Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’m not a fan of Simmons at 16 either. I want something to make an impact now, but I do buy the logic. In a draft with limited star power, this could become the best value - just long term instead of immidiately

For a team that punted on year one, made a climb in year two, and is expected to make the playoffs in year three taking that action may just be inopportune timing.

I’ve never loved the idea of knowingly sacrificing a part, or the entirety, of a rookie contract. But when such sacrifice aligns with a season where you’re trying to make a push for the playoffs and relevancy in year three I think it compounds the sacrifice. This is a bit of a change of heart for me. Historically I’ve always been about getting the most value possible. I think in my older, wiser, years I’ve figured out that time is a commodity which too few value appropriately. And that certainly comes into play in a league in which the average tenure of a player is 3.5 years, contracts are typically in the 3-5 year range, and playoff windows (for teams like the Cardinals) are often narrow.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Oh?

We have been relevant since selecting Kyler as the top pick in the draft.

Maybe you can explain your definition of relevance?

Making the playoffs. Once in 6 years isn’t relevant.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don’t think anyone we take on defense is a game changer in year one. Whereas Jonah is a solid player with one year left on his deal and we’ll have to address that spot eventually. It all sets up for the ability to be patient with Simmons. If we were picking top-10 redshirting a guy would be a hang up but not at #16.

There’s a chasm of impact between game changer and zero production. The latter does nothing to advance the team that considers itself on the cusp of making the playoffs. A good first round selection absolutely helps in that endeavor.

 

[Gandhi]

Mykel Williams has barely been more productive - and he looks slow as hell. The book on him is he has potential, well maybe - but if he has potential than someone with Stewarts athletic ability has even more.

He was injured and often played out of position last season (only 54% of all plays he was outside the tackle). Go back and watch All 22 from last season – especially their bowl game against Florida State. You will see a significantly better version, partly because he was healthy, and partly because he was used the way the Cards would also use him. To me, he would be a highly exciting pick.

 

[az jam]

The fear on OT Josh Simmons is recovery time from the injury that he had and the history of players having short careers with that injury. On the other handle the Cards could have very good bookend tackles with him & Johnson for many years. I'm sure Monti, JG, OL Coach Frye and the Medical staff all met with him on his visit here with the Cards. Guess we have to have confidence in them. if he is their pick.

 

[MadCardDisease]

The fear on OT Josh Simmons is recovery time from the injury that he had and the history of players having short careers with that injury. On the other handle the Cards could have very good bookend tackles with him & Johnson for many years. I'm sure Monti, JG, OL Coach Frye and the Medical staff all met with him on his visit here with the Cards. Guess we have to have confidence in them. if he is their pick.

Simmons is projected to be ready to go when camp opens.

 

[GatorAZ]

For a team that punted on year one, made a climb in year two, and is expected to make the playoffs in year three taking that action may just be inopportune timing.

I’ve never loved the idea of knowingly sacrificing a part, or the entirety, of a rookie contract. But when such sacrifice aligns with a season where you’re trying to make a push for the playoffs and relevancy in year three I think it compounds the sacrifice. This is a bit of a change of heart for me. Historically I’ve always been about getting the most value possible. I think in my older, wiser, years I’ve figured out that time is a commodity which too few value appropriately. And that certainly comes into play in a league in which the average tenure of a player is 3.5 years, contracts are typically in the 3-5 year range, and playoff windows (for teams like the Cardinals) are often narrow.

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You have to consider where we’re picking. There’s 2-3 great players in this draft depending on what teams think of Jeanty. The Patriots are picking are picking 12 spots higher and even they’re in a bind to reach for someone.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Here is Josh Simmons working out at the OSU pro day

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[GatorAZ]

Here is Josh Simmons working out at the OSU pro day

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Genetic mutant and I mean that in the most flattering way possible.

 

[Proximo]

Just watched a video on McShay's draft - he has 4 of the Gambo 5 going before us, and Stewart, and Pierce.

The only one still on the board is Simmons. If that is the situation we need to try and trade back IMO.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Just watched a video on McShay's draft - he has 4 of the Gambo 5 going before us, and Stewart, and Pierce.

The only one still on the board is Simmons. If that is the situation we need to try and trade back IMO.

If 4 of the 5 are gone then you pick your guy that is left.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Simmons is projected to be ready to go when camp opens.

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Not encouraging.

 

[Proximo]

If 4 of the 5 are gone then you pick your guy that is left.

Even if he is injured and will be available 8 or 9 picks later - I don't think so.

 

[PDXChris]

8 hours!

 

[BirdGangThing]

first 3 songs at work today - good omens

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then it went to bad brains

 

[GatorAZ]

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[PDXChris]

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Not encouraging.

Toughest injury to come back from and I'd argue that it's worse for OL and DL. I wouldn't touch him unless he fell to the 3rd round.

 

[Totally_Red]

We havent been a relevant football team in a decade, it feels like we are on the precipice of something, ANYTHING, and you think we have "the luxury" of redshirting a rd. 1 pick for a year? Wild.

Yup. The Monti-JG regime is playing the long game. They'd rather have a very good player in years 2-5 than a good player in years 1-5.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I made it to my favorite draft place on time.. Like 10 years in a row. C'mon Redbirds!
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[ASUCHRIS]

I made it to my favorite draft place on time.. Like 10 years in a row
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Donde esta tu bebida?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Toughest injury to come back from and I'd argue that it's worse for OL and DL. I would touch him unless he fell to the 3rd round.

same.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Donde esta tu bebida?

Sabes que no bebo alcohol... No màs agua mineral y limon.

¡Andale!

 

[CardNots]

Making the playoffs. Once in 6 years isn’t relevant.

So relevance for you means playoff appearances, ok…

 

[Cheesebeef]

So relevance for you means playoff appearances, ok…

People outside of Arizona rarely talk about the Cardinals and when they do, it’s usually not for the wrong reasons (bad ownership, continual second half of season collapses, one humiliating wild card loss).

What does relevance mean to you if not about winning/being on the national stage?

 

[schutd]

Oh?

We have been relevant since selecting Kyler as the top pick in the draft.

Maybe you can explain your definition of relevance?

Winning a playoff game for starters?

We've been press worthy, but mainly for all the wrong reasons. Hype followed by meltdown. That's not relevance.