Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

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Cheese/Dream… are you guys fighting nice?
I admit that I come off like a jerk some times. The inability to admit fault triggers me more than almost anything else in the world and it unleashes the worst of my lesser impulses.
 

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You’re right. I do have a crappy attitude when someone is demonstrably proven wrong (like you were with the Cardinals link/quote I posted the first time) and they still won’t admit it until so much redundant proof is offered to them that they have no choice to finally admit fault.

Having to pull teeth and nails before someone gets to the point of admitting they’re wrong is a massive failing of society at this point, so when I see that, it makes me sad and pisses me off.
Cut the crap. You responded to my post by saying 'What are you talking about?' Your attitude was there from the beginning. Don't act like it wasn't, or that this type of response from you isn't out of the norm. So spare me the fact that you only had an attitude because you 'had to prove me wrong.'

Furthermore, it was clear that I mis-remembered. It was also clear that I said I thought. Having 3 teams all finish with a 9-7 record, it would at least make some sense that they would still not necessarily be mathematically eliminated... but hey, kudos to you being right and me being wrong.
 

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I admit that I come off like a jerk some times. The inability to admit fault triggers me more than almost anything else in the world and it unleashes the worst of my lesser impulses.
Bro, I literally said in my post that I would fully admit if I was wrong. I'm not sure how much more I can admit to it than that.
 

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Ugh. Reading the scouting reports from some good analysts makes me think I am looking at a different draft class. Starting to fear the Cardinals will be trading back if they can.
All those reports that 15 to 45 is all about the same quality.
That what you're seeing?
I on the other hand would try to get our 48 up to 31 or 32. That fifth year is huge...and you know very well we are in over analyze season...but come April 90% of the top 30 will be the same guys they were in December
 

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All those reports that 15 to 45 is all about the same quality.
That what you're seeing?
I on the other hand would try to get our 48 up to 31 or 32. That fifth year is huge...and you know very well we are in over analyze season...but come April 90% of the top 30 will be the same guys they were in December
Basically that guys like Pearce, Grant, Nolan, Harmon, and Williams all have flaws that bunch them lower.
Basically, it Carter then Graham and then a large group of flawed players to navigate.
 
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