2007 Cardinals: The Hiring Process Is A Joke

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I see exactly the opposite Mitch. They look prepared and are going through an exhaustive process rather than picking a guy who looks good on the surface.

An example might be Rivera, if the reports are true about his bombing on the offensive side of the discussion. Regardless it looks to me like they are doing their homework. This contrasts with how they picked DG.

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Incorrect...the other thread links it. Chan is interviewing in Pittsburgh on Saturday, not here.

Gambo probably said it...and he's an idiot.
 

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Incorrect...the other thread links it. Chan is interviewing in Pittsburgh on Saturday, not here.

Gambo probably said it...and he's an idiot.

So did you hear that Leinart is in Las Vegas to interview Pete Carroll?
 

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Yes, Renz. Really, is there a better coach for the job?

IMO, the Cardinals blew it when they stuck Jake Plummer (then their highly paid QBOP&F) with a defensive HC and first year OCs.

The key to this organization's Super Bowl chances over the next five years is Matt Leinart. If he plays at the highest level it will create a mystique around this team and franchise. Whose hands do you want him in?

How about the guy who led Matt to a Heisman Trophy and an NCAA Championship?

I like Chow as a candidate, but I have no idea what he said in his interviews. Maybe he came across as indecisive or clueless about defense. Either way, I'm content to let the process play out a while longer. Hopefully, with a little time, the best candidate will separate himself from the others.
 

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The thing that I don't like about the situation is that they are retaining these assistant coaches for whatever reason and asking their new head coach to give them a shot. No matter what the intent is, it gives the appearance that they are trying to save money because they do not want to pay two separate coaching staffs. If this were the case; they could have fired Green mid season, handed the reigns to Pendergrass who they seem to like and given him 8 games to show what type of coach he could have been. Instead they wait to the end of the season, fire the head coach and basically request to retain a handful of guys. It just does not make much sense.
 

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[With three months to work with, why didn't the Bidwills and Rod Graves do their homework and narrow down to three (at the most) candidates to interview?...with a pre-conceived idea of who their first choice would be.

It's not that difficult to do...especially seeing as all the candidates on the Cardinals' long list were virtually guaranteed to be available, seeing as they are all coordinators or assistant head coaches.]

Because they wanted to cast a wide net and do in depth interviews with ALL the candidates to find out the approach and tactics that each prospective coach would take to bring the Cardinals more victories and success. Why would they want to restrict a search and hiring process which is this critical to just three candidates? IMO, you want a wider net than just three. And without doing in-depth interviews with each and every candidate, you really can't determine whether one of your second tier candidates might jump to the top of your list during the process.




[Then...to absolutlely muddle and confound matters, comes the preposterous decision of retaining seven assistant coaches...which immediately handicaps a new coach's negotiations with the team.

This is a joke. And if an excellent candidate like Norm Chow is being looked over because he wants a clean slate and his own staff...imagine how stupid that is.]
Isn't Pittsburgh doing the exact same thing(retaining assistants)? To me it makes absolute sense to give the final choice the opportunity to retain current coaches (or not.) As far as we know the rumor about Chow moving down the list because of the assistants issue is just that, a rumor.

[Just look at what Atlanta did...they obviously had Bobby Petrino in mind and they expedited the process to get him...which shows that they have a good idea of the type of coach they want and it shows that they are smart enough to realize that if they don't hop on Petrino right away, they may run the risk of losing him to another NFL team.]
That's just conjecture on your part. Also, Atlanta paid thru the nose for Petrino IMO, and it remains to be seen whether he bucks the trend of college coaches failing in the NFL. See Steve Spurrier and numerous others.

[It would have been a refreshing change for the Cardinals to go into the process knowing exactly who they want to be the next head coach.]
It would have premature and would have short-circuited the process to have a preconceived notion of the coach without doing the due diligence. I, and many others, would have rightly lambasted them for jumping at the flavor of the week.


PFW is right...if a team calls a candidate back for a second interview, it should be to talk turkey and make the hire...not to have the candidate meet with the retained DC, whom, I'd be willing to bet, none of the candidates want as his own DC.

All of this just smacks of paralyzing indecision...an on-going rift in organizational procedure and philosophy...and a general sense that team management really doesn't know what they are doing.

None of what has transpired in this process inspires confidence in us the fans, does it?
How about waiting and see how the process ends instead of pre-judging the result because they didn't jump on your favorite? For all we know, the process is working as planned. Second interviews for important positions are common in business and as we've learned. the Dolphins are even going to third interviews. Nothing wrong with being thorough. We actually know that with Sherman, his wife did not have the opportunity to accompany him on the first visit.

PFT, not PFW, is proving to be an amateurish operation of dubish credibility. I'll take the kudos of respected ESPN reporter Len Pasqurelli, over the hacks at PFT anytime.
 
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I like Chow as a candidate, but I have no idea what he said in his interviews. Maybe he came across as indecisive or clueless about defense. Either way, I'm content to let the process play out a while longer. Hopefully, with a little time, the best candidate will separate himself from the others.

Renz...think of it...Chow said two of the smartest things I have heard in the pressers....he said that he wants a defense (run by a DC) that HE would have a hard time beating as an OC (don't you think Norm Chow knows a little something about what kind of defenses are hardest to beat?) and...he said that he wanted CBs who can cover man for man (do you think he watched a little Cardinal tapes?).
 

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Nidan...I understand your point of view...but, Rivera could have been on the three man list to begin with...

And what you haven't addressed is the issue of the retained assistant coaches and how that hampers the process.

You take a candidate like Norm Chow...what you see is what you get...the guy has helped produce a string of trophies wherever he has been...he has the Midas touch with QBs and offenses...what's to refute about that? How his track record AND, better yet, his relationship with Matt Leinart wouldn't make him a leading candidate and a great choice for the prospects of this program, is beyond any reason I can think of...sure, he's 60 and has never been a head coach, but 60 is young these days...and all but one of the Cardinals' candidates have never been an NFL head coach either. With all Chow's experience, there's no question in my mind whether he would know what it takes to be a great head coach.

Really... Based on what?

I think Chow is a terrible choice as a Head Coach. Brilliant coordinator, terrible head coach. He has ONE year of NFL experience. Chow cannot IMO have learned what it takes to run a NFL team in only one season.

He would IMO become another version of Dick Labeau.

I believe your post is extremely biased, Mitch. You're criticizing the entire process, because your guy is out of the picture. With the Steelers delaying the process we're suddenly the frontrunners for hiring Whisenhunt - the consensus best HC candidate on the marked. How is that a bad thing?
 

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He has ONE year of NFL experience. Chow cannot IMO have learned what it takes to run a NFL team in only one season.

Chow has been OC for two years.
 

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The thing that I don't like about the situation is that they are retaining these assistant coaches for whatever reason and asking their new head coach to give them a shot. No matter what the intent is, it gives the appearance that they are trying to save money because they do not want to pay two separate coaching staffs. If this were the case; they could have fired Green mid season, handed the reigns to Pendergrass who they seem to like and given him 8 games to show what type of coach he could have been. Instead they wait to the end of the season, fire the head coach and basically request to retain a handful of guys. It just does not make much sense.

This post is far too intelligent. It must be the Cardinals we're discussing.
 

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Here is my problem. I wouldn't care if the Cards interviewed 10 guys or 5 guys 2 times each as long I thought they knew what they were doing. However, seeing who is in charge of the FO I have my doubts. Also, if I knew their motivation wasn't more about not relenting too much money or power to the next HC.

If this is really about getting the best available coach then great and all the more power to them. However, a tiger can't change it's stripes and MB's idea of a good fit goes way beyond coaching reasons IMO. I hope I am wrong.
 

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IMO, everyone knew Green was gone early-on. The Cardinals should have already been looking at a short list of candidates if the FO knew what they were doing. Continuing to interview a long list of candidates just makes me think they they do not know what they are doing... like hire a competent HC. Again, it all starts with ownership.

I also hope I am very, very wrong.
 

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IMO, everyone knew Green was gone early-on. The Cardinals should have already been looking at a short list of candidates if the FO knew what they were doing. Continuing to interview a long list of candidates just makes me think they they do not know what they are doing... like hire a competent HC. Again, it all starts with ownership.

I also hope I am very, very wrong.

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The thing that I don't like about the situation is that they are retaining these assistant coaches for whatever reason and asking their new head coach to give them a shot. No matter what the intent is, it gives the appearance that they are trying to save money because they do not want to pay two separate coaching staffs. If this were the case; they could have fired Green mid season, handed the reigns to Pendergrass who they seem to like and given him 8 games to show what type of coach he could have been. Instead they wait to the end of the season, fire the head coach and basically request to retain a handful of guys. It just does not make much sense.

The Cardinals already did that in 2000 and it produced an 11 game run of disasters unequaled since the days in Chicago. 1-10 and just hammered in almost every game, out scored 305 to 120!. The terrible play didn't really end until halfway through the following season.

So it could be that history kept them from trying it again.

As for the Cardinal front office they have demonstrated to me over the course of many years that they are either clueless or hopelessly jinxed and, unlike some posters, they're going to have to show me over a long period of time that things have changed before I'll start believing that the light has suddenly switched on at Hardy and Warner.

The Cardinals are like a local dive where the owner is a nice guy and keeps hiring new managers and bartenders to try to improve the place but it keeps deteriorating back into a dive with multiple brawls every weekend. I keep going because I have friends who hang out there and they serve my favorite beer on tap and keep hoping they'll finally hire Patrick Swayze.
 

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The Cards did go into this knowing who they wanted, but yesterday they decided not to close the deal with Shermy.
 

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The Cards did go into this knowing who they wanted, but yesterday they decided not to close the deal with Shermy.

That's an assumption as well. If correct, the report only said Sherm wanted $4 mil. Not that the Cards offered anything. Very big difference in me telling a company my salary requirements and them making an offer.
 

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The Cards did go into this knowing who they wanted, but yesterday they decided not to close the deal with Shermy.

That's because they were like an old lady with sticker shock who just found out she arrived at the sale a day late.
 

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The Cardinals are completing their homework and will make a decision when they feel they are ready...alacrity in decisions is really not the important thing here.

And perhaps the reason they need a second interview and are slow in their decision making process is that they are not "football guys". I just don't see a Bill Walsh, or (insert name here) handling matters in this fashion.

I'm with you Mitch. Way too many candidates. Prepardness would have had that list cut in half by the time the season ended.
 

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I have to agree with your take on this. The Bidwill's are damned if they do & damned if they don't. Had they rushed into a decision like they did with McGinnis & Green, then everyone would be critics. They are trying to avoid making the same mistake by interviewing extensively. I see nothing wrong with it, especially if they are waiting for someone's team to be dropping out of the playoffs. I recently read a local article regarding the Steelers & how long their search took when they hired both Noll & Cowher. Hell, Cowher was interviewed 3-4 times before the Rooney's chose him. When you consider that they've had 2 coaches in like 130 yrs, I'll take that approach every time.

Good point. Except the Steelers have won. And won a lot. They can take as much or as little time as they want as far as I'm concerned.
 
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