Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

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Some people really hate the concept of a blocking TE. I feel it comes from the corporate mindset of not caring about anything that can't easily be quantified. Key blocks don't show up on the stat sheet.
ESPN did it...these days everyone wants a highlight reel or the player suxx. The instant gratification generation also demands they do it NOW!! NOW!!! NOW!!!
or they suck.......
 

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Reiman had 4 penalties called on him against the Vikings. A couple of them were big, even if 1 seemed to be a really bad call. A blocking TE getting that many penalties in a game has to be pretty rare. He has to be smarter than that, even as a rookie.

Also, he is nearly 275 pounds. The guy is not going to be a major receiving option in this passing game. He is an extra O-lineman who can catch the ball occasionally.
 

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No but that doesn't mean he's a good receiver. Again I like the kid, but you don't normally spend a 3rd rounder on him. I feel like Monti figured because he had so many picks he wanted to make sure he got Tip and used a 3rd to do so
Was he a fit pick? Did MO feel running two TE sets were going to a prominent part of our offense. How big a role did Rieman contribute to our rather successful running game?
 

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Just a reminder that we traded the pick that was Sam LaPorta away and took OJulari the year before.

So we completely could have had that offense.
Why, why would you remind me of this, you farging bastage?

In my dream world, we would somehow be able to afford the luxury of taking Tyler Warren in the draft. Imagine him on one side and McBride on the other.
 

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Why, why would you remind me of this, you farging bastage?

In my dream world, we would somehow be able to afford the luxury of taking Tyler Warren in the draft. Imagine him on one side and McBride on the other.

Sadly we have painted ourselves into the dline corner.
 

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Reiman is special. He blocks as well as many defensive linemen. However he has better agility allowing him to block better on the move. He could well develop into one of the top blocking TEs in the NFL. He also will develop as a receiver. He won’t be a big producer in this area, but could be a Max Williams type. With the team wanting to use multiple TE sets and run, he’s a solid addition.
Exactly! And let’s not forget that one of MOJG’s main goals when they came here was to build a “violent” football team. As someone who’s watched this franchise since the early 60’s, the one thing we have NEVER been is PHYSICAL. Even the good Cardinal teams, albeit few, were NEVER physical teams. The 2023 team had very little talent, but came to play, and teams may have beaten us, but they walked away bruised in the process. The 2024 team had more talent, were just as physical, and doubled their wins from 2023. We drafted 23 players & so many of these guys will show tremendous improvement going into 2025. Those critical of MOJG’s first 2 drafts are being shortsighted and confused about the ultimate goal of sustainable success. Make no mistake, the culture of this team has already been set in stone. The underbelly of this team has been set too. The next phase is to continue to add the kind of talent they’re looking for to get to the next level and beyond. I could not be more happy and excited about the future of this franchise. Injuries may have slowed things down some, but not much you can do about that. Character, culture, draft, develop are already in place. Now, add more talent & watch out. This team could be significantly better than people on this board even want to realize.
 

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He's played about 4 games coming off an injury. Calf injuries can be tough. That's what you need to anchor.
As for the needs, I agree they are edge and DT. But, he has used a late 1st and early 2nd to try and address the positions. Both guys have been hurt. Not much you can do about that.
How about what he has addressed? The WR group is much better. The OL is solidified at the most crucial position. The defensive backfield is much better. The guy has had 2 drafts. He's done pretty well sans injuries.
Is it better than the one he inherited? Based on what exactly? Potential?
 

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Criminy, these guys are in their 1st or 2nd year.
I’ll say Marvin, Paris, Williams, Melton are all on track to be above average to really good starters.
Rabbit, Benson, Wilson have all shown they can play in the league.
Injuries leave questions about BJ and Robinson.
Reiman is probably already near the top as far as blocking TEs go.
I think that’s a stretch for Melton. He’s shown tools but his production in limited play hasn’t been good.

Benson, not enough data to make that determination.

So we have a solid LT, a potential filled receiver, a seemingly good nickel corner, three guys in rabbit, Wilson and reiman that look like nfl players. Out of 20 picks (my god that’s crazy) over two drafts. That’s underwhelming.
 

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Is it better than the one he inherited? Based on what exactly? Potential?
Any WR group is better when Rondale Moore isn't included in it.
The leading WR had 574 yards and 4 TD's. Harrison doubled the TD's and had 300 more yards as a rookie. It's clearly better. To say it's not is just trying to be argumentative.
 

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I think that’s a stretch for Melton. He’s shown tools but his production in limited play hasn’t been good.

Benson, not enough data to make that determination.

So we have a solid LT, a potential filled receiver, a seemingly good nickel corner, three guys in rabbit, Wilson and reiman that look like nfl players. Out of 20 picks (my god that’s crazy) over two drafts. That’s underwhelming.
On the other hand, other than injury, all of the picks in the top 5 rounds have played quite a bit and contributed to a team that played a very tough schedule, was about the youngest team in the league, and were on the brink of being a playoff team.
 

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Any WR group is better when Rondale Moore isn't included in it.
The leading WR had 574 yards and 4 TD's. Harrison doubled the TD's and had 300 more yards as a rookie. It's clearly better. To say it's not is just trying to be argumentative.

False. The leading WR had 717 yards and three TDs in nine games. The second receiver had 709 yards and three TDs in 12 games. Their names were DeAndre Hopkins and Marquise Brown, respectively. Both are gone by Monti's choice.
 

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On the other hand, other than injury, all of the picks in the top 5 rounds have played quite a bit and contributed to a team that played a very tough schedule, was about the youngest team in the league, and were on the brink of being a playoff team.
On the other other hand, we still lack in top-end talents, Monti has shown he's not good at drafting them, and he damn sure isn't signing any in FA. So, sure, maybe we back our way into the playoffs, there to get killed again, but until Monti changes--a lot--this team isn't progressing beyond that.
 

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On the other other hand, we still lack in top-end talents, Monti has shown he's not good at drafting them, and he damn sure isn't signing any in FA. So, sure, maybe we back our way into the playoffs, there to get killed again, but until Monti changes--a lot--this team isn't progressing beyond that.

A franchise LT and WR are pretty good pieces.

Mostly agree though - not hitting at the level the Rams are but then again, most teams are not.
 

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