Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[RON_IN_OC]

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The fact that he said it is a bigger issue than what he actually said IMO. Some of these dudes really lack basic awareness lol.

Their agents are horrible at preparing them for media.

 

[Russ Smith]

No dog in him? Cali guys don't have that dog.

Ironically Springfield Ohio guys apparently do!

 

[Shane]

Their agents are horrible at preparing them for media.

Just a UofA thing

 

[GatorAZ]

Their agents are horrible at preparing them for media.

Apparently it was two years ago but still.

 

[Chopper0080]

Two things about the 16 pick to think about as it pertains to DL.

1 - The Cardinals reportedly had a large offer out for Milton Williams as a FA. They didn't ultimately land him, but they also didn't pivot and sign another player to do what Williams does. I think this is important for the Mason Graham, Walter Nolen, and Derrick Harmon crowd. It would be an odd pivot to be willing to spend 20+ mil on a vet to fill that role and then not be willing to use a 1st rounder to do so.

2 - The Cardinals did sign Dalvin Tomlinson to play the NT spot. Not sure if Bilal Nichols is his "back up" but ultimately, neither player looks to be a ling term solution. Could this open up a Kenneth Grant opportunity? Maybe. But it also could land on the Cardinals adding a NT later in the draft vs earlier as a NT role is a little less valuable.

 

[DVontel]

I think this is important for the Mason Graham, Walter Nolen, and Derrick Harmon crowd.

I don’t think any of these guys are in consideration for all different reasons tbh.

 

[football karma]

Two things about the 16 pick to think about as it pertains to DL.

1 - The Cardinals reportedly had a large offer out for Milton Williams as a FA. They didn't ultimately land him, but they also didn't pivot and sign another player to do what Williams does. I think this is important for the Mason Graham, Walter Nolen, and Derrick Harmon crowd. It would be an odd pivot to be willing to spend 20+ mil on a vet to fill that role and then not be willing to use a 1st rounder to do so.

2 - The Cardinals did sign Dalvin Tomlinson to play the NT spot. Not sure if Bilal Nichols is his "back up" but ultimately, neither player looks to be a ling term solution. Could this open up a Kenneth Grant opportunity? Maybe. But it also could land on the Cardinals adding a NT later in the draft vs earlier as a NT role is a little less valuable.

regarding 1: very curious if it was an either/or deal on Williams and Josh Sweat. Knocking off one need -- be it edge or interior pass rushing DT -- and then counting on the draft to address the other. IF that was the thinking, then its suggests a Walter Nolan or Derrick Harmon type in round 1

on 2: drafting Grant in round 1 would allow a base three man D-line of Grant / Tomlinson / Robinson -- with Robinson being the "light" DE at 285. You sure ought to be able to stop the run / keep the undersized LBs clean

 

[Stout]

Two things about the 16 pick to think about as it pertains to DL.

1 - The Cardinals reportedly had a large offer out for Milton Williams as a FA. They didn't ultimately land him, but they also didn't pivot and sign another player to do what Williams does. I think this is important for the Mason Graham, Walter Nolen, and Derrick Harmon crowd. It would be an odd pivot to be willing to spend 20+ mil on a vet to fill that role and then not be willing to use a 1st rounder to do so.

2 - The Cardinals did sign Dalvin Tomlinson to play the NT spot. Not sure if Bilal Nichols is his "back up" but ultimately, neither player looks to be a ling term solution. Could this open up a Kenneth Grant opportunity? Maybe. But it also could land on the Cardinals adding a NT later in the draft vs earlier as a NT role is a little less valuable.

Yes. And, to follow up, the team doesn't need depth, long-term developmental prospects, etc. They need high impact starters. They need, dare I say, Big Johns. For me, they don't need to trade back for more Draft Picks because that's not usually how you find Big Johns. If anything, they should trade UP. Target the top talent and go get him. Now, I hope their idea of a top talent and mine (ahem Nolen) align, but probably not

 

[Chopper0080]

I don’t think any of these guys are in consideration for all different reasons tbh.

Graham - will be gone

Nolen - culture fit

Harmon - not a pass rusher

?

 

[Denny Green Fan]

regarding 1: very curious if it was an either/or deal on Williams and Josh Sweat. Knocking off one need -- be it edge or interior pass rushing DT -- and then counting on the draft to address the other. IF that was the thinking, then its suggests a Walter Nolan or Derrick Harmon type in round 1

on 2: drafting Grant in round 1 would allow a base three man D-line of Grant / Tomlinson / Robinson -- with Robinson being the "light" DE at 285. You sure ought to be able to stop the run / keep the undersized LBs clean

Just when I start to give up on a stud defensive tackle you go and get my hopes up!! lol don’t think they would take Nolan if it’s true he is a character risk….to me Derrick Harmon and Kenneth grant scream Monti and Gannon type players…

 

[Chopper0080]

Just when I start to give up on a stud defensive tackle you go and get my hopes up!! lol don’t think they would take Nolan if it’s true he is a character risk….to me Derrick Harmon and Kenneth grant scream Monti and Gannon type players…

Grant is interesting because it all depends if you believe he can develop into a pass rusher. If so, I think he could be a great option. If not, then he just ends up being a 40% snap player.

 

[football karma]

Grant is interesting because it all depends if you believe he can develop into a pass rusher. If so, I think he could be a great option. If not, then he just ends up being a 40% snap player.

maybe this meets the def of pass rusher from the position, but I would accept "walks guard or center back into the pocket so the QB cant step up/ feels uncomfortable"

 

[kerouac9]

They were saying on some podcast I listen to that Shemar Stewart is settling back in to his original position in the middle 40 picks outside the top 10-12 prospects. They said that he had the worst run defense ratings they'd ever recorded for an edge player.

 

[DaHilg]

Of course not, but the Eagles also didn't have Trey McBride. WR is a need but with how this team wants to play on offense, it isn't as high of a need and it isn't something to force. I expect to continue to toss mid to late round picks at tall, vertical WRs but this draft doesn't offer a lot of those types of players that you would take earlier.

Let’s not act like Goddert is a slouch. Top 10 TE for the last 5 years.

 

[DaHilg]

Basically it comes down to how you compare Wilson/McBride vs Smith/Goedert. If you think those two pairs are relatively close, adding a replacement for Wilson becomes less important outside of the vertical/speed need. If you feel there is a large gap between the two pairs, then upgrading Wilson is more of a priority.

lol that pairing is not even close

 

[BulldogCard]

I'd say its 80 percent chance it's going to be Edge at #16. Too many good pass rushers will still be available. Thank goodness for overrated qbs. Someone will reach for Darrt who's good but I could see as a turnover machine. Maybe 4 qbs go round 1 to desperate teams who want to avoid Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins. Trade could be possible with the Steelers.

 

[Garthshort]

lol that pairing is not even close

IMO, it comes down to Passing Stats. How do the Cardinals rank in the NFL in passing offense?

 

[oaken1]

Grant is interesting because it all depends if you believe he can develop into a pass rusher. If so, I think he could be a great option. If not, then he just ends up being a 40% snap player.

But pass rush is subjective from his position.
We maybe do not see sacks but instead see others getting stats because the QB had to roll out of the pocket...personally I would consider 3-5 sacks a season pretty successful as long as it was the result of dozens of collapsed pockets

 

[oaken1]

I'd say its 80 percent chance it's going to be Edge at #16. Too many good pass rushers will still be available. Thank goodness for overrated qbs. Someone will reach for Darrt who's good but I could see as a turnover machine. Maybe 4 qbs go round 1 to desperate teams who want to avoid Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins. Trade could be possible with the Steelers.

Pass rusher at 16 is fine... then maybe trade back into the first to get a lineman

 

[Ronin]

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Monti here on the Cardinals draft needs:"I feel like we're in a spot that ... really opens us up to be able to take the best player. There isn't one spot where we are like, we have to have that at 16 because we have to have someone immediately go in there."

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I'd say its 80 percent chance it's going to be Edge at #16. Too many good pass rushers will still be available. Thank goodness for overrated qbs. Someone will reach for Darrt who's good but I could see as a turnover machine. Maybe 4 qbs go round 1 to desperate teams who want to avoid Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins. Trade could be possible with the Steelers.

I would be cool with an edge..nic scourton …mykell Williams…Boston college kid…I don’t think they would pick green or pierce….but as some fans on here say I don’t think it will happen….with sweat and ojulari coming back plus browning…and Thomas I think they will look for an o lineman at 16…or trade down for one ..how about a Texas longhorn draft? Jahdae Barron….Alfred Collin’s….Cameron Williams?

 

[DVontel]

Graham - will be gone

Nolen - culture fit

Harmon - not a pass rusher

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Accurate for the top 2, but Harmon is a decent pass rusher but he’s so limited athletically & sucks at tackling.

 

[BulldogCard]

Pass rusher at 16 is fine... then maybe trade back into the first to get a lineman

I agree, if the team doesn't trade up for the first pick; trade up into the first again to get an impact player. They need good players to contribute right away out of this draft. Not a bunch of projects.

 

[BulldogCard]

I would be cool with an edge..nic scourton …mykell Williams…Boston college kid…I don’t think they would pick green or pierce….but as some fans on here say I don’t think it will happen….with sweat and ojulari coming back plus browning…and Thomas I think they will look for an o lineman at 16…or trade down for one ..how about a Texas longhorn draft? Jahdae Barron….Alfred Collin’s….Cameron Williams?

There will be some good IOL RT type players out of NDSU, Ohio State, Texas. These are tough choices, but the OL has to get addressed like the Edge and DL. WR probably too.

 

[BulldogCard]

Accurate for the top 2, but Harmon is a decent pass rusher but he’s so limited athletically & sucks at tackling.

I like the Michligan DTs the best. After watching them in big games, I pictured Grant, Graham being good nfl tackles.