Post Panthers It's Officially Impossible to Overreact Thread

[slanidrac16]

Big games? Lol, the Cardinals have had maybe 4 "big games" in the last 6 years.

Yep . And lost all of them.

 

[unseenaz]

Big games? Lol, the Cardinals have had maybe 4 "big games" in the last 6 years.

They’ve had 3 this year alone. Both Seahawks games and the panthers game. 0-3 in those games and eliminated from the playoffs

 

[D-Dogg]

They’ve had 3 this year alone. Both Seahawks games and the panthers game. 0-3 in those games and eliminated from the playoffs

"Big" games.

They had one must win and shat the bed. Everything else was position or chasing.

 

[FB94]

First Seahawks game they got ***** knocked in the dirt and they never recovered. All that swag and bravado before the bye week gone in a flash. Still have never recovered. Even the Patriots win was a ugly uninspired football

 

[Dr. Jones]

What's funny to me is that we probably win this game if they don't call that horse crap roughing call on the first Panthers series. And the carter fumble was incorrectly attributed to K1 but that was another 3 points. 7 point swings on the road kill you.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Odegaard is jumping thru hoops to not place any blame on K1

Odegaard is a complete “company man.” He is the mouthpiece of Bidwill

 

[WakeForestCard]

What's funny to me is that we probably win this game if they don't call that horse crap roughing call on the first Panthers series. And the carter fumble was incorrectly attributed to K1 but that was another 3 points. 7 point swings on the road kill you.

Fumbles are attributed to the last person to have full possession of the ball (and the QB on a botched center exchange). Carter never had possession so it was correctly (at least as far as stats go) attributed to Kyler.

 

[Russ Smith]

Said this in the game thread and it's still bugging me. There's a play in I think the 3rd quarter where Young checks down late and throws the ball to the right sideline and Pappoe #44 comes flying over and drills the guy and celebrates and walks off the field. Even live it looked like it but on replay it looks for all the world like if he had played the ball instead of going for the big hit it would have been a picksix?

Anybody else see this and agree or am I wrong? I can't find a replay but I said it at the time if we lose that play is going to haunt me.

 

[slanidrac16]

Said this in the game thread and it's still bugging me. There's a play in I think the 3rd quarter where Young checks down late and throws the ball to the right sideline and Pappoe #44 comes flying over and drills the guy and celebrates and walks off the field. Even live it looked like it but on replay it looks for all the world like if he had played the ball instead of going for the big hit it would have been a picksix?

Anybody else see this and agree or am I wrong? I can't find a replay but I said it at the time if we lose that play is going to haunt me.

I remember and thought the same thing. It was the safe play but definitely a chance to be a huge play.

 

[kerouac9]

My thoughts on Kyler Murray… He has a specific skillset. He is a threat to run and he is very quick and shifty when he does. If you don’t use that then you are not taking full advantage of his value. He becomes a short pocket passer that has a tendency to panic when under pressure. He has a decent arm but he doesn’t always have vision to see the field, so open receivers are missed.
If he gets hurt running then that’s the gamble you take but the alternative is what we are seeing now.
There is an offensive coordinator somewhere that understands the importance of designing your offensive scheme around the particular skill sets of your QB, but he doesn’t work for AZ. By the time he gets traded it may be too late for him to display this skillset as KM is already a bit gun-shy to run now.
Remember pre bye when Kyler was running more and we were winning games?
Post bye he doesn’t run much and we’re losers.
See any correlation?

Kyler’s skill set is too limited to win in the NFL, unfortunately

 

[kerouac9]

Odegaard is a complete “company man.” He is the mouthpiece of Bidwill

No he’s not. He hates Bidwill.

 

[MrYeahBut]

No he’s not. He hates Bidwill.

All of us hate Bidwill.

 

[Russ Smith]

One of the issues that we clearly have with Kyler and always have is that when he makes one of those great Kyler runs, he's so gassed he's not very good for the next play or 2. It's gotten better the last 2 years because we have a better run game but I think teams have sort of figured it out. When Kyler runs for more than a few yards to get a first down, the next 2 plays are almost certainly going to be Conner runs or a screen so Kyler can get his wind back.

Happened a couple of times again today

 

[Cheesebeef]

Big games? Lol, the Cardinals have had maybe 4 "big games" in the last 6 years.

No offense D-Dogg, but this is an unbelievably stupid comment from someone who just wants to deflect blame from a QB they like… for reasons beyond me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

"Big" games.

They had one must win and shat the bed. Everything else was position or chasing.

Lol… this defense of Kyler is a joke.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Whos the the next team to w 1 playoff series in next 10ys not lookin to great on both lol sad times in az sports land and near xmas to ouch lol ((

 

[Card4Life]

11 penalties
The most points ever by a Bryce Young offense
Another Kyler panic pick
More key drops by MHJ
Running the ball on 2nd and long when we need points
Conner getting run into the ground

What are we doing here? Aside from Conner and McBride, what do we have to build on?

I can't wait for Monti to re-sign Kyzir White so he can extend his streak of signing guys who are overvalued because of their big hearts.

And Conner's no spring chicken. I absolutely love the guy. He is a warrior, but he will be 30 next season, which is getting up there for a RB.

 

[Russ Smith]

And Conner's no spring chicken. I absolutely love the guy. He is a warrior, but he will be 30 next season, which is getting up there for a RB.

He's already signed though. I hadn't realized White was a FA so unless he comes back relatively cheap we probably have to replace him too. Not a great player but you can win with guys like that if you have better DL's.

It's tough, I love Budda, great guy but he is what he is doesn't get picks or frankly even many fumbles, and at least once a game he comes sprinting up and overruns a run play giving up a big run. The biggest play against Seattle was that for a TD by Charbonnet, today it was the run by Hubbard in the OT to set up the game winner. Maybe he'd get more turnovers if we had more pass rush but I just don't think he's very good in coverage

 

[HairZach]

First Seahawks game they got ***** knocked in the dirt and they never recovered. All that swag and bravado before the bye week gone in a flash. Still have never recovered. Even the Patriots win was a ugly uninspired football

In retrospect I think the Vikings game was a superb effort by the defense and everyone on offense expect for MHJ. If Marv had hauled in more than 5 of his 12 targets that was a hard fought win.

 

[Card4Life]

He's already signed though. I hadn't realized White was a FA so unless he comes back relatively cheap we probably have to replace him too. Not a great player but you can win with guys like that if you have better DL's.

It's tough, I love Budda, great guy but he is what he is doesn't get picks or frankly even many fumbles, and at least once a game he comes sprinting up and overruns a run play giving up a big run. The biggest play against Seattle was that for a TD by Charbonnet, today it was the run by Hubbard in the OT to set up the game winner. Maybe he'd get more turnovers if we had more pass rush but I just don't think he's very good in coverage

Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled that Conner will be back next year. My point was, that if we are still in a rebuild next year, we may be looking for a RB 1 in 2026 due to Conner's age at that time.

 

[Russ Smith]

Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled that Conner will be back next year. My point was, that if we are still in a rebuild next year, we may be looking for a RB 1 in 2026 due to Conner's age at that time.

gotcha. I think Benson is going to be that guy

 

[D-Dogg]

No offense D-Dogg, but this is an unbelievably stupid comment from someone who just wants to deflect blame from a QB they like… for reasons beyond me.

Wait, tf you think I'm defending Kyler?

This team hasn't had a "big game" in forever. The home Seahawk game was the first one in forever, and K1 shat the bed in it. Ended the season right there, for all intents and purposes.

 

[D-Dogg]

Lol… this defense of Kyler is a joke.

How do you even logic leap that? K1 is the guy who shat the bed in the only big game we've had. Smh.

 

[602 Native]

Odegaard is a complete “company man.” He is the mouthpiece of Bidwill

Dude hates Mikey

 

[Stout]

Fumbles are attributed to the last person to have full possession of the ball (and the QB on a botched center exchange). Carter never had possession so it was correctly (at least as far as stats go) attributed to Kyler.

It was also Kyler's fault in actual fact, too.