You wanted Watson active? you got it (dan williams not suiting up)

[az jam]

As I recall in the pre-draft data, Dan Williams had a weight problem in college and was an underachiever until his senior year. Lance Kiffin became the head coach at Tennessee and brought his father Monte Kiffin (who was an outstanding DC for Tampa Bay) to be the DC. Williams then had a breakout season under him and became a top pick.

 

[dogpoo32]

Really? We are giving up on him for this? The coaches are a joke b/c of this? This happens all the time. The deactivation is probably trying to wake him up. He will be fine. No cause for alarm yet....

So move him to third string. If one of the top two go down now we are looking at Alan Branch at NT. He has shown zero promise at that position. Hell, he barely shows up at DE.

Seems like more a fault of management and their lack of quality depth.

 

[dogpoo32]

As I recall in the pre-draft data, Dan Williams had a weight problem in college and was an underachiever until his senior year. Lance Kiffin became the head coach at Tennessee and brought his father Monte Kiffin (who was an outstanding DC for Tampa Bay) to be the DC. Williams then had a breakout season under him and became a top pick.

So you are implying that we need an outstanding DC? In that case we're boned.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

So move him to third string. If one of the top two go down now we are looking at Alan Branch at NT. He has shown zero promise at that position. Hell, he barely shows up at DE.

Seems like more a fault of management and their lack of quality depth.

Not the same statement. Deactivating says we dont need you and cant use you when your in this shape.

 

[Darkside]

The more I think about it the more it almost makes sense. If our team has shown one thing so far this season it's a lack of discipline. All the penalties; players being out of position (DRC, Adub, and our DLine being moved quite easily). Even after the players-only meeting on D they still went out and stunk it up. If that's not a lack of discipline I don't know what is. And D Williams was benched for it, not only to motivate the player, but as an example to the rest of the guys. Not being able to maintain playing weight--that is, what the coaches decide is his ideal playing weight--is the epitome of a lack of discipline.

 

[Monty]

Kent just tweeted the following which explains it all really

Coaches hope benching is a wakeup call for NT Dan Williams. They are tired of young d-linemen letting themselves get out of shape.

 

[Shane]

DRC and Daryl Washington both were told that they needed to gain weight but I doubt if they loose weight they will be benched like Williams.

He is a big guy, who knows if he is working his butt off and the weight is just not coming off.

It is harder for some people to lose weight.

The situation ,and I do not care who is to blame, is a joke IMO. The guy is NT tackle.

He is not going to get in better playing shape by sitting on the sidelines, IMHO.

The problem that you don't seem to be getting is that he even managed to gain weight. That shoul never have happened and shows he isn't doing what he is supposed to do.

And yes he can absolutely get into better shape while on the sidelines. It's called a gym/practice and less food apparently. Don't need to be playing on Sundays to get in better shape. Especially considering you should never have been out of shape to begin with.

 

[Russ Smith]

So move him to third string. If one of the top two go down now we are looking at Alan Branch at NT. He has shown zero promise at that position. Hell, he barely shows up at DE.

Seems like more a fault of management and their lack of quality depth.

We've only had 2 active NT's each of the first 3 games, before it was Watson out, this week it's Williams.

If this were permanent I'd be concerned but it's not, they're clearly trying to get his attention. I think they want him to step up and take more PT, but he isn't in good enough shape to do so.

He's got a chance to be really good, they don't want him to develop bad habits.

 

[Russ Smith]

The problem that you don't seem to be getting is that he even managed to gain weight. That shoul never have happened and shows he isn't doing what he is supposed to do.

And yes he can absolutely get into better shape while on the sidelines. It's called a gym/practice and less food apparently. Don't need to be playing on Sundays to get in better shape. Especially considering you should never have been out of shape to begin with.

We don't know that for sure. He may have been given a target weight like you have to be below X by a certain date, and he missed the date. Doesn't mean he necessarily gained weight, just hasn't gotten in the kind of shape he needs to be in?

He is a massive kid in the lower body, maybe he went to Dez Bryant's dinner party?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

WTF is going on? Williams looked like a beast on college and was in great shape for a person of his position. Now he cant breathe on the field, but he still plays better than others on the team.

Remember in the offseason when they has B-Rob mentor him and B-Rob stated that if D-Will was not starting infront of him the B-Rob had failed as a mentor?

Also, I thought Dockett had taken big Dan under his wing. this just doesnt make any sense.

 

[Shane]

We don't know that for sure. He may have been given a target weight like you have to be below X by a certain date, and he missed the date. Doesn't mean he necessarily gained weight, just hasn't gotten in the kind of shape he needs to be in?

He is a massive kid in the lower body, maybe he went to Dez Bryant's dinner party?

I would say urbans tweet confirms he let himself go.

Anyone siding with Williams which there are a few are delusional.

 

[Buckybird]

this just doesnt make any sense.

Many things this year hasn't made sense...

1)Wells being in the game late in the 3rd qtr of the fourth preseason game & getting hurt

2)Leinart getting demoted & cut within 2 weeks.

3)Trading a drafted player (Colvin) for a FB from the Iggles & then cutting him

4)Going into camp with a banged up Hayes & putting off back surgery in the offseason

5)Cutting a 2nd round pick (Brown) & going into the regular season with 3 healthy OLB's

Now this...

As the World Turns...

 

[Shane]

Many things this year hasn't made sense...

1)Wells being in the game late in the 3rd qtr of the fourth preseason game & getting hurt

..

Beanie was hurt in 1st half.

 

[Duckjake]

Kent just tweeted the following which explains it all really

They're tired of young defensive linemen getting out of shape?
Haven't fielded a decent defense in 4 seasons?
Sounds like a coaching problem to me.

Meanwhile the team players and guys who are in shape get steamrolled 41-7 one week and have to rely on a Rackers kick from Janikowski to avoid having lost yet another game because they couldn't stop an opponent in the last two minutes the next. And let a rookie QB in his first ever NFL game complete 33 passes.

Rod Serling must have written the script for this season.

 

[Duckjake]

Many things this year hasn't made sense...

1)Wells being in the game late in the 3rd qtr of the fourth preseason game & getting hurt

2)Leinart getting demoted & cut within 2 weeks.

3)Trading a drafted player (Colvin) for a FB from the Iggles & then cutting him

4)Going into camp with a banged up Hayes & putting off back surgery in the offseason

5)Cutting a 2nd round pick (Brown) & going into the regular season with 3 healthy OLB's

Now this...

As the World Turns...

Bucky, we forgot to mention that the Cards are able to trade Boldin because we are loaded with good young WR talent and then both Doucet and Breaston get hurt.

 

[Duckjake]

I would say urbans tweet confirms he let himself go.

Anyone siding with Williams which there are a few are delusional.

Urban didn't tweet anything. You are the one who is delusional.

Kent just tweeted the following which explains it

 

[Crimson Warrior]

How does everyone think Watson will play?

He might play really well. It could turn out to be a good move.

 

[Duckjake]

How does everyone think Watson will play?

He might play really well. It could turn out to be a good move.

An even better move would be to have both Watson and DWilliams play.

Anything would be better than Robinson. Bryan did a decent job for the Cards he just got old. Happens to every player.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

An even better move would be to have both Watson and DWilliams play.

Anything would be better than Robinson. Bryan did a decent job for the Cards he just got old. Happens to every player.

I agree with that.

Duck, I'm picking OU 21-20, with the horns missing a long FG at the end of game.

Sound reasonable?

 

[Monty]

They're tired of young defensive linemen getting out of shape?
Haven't fielded a decent defense in 4 seasons?
Sounds like a coaching problem to me.

First part correct, second part is an exaggeration on your part. The tweet just said that this should be a wake-up call to Williams and the D-line as a whole about keeping their weight in check. It could be a coaching problem but thats not what i got from the tweet.

 

[Duckjake]

First part correct, second part is an exaggeration on your part. The tweet just said that this should be a wake-up call to Williams and the D-line as a whole about keeping their weight in check. It could be a coaching problem but thats not what i got from the tweet.

Why is it an exaggeration? What makes you think the Cards have played decent defense since 2007?

In 2007 they ranked 27th in points allowed.

In 2008 they gave up 36 passing Touchdowns

In those two seasons they gave up 825 points and that wasn't playing with an offense that went 3 and out very often. (Well maybe Warner and the offense scored too fast so the D didn't get enough rest.)

Last year they gave up highest or second highest season passing totals to 5 different QBs. They let Vince Young throw for 387 yards, VINCE YOUNG! They let two no name running backs from bad teams gouge them for big yards and tried to blow the big leads Warner and the offense gave them numerous times.

They gave up almost 100 points in the two playoff games and then, after getting rid of all the me first players there was the Atlanta game this season where they just got steamrolled.

All of that is fact not exaggeration.

 

[Duckjake]

I agree with that.

Duck, I'm picking OU 21-20, with the horns missing a long FG at the end of game.

Sound reasonable?

You know as well as I do that game is totally unpredictable. Texas is too young overall and too small on defense and is really weak on the offensive line.

I thought they had a good enough defense to make it while Gilbert got his Soph season out of the way but after the 2nd half vs UCLA I don't know?

However in the spirit of fun I will make a prediction: Greg Davis throws it sideways 40 times and runs the draw play the other 20 and OU wins 27-13.

Unless Peter Gardere comes out of the stands and suits up then Texas wins 28-24.

 

[Bobcat]

This ranks as yet another chapter of the absurd when it comes to the Cardinals' defense. All anyone has to do is watch the tape. The guy who is starting at NT is thoroughly ineffective...which is causing other teams to double and triple Dockett without any qualms or fears...which is HURTING the entire defense.

Then you watch when Williams is in the game and it's a remarkable difference...he's not getting hammered backwards as the starter is...he's more than holding his own at the point of attack...and he scrapes down the line and delivers blows on the RB that the starter has never ever delivered in his career.

Just like Deuce is too heavy and out of shape...well, he's the BEST o-lineman on the team...and the coaches can go shove the weight thing because it's a joke.

Go tell the best NTs in the league they can't play because they are tipping 340. Ridiculous.

Great post Mitch you are so right. It makes you wonder who is running the ship...???

 

[Monty]

Why is it an exaggeration? What makes you think the Cards have played decent defense since 2007?

No I was referring to the fact that you exaggerated what was in the tweet which said nothing about the quality of defensive play. You inferred that you got that from the tweet when there was nothing there about it.

And for that record i do agree that our defense has been the poorer part of our ball club for quite some time.

 

[Duckjake]

No I was referring to the fact that you exaggerated what was in the tweet which said nothing about the quality of defensive play. You inferred that you got that from the tweet when there was nothing there about it.

And for that record i do agree that our defense has been the poorer part of our ball club for quite some time.

I probably could have made it clearer that I was saying I thought it ridiculous that the coaches, who haven't put a decent defense on the field in 4 seasons, were upset at young Dlinemen being out of shape.

Now, after watching the Raiders drive for a TD at the end of the first half and seeing a front 4 of Haggans, Dockett, Campbell, and Porter, even when the Raiders had first and goal at the Arizona 4 yard line and on 2nd and goal Paris Lenon is 7 yards off the los, I know the Cards defensive coaches have lost their minds.