Trail Blazers @ Suns Sunday game thread 12-15-2024

[Yuma]

I like them happy as well but I also think it's important they remain cognizant of their surroundings. Beal looked toasted. He's not playing so I can't fault whatever pain management regimen he's on.

We all know @mjb21aztd needs his pain management to handle being an AZ sports fan.

As long as someone drives them home, I am good with it.

 

[ProdigalSun]

Anesthesiologists are in patient, pain management is out patient. That's how I've understood it. I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV.

We all need numbed occasionally, some more than others but Suns fans more than most

Pretty accurate. You have to complete anesthesia residency and then apply for pain medicine fellowship. It is an outpatient subspecialty

 

[Mainstreet]

Anesthesiologists are in patient, pain management is out patient. That's how I've understood it. I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV.

We all need numbed occasionally, some more than others but Suns fans more than most.

A little off-topic, but it's hard to see an anesthesiologist to get an injection because they are booked up with all the other stuff that is now considered pain management.

 

[Hoop Head]

A little off-topic, but it's hard to see an anesthesiologist to get an injection because they are booked up with all the other stuff that is now considered pain management.

Look into a local weed store. I'm not a pot smoker myself but have seen it do wonders for friends and families seeking alternative relief paths. Of course alternative to the traditional healthcare system and pharmaceutical industry. Every weed store has folks working there that can point you in the direction of a product to treat what ails you. Results vary, of course, but I've known more it's helped than not.

 

[Dback Jon]

Too close at the end!

 

[Mainstreet]

Too close at the end!

That seems to be the Suns trademark when they are winning.

 

[ProdigalSun]

A little off-topic, but it's hard to see an anesthesiologist to get an injection because they are booked up with all the other stuff that is now considered pain management.

What kind of injections are you looking to get? Depending on the location of your pain ortho or Sports medicine/physiatry may be good options

 

[Mainstreet]

What kind of injections are you looking to get? Depending on the location of your pain ortho or Sports medicine/physiatry may be good options

I'm looking for an epidural injection for my back, but since I live in a rural area, it has taken months to see anyone.

However, I am scheduled to see an anesthesiologist later this week, so hopefully it happens.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Pretty accurate. You have to complete anesthesia residency and then apply for pain medicine fellowship. It is an outpatient subspecialty

I think that's the most common path prior to the pain management fellowship but I'm pretty sure it's not a requirement. Unless it's changed. It used to be that there were sort of competing philosophies in pain management clinics. The VA I used back in the 90's switched from anesthesiologists to psychiatrists for their Pain Management clinic and they had a completely different approach in how they treated pain. And prior to the 90's my pain management doctor was a neurologist.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm looking for an epidural injection for my back, but since I live in a rural area, it has taken months to see anyone.

However, I am scheduled to see an anesthesiologist later this week, so hopefully it happens.

Good luck with that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm looking for an epidural injection for my back, but since I live in a rural area, it has taken months to see anyone.

However, I am scheduled to see an anesthesiologist later this week, so hopefully it happens.

As a three-time back surgery vet and I can’t even tell you how many epidurals, I sincerely wish you luck with whatever back maladies ail you.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Pretty underwhelming performance.

That said they’ve got a chance to gain… a little head of steam going into another tough stretch with Denver twice, Dallas, GS and Memphis (?).

 

[Mainstreet]

As a three-time back surgery vet and I can’t even tell you how many epidurals, I sincerely wish you luck with whatever back maladies ail you.

I've had a bunch of epidural injections before, even had a herniated disc, but chose not to have surgery. However, things have changed with a much worse outlook. These pain management centers are difficult to navigate when all one needs is something basic like an injection.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I've had a bunch of epidural injections before, even had a herniated disc, but chose not to have surgery. However, things have changed with a much worse outlook. These pain management centers are difficult to navigate when all one needs is something basic like an injection.

Been there, doing that for years, dude. I feel your pain, literally, as I type this while laying down on my nightly ice-pack. I think you’re a bit older than I am, but is PT an option at all? I was staring at a fourth back surgery about 6 years ago and just at the end of my rope after two different PTs did nothing for me, but finally found someone who did the trick. Didn’t make me whole again (that’ll never happen) but made life so much more manageable. It just can take a lot of trial and error to find the right person… which I understand is probably is more difficult if you’re in a rural area.

 

[Mainstreet]

Been there, doing that for years, dude. I feel your pain, literally, as I type this while laying down on my nightly ice-pack. I think you’re a bit older than I am, but is PT an option at all? I was staring at a fourth back surgery about 6 years ago and just at the end of my rope after two different PTs did nothing for me, but finally found someone who did the trick. Didn’t make me whole again (that’ll never happen) but made life so much more manageable. It just can take a lot of trial and error to find the right person… which I understand is probably is more difficult if you’re in a rural area.

I'm doing physical therapy now, but I've been told by doctors I will likely need surgery. I guess physical therapy and epidural injections are needed for insurance approval.

I don't want surgery, but the pain and immobility has made life almost unbearable.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm doing physical therapy now, but I've been told by doctors I will likely need surgery. I guess physical therapy and epidural injections are needed for insurance approval.

I don't want surgery, but the pain and immobility has made life almost unbearable.

My wife had her back surgery in 96, she still has problems regularly but they pale in comparison to what she lived with before.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm doing physical therapy now, but I've been told by doctors I will likely need surgery. I guess physical therapy and epidural injections are needed for insurance approval.

Right… they force you to go thru all the “conservative” treatments, extending your pain, most of the time hoping you give up before ever getting surgery. Played that game also.

I don't want surgery, but the pain and immobility has made life almost unbearable.

Man… I’ve been there. There’s nothing worse than an injury that requires needing back surgery. It’s the injury right in the middle of your body you can’t possibly escape from no matter what you do.

Is this L5-S1, L4-L5 lower back or higher? Do you have nerve pain in your legs? I’ve had laminectomies, micro-discectomies… you name it.

I can tell you this… all of my surgeries DID help me for a decent amount of time. First one (micro) I was pretty good for around 7 years with issues popping up here and there. The recovery from the double lammy was, won’t lie, pretty brutal, but once recovered I was pretty good for about 7 years before my issues reared their ugly head again.

 

[Mainstreet]

My wife had her back surgery in 96, she still has problems regularly but they pale in comparison to what she lived with before.

Yeah, it's a no win situation.

 

[Mainstreet]

Right… they force you to go thru all the “conservative” treatments, extending your pain, most of the time hoping you give up before ever getting surgery. Played that game also.



Man… I’ve been there. There’s nothing worse than an injury that requires needing back surgery. It’s the injury right in the middle of your body you can’t possibly escape from no matter what you do.

Is this L5-S1, L4-L5 lower back or higher? Do you have nerve pain in your legs? I’ve had laminectomies, micro-discectomies… you name it.

I can tell you this… all of my surgeries DID help me for a decent amount of time. First one (micro) I was pretty good for around 7 years with issues popping up here and there. And I was pretty good after the double lammy for about 7 years before my issues reared their ugly head again.

I'm right there with the lower back disk problems. The MRI say the condition is severe. For a while I couldn't walk, then used a walker, now trying to graduate to a cane. The pain is incredible, especially getting out of bed.

However, what I don't want is pain management doctors taking over for my other doctors. All I want is the injection.

 

[Hoop Head]

I'm right there with the lower back disk problems. The MRI say the condition is severe. For a while I couldn't walk, then used a walker, now trying to graduate to a cane. The pain is incredible, especially getting out of bed.

However, what I don't want is pain management doctors taking over for my other doctors. All I want is the injection.

It's tough dealing with that doctor hierarchy game that gets played, whether because of insurance or some doctors just push for more control or involvement. It's worse since you end up in those webs when you need care the most. I've been there and it sympathize. I hope you get through it all as quick and easy as possible. You have a lot more Suns to watch, even if they cause their own brand of pain. Hopefully it'll be your singular pain sooner than later, before a miraculous playoff run that makes us all looks foolish.

 

[ProdigalSun]

I think that's the most common path prior to the pain management fellowship but I'm pretty sure it's not a requirement. Unless it's changed. It used to be that there were sort of competing philosophies in pain management clinics. The VA I used back in the 90's switched from anesthesiologists to psychiatrists for their Pain Management clinic and they had a completely different approach in how they treated pain. And prior to the 90's my pain management doctor was a neurologist.

I thought OP was specifically referring to anesthesia specialty. You are right there are other pathways into pain medicine via physiatry, neurology, but pain med is a fellowship which requires extra couple years of training beyond completing your primary specialty

 

[95pro]

This thread needs to get back on track (bah dum tiss)

 

[AzStevenCal]

This thread needs to get back on track (bah dum tiss)

Don't be such a pain.

 

[Superbone]

You guys are spineless!

 

[Hoop Head]

You guys are spineless!

All they need are some mattress recommendations from Ayton.