Your overall opinion of this year's draft

SissyBoyFloyd

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I am finding it very hard to find much talent beyond round 2-3, or top 100. Looks to me to be a good year to use your later picks to move up in early rounds or to use in trade to get experienced depth players. I just don't see that many players being able to improve our team or even make our team coming out of year.

Do you guys see it differently?
 

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The cardinals need linebackers and this draft has em. The cardinals need a big nasty running back and this draft has em. The cardinals need dominate interior lineman and... Not so much in the draft. I don't see the depth that last year had but hopefully we can strike gold with a young pass rusher.

I'm good with a number of linebackers in round 1 Bud Dupree, Nate Orchard, Beasley, McKinney any of those guys make me happy in round 1. An OLB that can win one on one would help out this defense so much it would make our secondary look better. I really want to see Alex Okafor continue to develop.

In round 2 nothing would make me happier than the running back from Indiana Tevin Coleman. Have you seen this guy? Holy hell he's huge and he runs hard. There comparing him to Demarco Murray. If he's on the board in round 2 you have to make that move.

But I think your right this is the year to package picks and move up. The cardinals biggest need next year is just to be healthy.
 
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In round 2 nothing would make me happier than the running back from Indiana Tevin Coleman. Have you seen this guy? Holy hell he's huge and he runs hard. There comparing him to Demarco Murray. If he's on the board in round 2 you have to make that move.

But I think your right this is the year to package picks and move up. The cardinals biggest need next year is just to be healthy.

It appears we would have to move up in the 2nd to get Coleman, or move back in the first and pick up a high 2nd round pick. Would be fine with me to give up any of our picks from 4-7 to move up for any player coach thinks is worth it.

Looking at the value chart the only way I can see the Cards making a move to move up to early 2nd round would be to trade back in the 1st round from 24 to about 30 picking up a mid to late 3rd rounder in the process. Then combining that 3rd rounder (or our own 3rd rounder) with our 2nd round Pick 55 to move up to around 8 or 10 in the 2nd to get a Coleman or someone else we covet. I personally would really like that move, for I feel we would get the same type player in the first round at either the 24th or 30th spot.
 
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I am not sure yet, but the wise guy in me wants to say, more positive than the original poster's opinion probably. :D
 

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If you need a pass rusher or CB (ARZ), you have to take them in the first 2 rounds because the good ones won't make it to Round 3. Every other position is pretty deep: OL, DL, RB,WR.
 

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Very deep draft for good RBs. Also deep for OL, WR & DL. Will have a better feel for quality after the Indy Combine which is Feb 17 to 23.
 

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OLB
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RB

draft them early and often if you want to maximize this draft's strengths. Avoid QBs, CBs, and Ss for the most part, and OL depth is meh after round 3.
 

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I think that there's a little bit of draft fatigue setting in. Are there outstanding talents in this draft class at any position? I don't think this is like 2013, when the only thing available was offensive linemen, but there aren't many flashy prospects in this class.

That said, the Combine is in a couple weeks, and free agency hasn't arrived yet. This is a good time to look for diamonds in the rough and build the proverbial belly of your team.
 

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draft them early and often if you want to maximize this draft's strengths. Avoid QBs, CBs, and Ss for the most part, and OL depth is meh after round 3.
This is pretty acurate
 

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One last draft class comment...WRs are being overvalued right now. This class isn't as good as last years (OBJ would be arguably the highest rated WR in this class), the Super Bowl was just filled wiht marginal WR talent, and NFL rosters are beginning to become flooded with developemental WR talent. The WR market is about to shift to a similar value as RBs. Flooded market at a position that is dependant on other positions, and a history of finding starters later in the draft or on the UDFA market. Don't draft them early unless you have a QB, don't sign them to big deals, and go for volume of quality.
 

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draft them early and often if you want to maximize this draft's strengths. Avoid QBs, CBs, and Ss for the most part, and OL depth is meh after round 3.

CB class is sneaky good.

Marcus Peters in flying under the radar as being a character red flag but in reality is a top 10 talent, and hes not that bad of a guy. I just think hes overemotional like Dez Bryant.

I like Golson, PJ Williams, White and Carter also.
 

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CB class is sneaky good.

Marcus Peters in flying under the radar as being a character red flag but in reality is a top 10 talent, and hes not that bad of a guy. I just think hes overemotional like Dez Bryant.

I like Golson, PJ Williams, White and Carter also.

Totally with you on Peters...I hope ARZ takes him in Round 2, if he's there.

I would add Doran Grant to your list. If he can duplicate his reported 4.3 electronic 40 time at OSU this summer at the Combine then that plus his impressive run during the playoffs highlighted by containing Amari Cooper should vault him into the second round.
 

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No peters is not flying under the radar I've seen as high as a top 15 pick. Everyone knows he's talented but there are major concerns with him. Not everybody is a Honey Badger sometimes a bad apple is just a bad apple.
 
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Of DE, ILB, and OLB, which one is the least likely to produce a quality player past round 2? I guess what I am wondering is, if we have an equally ranked player to choose from in round 1 at all 3 positions, which one should we pick based on depth in the draft or lack of depth in the draft?

When I do the mock games, I don't see that many ILBers that appear any better than our backups that have been forced to start are or will be. I would guess right now that I would probably go ILB in round 1 if talent was about equal amongst the 3 positions.

How do you guys feel about it?
 

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I know nothing (which will not stop me from making opinions), and I stand by that opinion with conviction :)
 
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It's a good draft for DE/OLB and RB. The other positions are average to below average. I think OL is bad this year. CB has a lot of depth but no stars. TE is probably the worst position, followed by safety. I think ILB is the most overrated position this year.
 

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This draft is consistently deep without much glamor. Top ten picks will be overpaid. Value begins after the top 10. The big uglies will dominate the 1st round. Plethora of skill players in round 2-3.
 

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It's a good draft for DE/OLB and RB. The other positions are average to below average. I think OL is bad this year. CB has a lot of depth but no stars. TE is probably the worst position, followed by safety. I think ILB is the most overrated position this year.

Evidenced by the possibility that Nick O'Leary is mentioned as a top 3 TE. OL has been overvalued for a few years. Check out the performance of the "can't miss studs" drafted top 5 in that period.
 

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Impressive thread! You guys have a good handle on this. It is a deep draft in the Cards' primary need areas. I fully agree it's not sexy, but there's plenty of useful players to be had. I've got some names that look like fun, but I want to see there numbers and medicals first.
 
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Impressive thread! You guys have a good handle on this. It is a deep draft in the Cards' primary need areas. I fully agree it's not sexy, but there's plenty of useful players to be had. I've got some names that look like fun, but I want to see there numbers and medicals first.

I'm looking forward to your analysis after the combine Harry.
 

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I believe that there are plenty of talented players to compliment what Keim does in Free Agency. He has been a master at this so far, and I doubt that he will change his stripes this time.
 

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CB class is sneaky good.

Marcus Peters in flying under the radar as being a character red flag but in reality is a top 10 talent, and hes not that bad of a guy. I just think hes overemotional like Dez Bryant.

I like Golson, PJ Williams, White and Carter also.

So, it isn't that there are not any good players, but top end talent is not there, and not a ton of depth.

Trae Waynes
Marcus Peters
PJ Williams
Jalen Collins
Josh Shaw
Steven Nelson

All good players, but other than that...meh. Not a great depth. 5 - 8 legit players IMO and that is it.
 
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