight. With the networks flogging what will surely be a hapless array of reality programming, the originality of user-generated comedy on the Web will seem more fresh and ingenious than ever.

We've become an entertainment-obsessed nation, often to a fault. And whatever shape the new entertainment takes, the media giants will find a way to get their share. Money will be made. That's because Hollywood history has always rewarded the ****-eyed optimist. Every great power broker, from Irving Thalberg to Rupert Murdoch, has been bullish about the future, eager for new worlds to conquer.

If the studios really believe they can't share a sliver of profits with the people who create what they sell, they'll be the losers. If you don't believe in the future, you shouldn't be in show business.
 
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I'd love to see where Goldstein found evidence of "windfall profits". I only WISH the internet had windfall profits, or else we would have more than a skeleton crew working where I work.

I know that all of you think I'm crazy even though I am directly involved with a network website that shows full episodes of our shows. Cheese is a writer's assistant on a show on Lifetime, I work on video (full episodes and short-form) for a network website. Why does that make him more of an authority to all of you than I am? Then again, I guess it isn't too hard to figure out.

Again, the writers are asking for a share of profits that don't exist. Nobody knows how much money the internet will make for the studios--it damn sure isn't making any right now. Right now, the internet is a marketing tool, just like newspapers and magazines. Does a writer get a payment when an ad for his tv show/movie shows up in Maxim?

Nobody's saying the writers shouldn't share in the profits of new media and online. The problem is that right now, and probably for the next few years, there isn't any profits to be had, by the writers OR the studio. The studio's are understandably nervous to make a deal regarding profits that may happen, but haven't happened yet.
 
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I'd love to see where Goldstein found evidence of "windfall profits". I only WISH the internet had windfall profits, or else we would have more than a skeleton crew working where I work.

Chap - do you really think the windfall profits trickle down to the little people? You've worked in this business a long time and we BOTH know PRODUCERS are CHEAP and will try to cut corners anywhere they can to save themselves (and thus make themselves) money.

I know that all of you think I'm crazy even though I am directly involved with a network website that shows full episodes of our shows.

And what is your involvement? I believe you're an editor, right? Do you deal with studio's/producer's deal on advertising on said website? Do you have access to their books? Are you in anyway involved with financial decisions besides budgetary issues dealing with the editing staff Chap? I hope this doesn't seem like an inquisition/attack because it's not meant to, but I'm asking these questions to get the heart of the matter as you try to insinuate below that you should be more of an authority figure on this issue than me (and to be honest, I don't know the answer to that and answers to these questions would let me know a lot where you're coming from with what I (and several others) believe to be, well, to use a word you've used about the writer's demands multiple times, ridiculous. So are you privy to the deals between producers and those that wish to advertise on their sites? Or how much money they make on downloaded material?

Cheese is a writer's assistant on a show on Lifetime, I work on video (full episodes and short-form) for a network website.

since the above and the next sentence below seem to be an insinuation that my opinion shouldn't hold much weight (and if I'm reading that wrong, I apologize in advance), I guess I'll break down my actual job. I'm the executive producer's assistant on a Sony show on the Lifetime Network. I've sat and talked with producers/executives at the highest level of both studio and network for the last 6 months, both in my capacity as an assistant and as a friend, not to mention sitting in strike meetings for the WGA. Now my title ain't all that (although if we get picked up, I'll be staffed on a writer - hurray!), but the access and insight I've gotten from that position is. Does that make me an "authority"? No. But it's given me a hell of a lot of information that you're average "writer's asst." wouldn't have. I know both worlds, and not just from working the last six months, but having worked with and made friends with producers/studio peeps every year in pilot season, not to mention having gotten my start an Anonymous Content working for CEO/Producer Steve Golin who basically was one of the pioneers for using the Internet with the BMW Films back in 2001.

Why does that make him more of an authority to all of you than I am? Then again, I guess it isn't too hard to figure out.

Chap, do you think I'm more "popular" than you are? I can assure you, there's a hell of a lot of people who dislike me, just the same they do you dude.

Again, the writers are asking for a share of profits that don't exist. Nobody knows how much money the internet will make for the studios--it damn sure isn't making any right now. Right now, the internet is a marketing tool, just like newspapers and magazines. Does a writer get a payment when an ad for his tv show/movie shows up in Maxim?

I'm going to ask a question that may seem REALLY stupid, but I've got to ask it because I'm looking at your last question with a heavy amount of incredulity. Now maybe I'm reading the above wrong and let me know if I am because I don't want to put words into your mouth, but are you saying that an entire written episode being aired on the internet is basically the same thing as an ad running in a magazine as far as what a writer is due for the use of their work?
 
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