Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[Totally_Red]

id be ok with a high end OT

but if its a guard, he better be the next coming of Zach Martin

Yup. If he is the second coming of Steve Hutchinson or Zack Martin. If he is another Jonathan Cooper, no.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

maria's fry bread on 40th street and thomas

if you order the bean and cheese - and don't order extra cheese - blasphemy

I miss that place sooo much.

 

[phillycard]

Why, why would you remind me of this, you farging bastage?

In my dream world, we would somehow be able to afford the luxury of taking Tyler Warren in the draft. Imagine him on one side and McBride on the other.

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[Chopper0080]

Just kinda funny.

Darius Robinson at the Senior Bowl
65 1/8
286
10 1/12 hands
34 3/4 arms
7ft 1/2 wingspan

Shemar Stewart at the Senior Bowl
65 1/8
281
9 1/8 hands
34 1/4 arms
6'11ft 1/2 wingspan

Very similar body types.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Well....

Bach, I believe English is a second language for you, so I wonder if that’s what’s at play here.

When cheese says he hasn’t had any success it means not one. It doesn’t mean that he has to hit on every pick, which I what your post claimed was his position. It’s literally almost the opposite of what cheese claimed.

So about that “well…”

 

[BACH]

Bach, I believe English is a second language for you, so I wonder if that’s what’s at play here.

When cheese says he hasn’t had any success it means not one. It doesn’t mean that he has to hit on every pick, which I what your post claimed was his position. It’s literally almost the opposite of what cheese claimed.

So about that “well…”

Any means zero no matter how you spin this.

I’m fluent in 4 languages and I have spoken more English than my native tongue over the last 7-8 years.

The quote called out Monti hadn’t had ANY = zero talent in identifying star players.

Immidiate impact stars - true.
But he has found REALLY good players that are on the verge of star players. That conflicts with ZERO talent

 

[kerouac9]

But he has found REALLY good players that are on the verge of star players.

WHO?!

 

[Stout]

Any means zero no matter how you spin this.

I’m fluent in 4 languages and I have spoken more English than my native tongue over the last 7-8 years.

The quote called out Monti hadn’t had ANY = zero talent in identifying star players.

Immidiate impact stars - true.
But he has found REALLY good players that are on the verge of star players. That conflicts with ZERO talent

He has clarified--several times--that he's talking about star players. So, you're saying he's right.

 

[football karma]

Just kinda funny.

Darius Robinson at the Senior Bowl
65 1/8
286
10 1/12 hands
34 3/4 arms
7ft 1/2 wingspan

Shemar Stewart at the Senior Bowl
65 1/8
281
9 1/8 hands
34 1/4 arms
6'11ft 1/2 wingspan

Very similar body types.

similar kinds of college careers -- kinda "ok" production that doesnt match how great they looked at the Senior bowl

each is the classic 4-3 DE build not sure exactly what the Cards run

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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Fun fact: Iron Eyes Cody (born Espera Oscar de Corti) was of Sicilian parentage and was not an Indian at all.

 

[PDXChris]

The different mocks on NFL.com. I'm sensing a theme here.

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Any means zero no matter how you spin this.

I’m fluent in 4 languages and I have spoken more English than my native tongue over the last 7-8 years.

The quote called out Monti hadn’t had ANY = zero talent in identifying star players.

Immidiate impact stars - true.
But he has found REALLY good players that are on the verge of star players. That conflicts with ZERO talent

You can disagree with his point. But I was calling out your claim that someone said monti had to hit on every pick to be a success, which no one has done.

And I’m impressed with your mastery of multiple languages. It is legitimately impressive. I also think it still may be the reason you claimed cheese made a comment that was virtually the opposite of what cheese stated. If you don’t understand why, well, it doesn’t really matter, but it’s true.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He has clarified--several times--that he's talking about star players. So, you're saying he's right.

Dude, let it go before you trigger him into lashing out about your anatomy and getting himself banned again.

 

[GatorAZ]

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1. Tennessee Titans: QB Cam Ward, Miami
2. Cleveland Browns: DE Abdul Carter, Penn St
3. NY Giants: QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
4. NE Patriots: WR/CB Travis Hunter, Colorado
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: DT Mason Graham, Michigan
6. Las Vegas Raiders: CB Will Johnson, Michigan
7. NY Jets: WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
8. Carolina Panthers: DE Mike Green, Marshall
9. New Orleans Saints: DE Shamar Stewart, Texas A&M
10. Chicago Bears: OL Will Campbell, LSU
11. SF 49ers: S Jahdae Barron, Texas
12. Dallas Cowboys: OL Armand Membou, Missouri
13. Miami Dolphins: OL Kelvin Banks Jr, Texas
14. Indianapolis Colts: TE Tyler Warren, Penn St
15. Atlanta Falcons: DE James Pearce Jr, Tennessee
16. Arizona Cardinals: DL Walter Nolen, Ole Miss

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

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1. Tennessee Titans: QB Cam Ward, Miami
2. Cleveland Browns: DE Abdul Carter, Penn St
3. NY Giants: QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
4. NE Patriots: WR/CB Travis Hunter, Colorado
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: DT Mason Graham, Michigan
6. Las Vegas Raiders: CB Will Johnson, Michigan
7. NY Jets: WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
8. Carolina Panthers: DE Mike Green, Marshall
9. New Orleans Saints: DE Shamar Stewart, Texas A&M
10. Chicago Bears: OL Will Campbell, LSU
11. SF 49ers: S Jahdae Barron, Texas
12. Dallas Cowboys: OL Armand Membou, Missouri
13. Miami Dolphins: OL Kelvin Banks Jr, Texas
14. Indianapolis Colts: TE Tyler Warren, Penn St
15. Atlanta Falcons: DE James Pearce Jr, Tennessee
16. Arizona Cardinals: DL Walter Nolen, Ole Miss

I noticed Mike Green going 8. That's a pretty big rise. Not saying it can't happen but from likely late 1st to early 2nd, which is where he was previously consensually rated, to top 10 doesn't usually happen.

I think this might be an overreaction to Senior Bowl week by the mocker because he has Stewart in the top 10 also.

 

[gmabel830]

And the worst mock draft I've ever seen (from a Cards specific perspective) goes to Matt Miller of ESPN.

He has us taking Jahade Barron (CB - Texas) at #16. CB is definitely not the biggest need, and I'd prefer we sign a veteran to replace SMB rather than draft another young guy. Then, and I hope to god he forgot our first round pick as he went along, he has us taking CB Shavon Revel from East Carolina in round 2. Honestly, I wouldn't hate that pick in round 2 if he was there (definite round 1 talent who got injured last year), but the idea to take CBs in the first two rounds is absolutely ludicrous.

Edit: His comments seems to indicate that Barron could play slot/safety (seems duplicative of Rabbit) vs Revel playing outside, but any combination of secondary in the first two rounds still makes no sense.

Miller's two-round 2025 NFL mock draft: Projecting the opening 64 picks, post-Senior Bowl shake-ups

Matt Miller goes two rounds deep in his latest mock draft. Who rose after the Senior Bowl? Which QBs will be early picks?

www.espn.com

 

[Chopper0080]

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1. Tennessee Titans: QB Cam Ward, Miami
2. Cleveland Browns: DE Abdul Carter, Penn St
3. NY Giants: QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
4. NE Patriots: WR/CB Travis Hunter, Colorado
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: DT Mason Graham, Michigan
6. Las Vegas Raiders: CB Will Johnson, Michigan
7. NY Jets: WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
8. Carolina Panthers: DE Mike Green, Marshall
9. New Orleans Saints: DE Shamar Stewart, Texas A&M
10. Chicago Bears: OL Will Campbell, LSU
11. SF 49ers: S Jahdae Barron, Texas
12. Dallas Cowboys: OL Armand Membou, Missouri
13. Miami Dolphins: OL Kelvin Banks Jr, Texas
14. Indianapolis Colts: TE Tyler Warren, Penn St
15. Atlanta Falcons: DE James Pearce Jr, Tennessee
16. Arizona Cardinals: DL Walter Nolen, Ole Miss

Mine is (right now)

1 - Abdul Carter - EDGE
2 - Cam Ward - QB
3 - Shedeur Sanders - QB
4 - Travis Hunter - CB/WR
5 - Mason Graham - DL
6 - Ashton Jeanty - RB
7 - Shemar Stewart - EDGE
8 - Tetairoa McMillan - WR
9 - Tyler Warren - TE
10 - Will Campbell - OL
11 - Kenneth Grant - DL
12 - Walter Nolen - DL
13 - Armand Membou - OT
14 - Mykel Williams - EDGE
15 - James Pearce - EDGE
16 - Mike Green - EDGE
17 - Will Johnson - CB
18 - Derrick Harmon - DL
19 - Luther Burden III - WR
20 - Colson Loveland - TE
21 - Emeka Egbuka - WR
22 - Jalon Walker - EDGE
23 - Malaki Starks - CB/S
24 - Jahdae Barron - CB
25 - Matthew Golden - WR
26 - Josh Simmons - OL
27 - Kelvin Banks Jr - OL
28 - Shavon Revel - CB
29 - Tyler Booker - OL
30 - Benjamin Morrison - CB

 

[Chopper0080]

My short list at 16 after the Senior Bowl in no real order

Abdul Carter (just for the list's sake)
Mike Green
Shemar Stewart
Walter Nolen
Mason Graham
Kenneth Grant
Will Campbell


Still under consideration
Armand Membou (I am a height snob for tackles and I don't love the idea of taking a G at 16)

James Pearce (I just can't get there with him at 16. Played 83 less snaps than Kenneth Grant in 2024, 255 less snaps than Mike Green)

Derrick Harmon (I don't see the dynamic in his game compared to other options)

Mykel Williams (I read that he is a dynamic player off the edge but I don't see it. Maybe being dinged up impacted him more than I think it did)

Ashton Jeanty (He is just so good. The biggest element missing from the Cardinals offense is home run plays out of the running game. Having Conner on the roster would not deter me from this move. Benson would not deter me from this move. Why I wouldn't take him at 16 is because of other roster needs and Jeanty being a RB. His talent just has to have him as a consideration)

 

[dreamcastrocks]

maria's fry bread on 40th street and thomas

if you order the bean and cheese - and don't order extra cheese - blasphemy

I just got back from AZ dealing with a sister that passed away. While I was there I was sure to eat 3 things... ATL Wings, Portillos, and Maria's fry bread. None of them disappointed.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I just got back from AZ dealing with a sister that passed away. While I was there I was sure to eat 3 things... ATL Wings, Portillos, and Maria's fry bread. None of them disappointed.

i don't mess with atl - might have to check them out because you have exquisite taste - sorry about your sister man

 

[dreamcastrocks]

i don't mess with atl - might have to check them out because you have exquisite taste - sorry about your sister man

Thanks, I appreciate that.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Thanks, I appreciate that.

no filibertos tho?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

no filibertos tho?

It was a choice between Fili and Marias and I chose Marias...

 

[BirdGangThing]

It was a choice between Fili and Marias and I chose Marias...

i live right between the two on thomas - it's marias for me all day but i still get to eat filibertos when family comes in town - heavy doses of that and red devil - i don't even eat red devil unless we have company anymore lol - it's a whole nother go to - when people come back they want to come back