Suns @ Celtics 4:30pm MY45

[cobbler]

We did an absolutely deplorable job on the boards, so guys completely slacked this game.

Raja gets injured and everytime the first few games back he does terrible.

Hopefully this is just one of those game and the team gets off their ass and focuses and works hard for gods sake, otherwise we are sunk. There is just no reason other then complete laziness to get beat that bad on the boards.

I think what you are seeing, especially with teams that have endured injuries, is were 70 games in and they are hitting the wall. I dont think it can be attributed to laziness.

 

[S_Nash]

Much like the 05-06 1st round series against the Lakers where the Lakers got done by 30 in a pivitol game 7 against an Amare-less Suns team.

Or the year after where they just got rolled in 5 games.

Must've been that proverbial 'wall' eh?



I'm sick of ignorant Laker trolls who come here to rip our team to shreds.

I hope to God we draw you guys in the playoffs. I'm just upset about the fact that Laker fans like you (apologies to the decent Laker fans) will spew crap like "Bynum was underdone" and "Bynum and Gasol were learning to co-exist" when we bundle you out for the 3rd successive year.

Write the Suns off at your own peril.

 

[elindholm]

I think what you are seeing, especially with teams that have endured injuries, is were 70 games in and they are hitting the wall. I dont think it can be attributed to laziness.

Haven't all teams played about the same number of games?

The Suns haven't hit any wall any more than anyone else. They played the win-desperate Pistons to a draw on their home court just a couple of nights ago. Their effort against the Celtics was deplorable and they deserve to have plenty of criticism heaped on them, but it should at least be somewhat in touch with reality.

 

[cobbler]

this is just typical....

I give you guys the benefit of the doubt, say you looked tired rather than lazy, and get attacked for being iognorant and ripping your team to shreads?

I said... i think teams who have had injuries, thus players had to play more minutes than otherwise, are hitting the wall a bit. Just an observation, no slam at all.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez you sure are sensitive...... Must come from 40 years with no trophy and your only claim to fame being you bounced a mediocre team in round one on the road to NOWHERE. ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch

 

[cobbler]

Haven't all teams played about the same number of games?

The Suns haven't hit any wall any more than anyone else. They played the win-desperate Pistons to a draw on their home court just a couple of nights ago. Their effort against the Celtics was deplorable and they deserve to have plenty of criticism heaped on them, but it should at least be somewhat in touch with reality.

well...to me they simply looked tired... not lazy.

Sorry for having an opinion and actually sticking up for your guys. *grin*

 

[cobbler]

I'm sick of ignorant Laker trolls who come here to rip our team to shreds.

I hope to God we draw you guys in the playoffs. I'm just upset about the fact that Laker fans like you (apologies to the decent Laker fans) will spew crap like "Bynum was underdone" and "Bynum and Gasol were learning to co-exist" when we bundle you out for the 3rd successive year.

First off.... how did i rip your team to shreds by implying they were tired as oppposed to lazy? And you have the nerve to call me ignorant?

And now you are chastising me for something i might possibly say if in fact by some fate we end up playing each other this year and you possibly win? See above comment on ignorance.

 

[elindholm]

this is just typical....

I give you guys the benefit of the doubt, say you looked tired rather than lazy, and get attacked for being iognorant and ripping your team to shreads?

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez you sure are sensitive...... Must come from 40 years with no trophy and your only claim to fame being you bounced a mediocre team in round one on the road to NOWHERE. ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch

Yes, it's typical all right. A fan of a "superior" team with titles in its history makes some patronizing and blatantly incorrect remarks about a recent Suns loss, gets called out for it, then says he was trying to be "supportive" and instantly starts making fun of the entire franchise and its fan base.

It's incredibly typical, in fact. You're probably about the 500th new poster to start up the act this season. Do you really think we're too stupid to recognize the pattern, or do you hope that somehow you'll be the one that fools us after we saw through the previous 499?

There's nothing more predictable than message board trolls. What's amazing is that each of them seems to think he's doing something clever and distinctive.

 

[cobbler]

Yes, it's typical all right. A fan of a "superior" team with titles in its history makes some patronizing and blatantly incorrect remarks about a recent Suns loss, gets called out for it, then says he was trying to be "supportive" and instantly starts making fun of the entire franchise and its fan base.

It's incredibly typical, in fact. You're probably about the 500th new poster to start up the act this season. Do you really think we're too stupid to recognize the pattern, or do you hope that somehow you'll be the one that fools us after we saw through the previous 499?

There's nothing more predictable than message board trolls. What's amazing is that each of them seems to think he's doing something clever and distinctive.

Again, how is makiing a comment that the suns looked tired as opposed to lazy attacking your team in any way. How is that a blatantly incorrect remark. It's simply my observation. In fact, the poster who said you werent trying and were simply lazy was the one impuning your teams character, not me.

That i react to personal attacks by defending my person and my teams history as well as my fanship is simply a byproduct of being called ignorant and being constantly reminded of losing the last 2 years. You have never heard me bring up our "superior" history other than as a DIRECT reply to the "we owned you the last two years" dribble.

Do I think i am doing somehthing cleaver and distinctive? Are you serious? Its a friggen message board with fans opinions and comments, not a thesis.

Pattern? Are you so worried about opposing opinions that you cannot even listen without the hatred? It's a game!!! We are fans!!!! Trying to fool you? Wow. Get over yourself already.

Last but not least, if you cannot stand to listen to opinions that differ from your own, then why bother to comment on them in the first place? If you dont like me, consider me ignorant, a ....im quivering here... TROLL, then why not just ignore my comments on move on? Is that insecurity im smelling?

 

[elindholm]

Again, how is makiing a comment that the suns looked tired as opposed to lazy attacking your team in any way.

Yes, the typical troll pattern is for you to insist that at least one comment you made was not necessarily insulting, conveniently overlooking all of the others.

That i react to personal attacks by defending my person and my teams history as well as my fanship is simply a byproduct of being called ignorant and being constantly reminded of losing the last 2 years.

Right, then you play the victim card, when you're the one who came into someone else's house and immediately starting throwing excrement on the walls to see what would stick.

Do I think i am doing somehting cleaver and distinctive? Are you serious? Its a friggen message board with fans opinions and comments, not a thesis.

Then you disavow the entire process as trivial, even though you're the one spending time on, apparently, the message boards of several teams for which you are not even a fan.

Pattern? Are you so worried about opposing opinions that you cannot even listen without the hatred? Trying to fool you? Wow. Get over yourself already.

And finally an accusation of close-mindedness and self-importance, trying to lay claim to some sort of moral high ground.

Exhaustingly typical. You've pretty much written the definition.

 

[cobbler]

Moral high ground? Self importance?

You are cracking me up! I'm loving the humor! Thanks for that.


Yes i have made sarcastic comments...especially where shaq is concerned. I have also expressed my admiration for Nash, Amare, and Hill. Those dont get me attacked on a personal level though.... go figure.

Comming in your house and throwing excrement on your walls? Can you be any more dramatic? hehehehe

I like spending time on boards and discussing ball. I love the competitiveness and hearing other fans views from across the country. Did i say its trivial, no, that was YOUR word. I just said its a forum.... not a thesis. I mean, come on, were not saving starving children here are we? Get a sense of whats real.

Its a game....we are fans.... fans support their teams and bantar with opposing fans. If you cannot handle my comments then simply ignore them.

 

[CaptainInsano]

Yes, the typical troll pattern is for you to insist that at least one comment you made was not necessarily insulting, conveniently overlooking all of the others.



Right, then you play the victim card, when you're the one who came into someone else's house and immediately starting throwing excrement on the walls to see what would stick.



Then you disavow the entire process as trivial, even though you're the one spending time on, apparently, the message boards of several teams for which you are not even a fan.



And finally an accusation of close-mindedness and self-importance, trying to lay claim to some sort of moral high ground.

Exhaustingly typical. You've pretty much written the definition.

You forgot: "Will argue with you for the sake of arguing. Even if it goes on for 30 pages."

"Agree to disagree" is basically permanent marker stricken from the troll handbook.

 

[elindholm]

I have to admit, I'm a bit ashamed of the amount of time I spend on the two Suns boards where I'm a member. But to troll around dozens of other boards, just trying to get attention by picking fights? That is truly pathetic.

 

[cobbler]

I have to admit, I'm a bit ashamed of the amount of time I spend on the two Suns boards where I'm a member. But to troll around dozens of other boards, just trying to get attention by picking fights? That is truly pathetic.

What is wrong with you guys? Is your persecution complex so strong that you cant carry on intelligent conversation? Is that all you can do is play hall monitior and act like your protecting your own little realm in the cyber world?

Here was my comment today. It was in fact a reply in support of your suns.

"I think what you are seeing, especially with teams that have endured injuries, is were 70 games in and they are hitting the wall. I dont think it can be attributed to laziness."

That's picking a fight? wow

From that the replies were. your ignorant, your a troll (for about the 20th time), that i do nothing but try to cause trouble, a liar etc etc. You come on with a list of TROLL patterns and have the gall to tell me im pathetic for trying to converse with fans from antother team, a team i happen to respect? Troll patterns? Is that what your life has come to? hehehehe Im soooooo hurt!

I believe the title of this board says:

"Discuss Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash or anything else concerning the Suns or the NBA."

not

"Discuss Amare, Nash or anything else about the suns or nba AS LONG AS YOU ARE A SUNS FAN"

i have every right to be here as you! You dont like it.... dont reply.

ps. nowhere have i said i "troll" dozens of boards. Yet another lie....

 

[elindholm]

Do you seriously not have anything better to do?

 

[cobbler]

hmmmmm.... Im at work killing a little time.

I could ask you the same question could i not?

Funny how you always have a reply....yet act as if im an idiot for responding to your insults.

Let it go! Move on. I'll certainly do so... i will not reply to anything more on this thread and agree to disagree. Again, if you dont like something i post and want to discuss it, im all for it. If you want to come with insults, i can handle that too.

Ill certainly watch my tounge the next time i try to give a little credit to your team. Yikes!

 

[elindholm]

I could ask you the same question could i not?

Sure, but this is a community that I've belonged to for years, including several people I consider friends, who discuss a team that (for better or worse) I've been a life-long fan of. You just showed up to rabble-rouse after the O'Neal trade. We aren't quite the same.

Again, if you dont like something i post and want to discuss it, im all for it.

I did, and you flew off the handle. I explained how the Suns weren't any more "tired" than anyone else, and you got all hot under the collar.

Ill certainly watch my tounge the next time i try to give a little credit to your team.

Well, if your perceptive analysis continues to be along these lines:

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez you sure are sensitive...... Must come from 40 years with no trophy and your only claim to fame being you bounced a mediocre team in round one on the road to NOWHERE. ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch

then yes, I think it's safe to say we'd all be better off without it. So if you are willing to make good on your promise to shut up, please do so.

 

[SirStefan32]

Sure, but this is a community that I've belonged to for years, including several people I consider friends, who discuss a team that (for better or worse) I've been a life-long fan of. You just showed up to rabble-rouse after the O'Neal trade. We aren't quite the same.

Exactly.