YOU make the call: 2004 Quarterback?

[SECTION 11]

Who do you want?

 

[Espo]

alright close the polls its a land slide my opinon is right eli manning with 100%

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Eli!

 

[SECTION 11]

Be sure to take into consideration the realistic possibilities of moving up or down in the draft, Couch getting cut, trades, etc.

If you theoretically wanted Manning and wanted to move up to #1 to get him, what would you give up to trade #1 & #3?

 

[vince56]

Realistic approach... Manning gone by # 3... We need to draft a stud QB... DO NOT TRADE UP. That leaves R-berger as our best option... hopefully he doesn't go at #2.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I'll pick a crazy one, Rich Gannon reunites with Green and competes with McCown in camp winning the starting job.

 

[ajcardfan]

I'd draft Manning and then let McCown and Blake duel for the starting job.

So, how should I vote?

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
I'd draft Manning and then let McCown and Blake duel for the starting job.

So, how should I vote?

I guess if you think he's going to be there at #3 I'd say vote Manning. Hell, vote Manning regardless! Anarchy!!
Do you think he'll be there?

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
I guess if you think he's going to be there at #3 I'd say vote Manning. Hell, vote Manning regardless! Anarchy!!
Do you think he'll be there?

I think it is about 50/50 that he will be there. Maybe not quite that good. I do think there is a 95% chance Ben R. will be there. I think we draft either one if there, with Manning as first choice.

 

[Ryanwb]

Lots of McCown homerism going on

 

[shoe]

With what we have now McC own is the man.....however I think with Dennys QB friendly system Big Ben couldn't come in to a better situation.


Send Parsons to NFL Europe ...lets see what he has.

Get rid of Blake(TO SHORT,OLD AND UNIMPRESSIVE)

 

[AzCards21]

Well, I've never been one that went with the crowd. The Parsons vote is mine.

I do like what McCown has shown so far and wouldn't mind him starting next season. I just think several diamonds in the rough are on this squad right now and a little polish(sp) will go a long way.

I've always liked how Parsons has played and think he has a shot with a new coach and no preconcieved notions.

This will be the most fun offseason of the Cards tenure in the desert. No doubt.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Who do you want or who will be? I picked Blake but I dont want him. Green will probably start him though.

 

[Wild Card]

Originally posted by swd1974
Who do you want or who will be? I picked Blake but I dont want him. Green will probably start him though.

SWD1974:

Jeff Blake wouldn't be the first journeyman QB to flourish in Dennis Green's offensive scheme. Remember some of the guys who quarterbacked playoff teams for Minnesota during Green's tenure there (e.g., Rich Gannon, Jim McMahon, Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham, Jeff George).

Gannon played on 6-10 and 8-8 Vikings teams under Jerry Burns before Green took over; McMahon was a back-up in Philly the year before he went 9-7 under Green; Cunningham was out of football until Green brought him back; Johnson was Warren Moon's backup with the Vikes for two seasons before getting his chance; George had two of his three career playoff appearances, and his only playoff win, with Green. And Daunte Culpepper--a first-rounder for whom Green was widely criticized--went 11-5 and to the Pro Bowl in his first year as a starter.

Blake will only start if Green thinks that he's the best-available option. That'll be good enough for me.

WC

 

[Stronso]

You know - I think people are getting too down on Blake. Yes he struggled and yes he made some bad plays but I think he was better than when Jake was here. Secondly, I think part of the problem was also Sully's system - or lack thereof. Systems have much to do with the success of the QB. Blake has done well in other places and in other systems. RG's system has worked for a variety of QB's and I think Blake will do well in it.

Now who did I vote for? Eli. B/C we need a franchise QB for the next dozen years.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

This is a difficult question. I would say McCown for sure in 2004 if I thought we had a million holes to fill, like any, well coached, 4-12 team would have. I would say go with McCown, and, use our money for the draft and FA. If McCown flops, fire Blake or Parsons out there for the remainder of 2004, and then go after the mythical "franchise QB" hard for 2005 (or keep McCown if he's good enough to get us to the playoffs).

But do we really have good read on our talent level? Can we honestly say that we are not "just" a "franchise QB" away from the playoffs? I don't know.

But my gut still tells me McCown. Signing Eli or even Rothelisburger might cripple us from a cash standpoint. McCown comes cheap, leaving us flexibility to make plenty of moves on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Brevity]

Realistically?...Draft Roethlisberger. Play McCown. Blake is number 2. Parsons gets goes to the practice squad where we risk him getting picked up by another team.

 

[Loyal Card 17]

the way green was talking in his introduction speech, jeff blake is going to be the starter. he played in his system and can throw the deep ball. where the deep ball was this season. i have no idea. personally i like phillip rivers. if that means to pick him at the #3 spot then do it. if it requires to trade down, then do it. i know that the cardinals are not going to trade down this year. they will pick at the #3 spot. that is just a gut feeling.

 

[az240zz]

I say none of them. I want Payton Manning and would give up my 1st round picks this year and next year for him. Why pay a rookie 40 to 50 million when you can get the co MVP for the same or a little more money.

az240z

 

[Southpaw]

I am all for Josh McCown because the Cards need to be accountable for their picks. I am of the feeling he needs a QB coach to kick it up a notch. But, now I have to admit, that if Ben was available with the 3rd pick, he would be tough to turn down. Has Preston ever palyed in NFL Europe? Might be good for his career.

 

[ajcardfan]

The funniest thing about this poll is that Preston Parsons is neck-and-neck with Jeff Garcia.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
I'd draft Manning and then let McCown and Blake duel for the starting job.

So, how should I vote?

That's the same question I had except I was drafting Ben. So I opted to select Ben because I think by late in the year he would be the starter.

To start the year I'm expecting blake to win the job.

 

[Southpaw]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
That's the same question I had except I was drafting Ben. So I opted to select Ben because I think by late in the year he would be the starter.

To start the year I'm expecting blake to win the job.

I understand that your reasons for expecting Blake to win the job are subjective, but please share, because I don't see the point in Blake even being on this team next year. Let me guess. Mentor for the newly drafted QB ?

 

[DieHardFromMO]

Originally posted by az240zz
I say none of them. I want Payton Manning and would give up my 1st round picks this year and next year for him. Why pay a rookie 40 to 50 million when you can get the co MVP for the same or a little more money.

az240z

Shall we say the bidding for Peyton Manning starts at:


Eagles Star Donovan McNabb is Highest-Paid Player in NFL History
By Stephanie A. Crockett, BET.com Staff Writer

Posted Sept. 27, 2002 -- Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb has agreed to the richest contract in NFL history: $115 million over 12 years, with more than $20 million in bonus money.

McNabb, 25, finished negotiations with Eagles president Joe Banner, and agent Fletcher Smith of Chicago yesterday, but several parts of the deal have to go through the NFL office first, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

McNabb was in the fourth year of a seven-year contract with the Eagles. He made an annual $3 million each year, but in 2003 it would go up to $6.2 million, $7.5 million in 2004 and $8.2 million in 2005.

At the time he signed, McNabb's contract was the highest the Eagles had ever paid for a player. According to the Inquirer, no other NFL team has agreed to such a long-term deal with a player who has had that much time left on his contract.

The Eagles chose McNabb, a Syracuse University senior, as their first-round pick in the 1998 draft, making him the highest-drafted African-American quarterback in National Football League history.

Here are some of the top players' salaries in the four major sports, according to the Inquirer:

NFL
Drew Bledsoe, Buffalo, $10.3 million
Major League Baseball
Alex Rodriguez, Texas, $22 million
National Hockey League
Keith Tkchuk, St. Louis, $11 million
Jaromir Jagr, Washington, $11 million
Peter Frosberg, Colorado, $11 million
National Basketball Association
Kevin Garnett, Minnesota, $25.2 million

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by wallyburger
I understand that your reasons for expecting Blake to win the job are subjective, but please share, because I don't see the point in Blake even being on this team next year. Let me guess. Mentor for the newly drafted QB ?

Because I believe in an open competition between McCown and either Manning or Ben, Blake would win the job in camp. Not to say he'd keep it all year, but I think he'd win the job in camp. Remember nobody EVER said Josh started the last 3 because he beat out Jeff, they all conceded he was starting to take a look at him. mac said it wasn't anything Blake did, Sullivan said it, Graves said it, even Josh said it. When you are 0-0 coming out of the preseason, it's going to be a lot harder for Josh to be the starter than we're you're 3-10.

Blake struggled mightily before being benched this past year, he's not as "exciting" as Josh, he doesn't move around as much, doesn't improvise as much. That said, he also dealt with a lot more adversity than Josh did since he started 13 games instead of 3 and he started the FIRST 13 games. When Sullivan was going through his on the job learning curve as OC, it was Blake who had to deal with it. Sure he takes part of the blame, but all the nonsense of getting plays in on time, plays that the defense knew from formation, WR's lined up incorrectly, injuries to WR's who were supposed to be starters, Shipp not playing etc. All of that impacted Blake alot more than it did josh because by the end of the year we'd sorted through most of that.

First 4 games Blake played fairly well, just had crucial mistakes at the worst possible times. He even played well in November statistically but realistically he wasn't moving the team or making big plays, he was playing like a QB who was afraid of making mistakes, and inevitably made them anyways. I think he simply had no faith in the system we were running, something he basically said when openly questioning the lack of deep balls etc.

That said I think with an experienced guy like Denny Green running the offense you'll see a lot better Jeff Blake this year, the guy that had a good TD to INT ratio most of his career before last year.

Josh certainly has the talent I just don't think he's experienced enough yet to run an offense for Denny Green when he has a veteran option like Blake. I do think ultimately Josh or the QB we draft if we do, will take the job, I've said all along Blake is the bridge to the next QB, I just don't think he'll lose the job in camp this year.

About the only way I see him NOT opening the season as the starter is if we're able to get good trade value for him. I think dumping him would be silly we'd take a caphit, get nothing in return, and the way the NFL is odds are someone this year is going to get a QB injured and having a guy like Blake to trade later would be valuable.