Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[Covert Rain]

I don't know. Even considering their injuries the Suns are heavily underachieving, IMO.

The wins are close and unconvincing, the losses are hopeless.

Underachieving for sure but when everyone was playing they had a good record and top 10 defense. The problem is the sample size is so small with them healthy. That goes back to what I said about Bud’s system being heavily reliant on having his horses. It was the same way with the Bucks.

 

[GatorAZ]

The Durant era's high point is probably going to be beating a (George and Leonard lacking) Clippers team in the first round.

Giving up SGA and those picks is brutal but we have hardly even begun to pay the debt and it's doubtful that we compete for anything for a long while.

We gained nothing... absolutely nothing by trading for KD, and the cost will likely be, even the idea of, competitive basketball for a decade.

The PG trade was unquestionably horrific, but at least the Clips made a conference final, their team actually IMPROVED for a time and their draft deficit will like likely pail in comparison to our own.

Why is making the conference finals important when the goal of that trade was a championship? Same goes for the Suns. Both fell short but at least we didn’t lose a perennial MVP candidate and still paying a corpse to rot on the bench.

 

[Mainstreet]

Only thinking out loud. However, when Kevin Durant decided to wait for a two-year extension, I can't help but think there was a mutual agreement with the Suns this would happen here.

If such is the case, it makes blowing up the team even more unlikely.

 

[Ronin]

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Duane Rankin

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"I'm always going to feel like I want to get us organized, I want to initiate the offense, get our guys in the right spot. I take pride in that. There are also going to be times where Kevin is going to initiate, Book is going to initiate, Brad is going to initiate." Tyus Jones.

 

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Duane Rankin

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FYI: Devin Booker was on the court when the Suns opened up media availability Tuesday morning as Phoenix faces the Memphis Grizzlies at Footprint Center.

 

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[Finito]

The Kawhi era was a disaster he’s literally never been healthy for a playoff run. There’s still two and half years left on his contract.

SGA is a top-5 player and the catalyst of a west giant for the foreseeable future. Can’t believe you’re arguing this.

You know who OKC needs to put them over the top? Kevin Durant!

I’ll take 4 1st and whatever bad expiring contracts you wanna get rid of

 

[hcsilla]

You know who OKC needs to put them over the top? Kevin Durant!

I’ll take 4 1st and whatever bad expiring contracts you wanna get rid of

Too bad that they don't have any bad contracts.

 

[GatorAZ]

You know who OKC needs to put them over the top? Kevin Durant!

I’ll take 4 1st and whatever bad expiring contracts you wanna get rid of

Presti knows KD better than anyone and doesn’t want the nonchalant stoner vibe around their young core. No offense @mjb21aztd

 

[Phrazbit]

You know who OKC needs to put them over the top? Kevin Durant!

I’ll take 4 1st and whatever bad expiring contracts you wanna get rid of

I think they kinda hate him there.

 

[Proximo]

I like Budenholzer also. I don't blame him for the results. We have essentially the same winning percentage we did at this time last year, with similar health to the Big 3. This team is built horribly. Budenholzer saw what happened to Vogel here and knew what would happen if there weren't big improvements so he got his if he was going to be scapegoated also.

I think we'll see how much, if any, power Bud has regarding the roster by the trade deadline. If a big move isn't made, then he's simply along for the ride. I'd think that's a shame because he is a good coach but the players here are nothing like he had success with in Milwaukee or Atlanta. In Milwaukee he had a team built around a star in Giannis, who was a DPOY candidate as well as offensive beast, and we don't have that. In Atlanta he had a team that played their roles for each other and we clearly don't have that. We have a bunch of hired guns looking for paydays or guys "just hooping". Ego is a massive problem here and we can't fix it unless we remove the biggest ego, IMO.

There is no big moves that can be made unless he can convince Ishbia to start the rebuild.

 

[Proximo]

Why is making the conference finals important when the goal of that trade was a championship? Same goes for the Suns. Both fell short but at least we didn’t lose a perennial MVP candidate and still paying a corpse to rot on the bench.

Yeah I have to agree, to me the Clippers have failed even harder - but we do have more years of no first rounders so they may do better in the end.

 

[hcsilla]

IIRC, Myles Turner was rumored to be another trade option when Ayton had more value.

He wasn't really. Turner came up when rumours of the Pacers signing Ayton to a big offer sheet started to circle and it was rumoured that they offered Turner as a sign-and-trade for Ayton.