Zach Allen Signs with Denver

[Proximo]

One thing is for sure our current D line is XFL level

 

[Chopper0080]

lol. Imagine going directly to excuse-making for Michael’s second choice for the role.


We have top 10 cap space right now. The price will only go up next year. Cap space isn’t going to rush the passer in 2023.

Yeah, the excuses are so pathetic at this point. The NFL is a results business, and losing Zach Allen is a big L for Monti.

 

[redheat]

Ridiculous to lose him unless the tank is on..

 

[Chopper0080]

Steve Keim would have overpaid Allen and Murphy to stay since those were his guys. I just have a feeling that the "Patriot" way, aka Monti way, is going to be to build primarily through the draft.

The more I think about it the more I think we aren't hanging onto the 3rd pick. I also think Monti may feel overwhelmed with the Kyler contract he inherited so he is clearing the cap space starting now.

If this is Monti's plan, he is stupid. The Patriot Way works with Tom Brady. It has never worked elsewhere. If Monti is overwhelmed already Bidwill hired the wrong guy.

Poverty Franchise.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

If the plan this year is to tank for the #1 or #2 pick, trade it for an absolute haul and build an insane team around Kyler, this place is gonna blow up.

 

[kerouac9]

Well I don’t like it, but I kind of understand it.

i think the plan is to get a ton of picks in this draft by trading down, like 15 or more, fix our cap situation, and hopefully coach them all up.

What do you believe the problem with our cap situation is? How is letting Zach Allen leave a solution to it?

 

[Chopper0080]

You need Kyler to come back late and play well to move him

Trying to move Kyler next year is near impossible.

 

[Chopper0080]

What do you believe the problem with our cap situation is? How is letting Zach Allen leave a solution to it?

Yeah. We have a talent problem, not a cap problem.

 

[Syracusecards]

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[Proximo]

What do you believe the problem with our cap situation is? How is letting Zach Allen leave a solution to it?

Putting 15 million into a good not great d lineman when that is half your cap space and you have a ton of holes is probably not advisable.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Cap Space does pay for fired coaches and a plane though

And then you hear the players say the new plane has less room for them. I'm pretty certain it was a cash saving move.

 

[Card4Life]

This one stings. I was hoping against hope that we would keep Allen and draft Will Anderson, giving us a couple of cornerstones on the D-Line.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Is that even financially possible after next year?

It would cost 30 million more than his initial cap hit but then you are free going forward. That 30 million though is managed by the removal of Hopkins this year and his 26 million.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

If the plan this year is to tank for the #1 or #2 pick, trade it for an absolute haul and build an insane team around Kyler, this place is gonna blow up.

You either need to build a team around Kyler and his contract or you need to move the contract and try to win with a guy on a rookie deal.

Anything else is treading the 6-9 win treadmill

 

[football karma]

really looking forward to that 2024 3rd round compensatory pick

 

[JosiahLee]

If this is Monti's plan, he is stupid. The Patriot Way works with Tom Brady. It has never worked elsewhere. If Monti is overwhelmed already Bidwill hired the wrong guy.

Poverty Franchise.

I have a wait and see approach with Monti. I have zero expectations for 2023, but after that I'd love to see this team be ready to compete for the playoffs.

I fear there may be a poverty mindset, but in the same breath, I feel the majority of the board agrees with the decision to let an elite player like Hopkins leave. As another poster just mentioned, if they only have 30 mil in cap space and a ton of holes, does it make sense to give half of it to a single player in Allen?

All I know is Monti has inherited a dumpster fire of a roster and if he needs to burn it down to the ground rather than keep putting bandaids on it like Keim did, I think I may be in favor of being patient if it means more longterm success.

Would love to see this team start finally building the right way by investing heavily in the trenches.

 

[kerouac9]

Putting 15 million into a good not great d lineman when that is half your cap space and you have a ton of holes is probably not advisable.

Someone is going to have to play 5-technique next year and the year after.

What’s the cap problem letting Allen leave solve tho? They had a top 10 amount of cap space coming into the week.

 

[az jam]

Good player, hated to lose him.

 

[kerouac9]

Would love to see this team start finally building the right way by investing heavily in the trenches.

We’re weaker in the trenches now than when Monti arrived. Did you forget the excuses you were making at the top of your post by the time you got to the end?

 

[WisconsinCard]

I have a wait and see approach with Monti. I have zero expectations for 2023, but after that I'd love to see this team be ready to compete for the playoffs.

I fear there may be a poverty mindset, but in the same breath, I feel the majority of the board agrees with the decision to let an elite player like Hopkins leave. As another poster just mentioned, if they only have 30 mil in cap space and a ton of holes, does it make sense to give half of it to a single player in Allen?

All I know is Monti has inherited a dumpster fire of a roster and if he needs to burn it down to the ground rather than keep putting bandaids on it like Keim did, I think I may be in favor of being patient if it means more longterm success.

Would love to see this team start finally building the right way by investing heavily in the trenches.

It doesn't have to be structured that way though. They could have structured his contract in a fashion that would be a very low cap number this year, by giving a large signing bonus.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Good player, hated to use him.

Yikes, what did you use him for lol

 

[WiscoBird]

Well, Monti is going scorched earth with the roster. If this is the route we are going we should see what we can get for Budda Baker as well. We are going to be bad next year and Budda will be late 20's before we are seriously competing again.

 

[Solar7]

It's not like I'm happy to lose him, but I expected to, and this is roughly around where the deal became too rich for me. So, I'm fine with it. Kinda. Again, I don't expect anything from this year.

I don't really want to retain Byron Murphy if he gets a mega deal, but I'm fine with it if the price is right.

 

[SoonerLou]

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[Redsz]

The expected but no less unfortunate outcome. The contract from Denver would have been able to be matched by the Cardinals based on cap space. Hard to build something when you are sitting on your hands.