2015-16 Around the NBA

[Ronin]

Report: Sixers to explore trades for Jahlil Okafor, Nerlens Noel
Possibly on the trade block, according to Chad Ford and Marc Stein of ESPN.
The Philadelphia 76ers will explore trading Jahlil Okafor and Nerlens Noel in the buildup to the NBA draft on June 23, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN that the Sixers are determined to gauge the trade market for both Okafor and Noel and are increasingly likely to move at least one of them in conjunction with the draft, in which Philadelphia holds the No. 1 overall selection for the first time since selecting Allen Iverson in 1996.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/05/27/report-sixers-to-explore-trades-for-jahlil-okafor-nerlens-noel/

 

[Sunburn]

Guys like Beal aren't worth max money, even off of rookie deals when their max is a fair bit smaller than the max of someone like Durant, who will also be a free agent this offseason. While everyone can say he's not worth it, if Washington pays it that hurts the NBA as a whole because it sets the market price for an above average SG this offseason. If Beal gets a max contract there is no way someone like Barnes will settle for much less than the same.

I wish the NBA worked something into the next CBA about how players can't earn the same max if they aren't "All-Stars" similar to how the Derrick Rose rule allows players coming off of rookie deals to earn a veteran max if they meet certain criteria. I don't recall how the %'s work but something like a player who hasn't been named to an All-Star, All-NBA, or All-Defensive team isn't able to earn more than a 20% max, while those who do meet it can earn up to 25%. I'd like to guaranteed deals go away but that won't happen, having more performance based perks tied into contracts though could help encourage players, even on bad teams, and help save owners/gm's from themselves, which still seems to be a big issue.

All-star games are popularity contests. That might end up being unfair.

 

[Sunburn]

Channing Frye has definitely looked worthy of 8 mil per year in the playoffs. Good Lord has he been deadly from 3. Great pick-up for Cleveland. I miss him.

 

[Ronin]

Shams Charania ‏@ShamsCharania 39m39 minutes ago
Pelicans' Bryce Dejean-Jones suffered gun shot to abdomen late Friday, bled to death. Full story coming on passing of promising 23-year-old.

 

[Errntknght]

Channing Frye has definitely looked worthy of 8 mil per year in the playoffs. Good Lord has he been deadly from 3. Great pick-up for Cleveland. I miss him.

IIRC, Channing was like 1 for 20 in the playoff series where we needed him to step up. Last thing I wanted was more of that kind of shooting in in the crunch. He also shot miserably down the stretch another year, doing his bit to keep us out of the playoffs. I don't miss that one bit.

 

[Joe Mama]

IIRC, Channing was like 1 for 20 in the playoff series where we needed him to step up. Last thing I wanted was more of that kind of shooting in in the crunch. He also shot miserably down the stretch another year, doing his bit to keep us out of the playoffs. I don't miss that one bit.

you do realize his presence was the single biggest reason we were in the playoff hunt that year and frankly one of if not the biggest factors in our trip to the conference finals the year you are talking about? It's not 1990 anymore

 

[JCSunsfan]

People hated Frye that year like people hate Knight this year. Its true. Complained about his defense, rebounding, post game. Even complained about his outside shooting because he was supposed to be a pf and shouldnt be doing that.

 

[GatorAZ]

IIRC, Channing was like 1 for 20 in the playoff series where we needed him to step up. Last thing I wanted was more of that kind of shooting in in the crunch. He also shot miserably down the stretch another year, doing his bit to keep us out of the playoffs. I don't miss that one bit.

Odom destroyed him that series.

 

[Errntknght]

you do realize his presence was the single biggest reason we were in the playoff hunt that year and frankly one of if not the biggest factors in our trip to the conference finals the year you are talking about? It's not 1990 anymore

1990? I think the year was 2009-10. Our whole second unit played great that year, and Frye shot very well but I would not give him anything like sole credit for the team's performance or even for the second unit - Dragic Dudley and Amundson are the ones that stand out in my memory from the second team. Nash, Amare, Hill and Richardson made the first team potent so I'm not taking anything away from them - Heck, Lopez had a very good second half.

 

[Phrazbit]

Frye's misses didn't bother me anywhere near as much as when he'd stop shooting. He'd have these stretches where he'd pass up one open look after another; the team is out there, running plays designed to get him a look at 3, Frye gets the look and then passes the ball to someone else on the perimeter and now the team has to scramble to create a play. I'd rather he shot and missed than fall into that routine.

 

[sunsfan88]

you do realize his presence was the single biggest reason we were in the playoff hunt that year and frankly one of if not the biggest factors in our trip to the conference finals the year you are talking about? It's not 1990 anymore

This isn't really true. The Suns actually started a huge winning streak in the 2nd half of that season (where they won like 12 or 14 straight headed into the playoffs) after Frye was benched from the starting lineup and replaced with Lopez.

He was also absolute trash in the Lakers WCF series except the game 4.

 

[Joe Mama]

This isn't really true. The Suns actually started a huge winning streak in the 2nd half of that season (where they won like 12 or 14 straight headed into the playoffs) after Frye was benched from the starting lineup and replaced with Lopez.

He was also absolute trash in the Lakers WCF series except the game 4.

Okay, I'll freely admit I went a little overboard in my defensive Channing Frye. I stand by what I said about your surprise 48 win season.

I'm sorry but I don't have time to go back and look at that stretch, but I swear I had done it when the same argument came up a couple years ago. I believe if you go look at the games during that stretch Channing Frye played just as many or more minutes as he had been the rest of the season and his +/- will really good… like best or second best on the team. IIRC

I know Channing Frye went through some rough patches, but even during those periods his presence usually opened things up for the rest of the team. Even during his worst slumps there were very few times where teams let him shoot open shots by design. He definitely had some rough playoff games that year, and i will apologize again for saying that he was the biggest reason for the trip to the finals. I still believe his presence was a big part of their success, but I definitely want overboard.

I agreed with most than the Phoenix Suns made the right move by not paying as much or more than Orlando to keep Channing Frye. That's mostly because I'm notoriously cheap. Still, I knew it was going to be a big blow, especially to our two point guards (actually three of them after that summer). Still , if this wasn't such a god-awful draft I would say we are probably better off today without him. Seriously is there any other team that comes close to the Phoenix Suns as far as having bad luck/no luck in the draft?

Anyhow, just wanted to say that even though I rarely contribute any more I still enjoy checking in and reading people's thoughts about the team.

Joe

 

[JCSunsfan]

Okay, I'll freely admit I went a little overboard in my defensive Channing Frye. I stand by what I said about your surprise 48 win season.



I'm sorry but I don't have time to go back and look at that stretch, but I swear I had done it when the same argument came up a couple years ago. I believe if you go look at the games during that stretch Channing Frye played just as many or more minutes as he had been the rest of the season and his +/- will really good… like best or second best on the team. IIRC



I know Channing Frye went through some rough patches, but even during those periods his presence usually opened things up for the rest of the team. Even during his worst slumps there were very few times where teams let him shoot open shots by design. He definitely had some rough playoff games that year, and i will apologize again for saying that he was the biggest reason for the trip to the finals. I still believe his presence was a big part of their success, but I definitely want overboard.



I agreed with most than the Phoenix Suns made the right move by not paying as much or more than Orlando to keep Channing Frye. That's mostly because I'm notoriously cheap. Still, I knew it was going to be a big blow, especially to our two point guards (actually three of them after that summer). Still , if this wasn't such a god-awful draft I would say we are probably better off today without him. Seriously is there any other team that comes close to the Phoenix Suns as far as having bad luck/no luck in the draft?



Anyhow, just wanted to say that even though I rarely contribute any more I still enjoy checking in and reading people's thoughts about the team.



Joe

Miss your posts Joe. So glad to hear from you.

 

[sunsfan88]

Okay, I'll freely admit I went a little overboard in my defensive Channing Frye. I stand by what I said about your surprise 48 win season.

I'm sorry but I don't have time to go back and look at that stretch, but I swear I had done it when the same argument came up a couple years ago. I believe if you go look at the games during that stretch Channing Frye played just as many or more minutes as he had been the rest of the season and his +/- will really good… like best or second best on the team. IIRC

I know Channing Frye went through some rough patches, but even during those periods his presence usually opened things up for the rest of the team. Even during his worst slumps there were very few times where teams let him shoot open shots by design. He definitely had some rough playoff games that year, and i will apologize again for saying that he was the biggest reason for the trip to the finals. I still believe his presence was a big part of their success, but I definitely want overboard.

I agreed with most than the Phoenix Suns made the right move by not paying as much or more than Orlando to keep Channing Frye. That's mostly because I'm notoriously cheap. Still, I knew it was going to be a big blow, especially to our two point guards (actually three of them after that summer). Still , if this wasn't such a god-awful draft I would say we are probably better off today without him. Seriously is there any other team that comes close to the Phoenix Suns as far as having bad luck/no luck in the draft?

Anyhow, just wanted to say that even though I rarely contribute any more I still enjoy checking in and reading people's thoughts about the team.

Joe

You should contribute, different opinions and viewpoints bring better discussion.

As for Frye, yes they definitely struggled but I think they should have replaced him adequately with another stretch 4 rather than a guy like Anthony Tolliver.

 

[Ronin]

D'antoni to the Rockets is official.

Houston Rockets ‏@HoustonRockets 9m9 minutes ago
OFFICIAL: #Rockets name Mike D’Antoni as Head Coach.

 

[sunsfan88]

D'antoni to the Rockets is official.

I'm amazed that he continues to get opportunities even though he holds a 188-254 record since leaving the Suns. Not to mention that he has disgracefully left every team he's coached thus far.

I find it funny that Morey hires D'Antoni after he says this

http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets...-improving-defense-a-priority-for-7384770.php

 

[Ronin]

I'm amazed that he continues to get opportunities even though he holds a 188-254 record since leaving the Suns. Not to mention that he has disgracefully left every team he's coached thus far.

I find it funny that Morey hires D'Antoni after he says this

http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets...-improving-defense-a-priority-for-7384770.php

I thought this was odd. The article focused solely on his accomplishments in Phoenix, and totally ignored what he did/didn't do in NY & LA.
http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-name-mike-dantoni-head-coach

 

[Ronin]

Marc SteinVerified account ‏@ESPNSteinLine 21m21 minutes ago
NBA sources say Mike Brown is also a candidate for an assistant coach post with Golden State next season but Memphis is more likely for now.

 

[Ronin]

ProBasketballTalk ‏@nbcprobballtalk 39s39 seconds ago
As expected, Clippers’ Austin Rivers and Wesley Johnson will opt out of contracts, become free agents[

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can't wait to hear the excuses from that one DA fan when he fails with his third consecutive team.

 

[Ronin]

ProBasketballTalk ‏@nbcprobballtalk 44s44 seconds ago
Report: Jeff Hornacek (Knicks) and Mike D’Antoni (Rockets) each making $5 million per season

 

[chickenhead]

D'Antoni is situational, like an NFL coach-QB combination. I think he could be successful with the Warriors (duh), or with the Clippers/Chris Paul (though I mean conference finals, not necessarily the finals or a title). NYK was clearly the wrong situation; Nash was too old/injured in LAL, and I think the Rockets need an upgrade from Beverley.

 

[Mainstreet]

D'Antoni is situational, like an NFL coach-QB combination. I think he could be successful with the Warriors (duh), or with the Clippers/Chris Paul (though I mean conference finals, not necessarily the finals or a title). NYK was clearly the wrong situation; Nash was too old/injured in LAL, and I think the Rockets need an upgrade from Beverley.

This is how I view it although the Rockets will need to fix their PG situation.

Somehow it seems the Suns could benefit from this situation.

Maybe the Rockets need Brandon Knight to run their offense. I would be interested in Patrick Beverley as a backup PG but it would take more to make it work.

 

[Hoop Head]

This is how I view it although the Rockets will need to fix their PG situation.

Somehow it seems the Suns could benefit from this situation.

Maybe the Rockets need Brandon Knight to run their offense. I would be interested in Patrick Beverley as a backup PG but it would take more to make it work.

Unless the Rockets acquire a veteran replacement for Beverly I wouldn't be surprised to see D'Antoni use Harden as their PG. He has the handles and can create for others. He's averaged over 6 assists per game while in Houston and over 7 the last 2 years. He's not that big for a SG as is it is and he's already been their primary ball handler the last 2 years. When D'Antonio took over the season before Nash came here, when Frank Johnson was fired, he used Joe Johnson at PG a lot. If the team didn't acquire Nash it wouldn't have surprised me to see JJ get more time at PG the next season. JJ played backup PG more than Barbosa did that first season with Nash also.

Beverly doesn't really fit in D'Antonio's system since he's not a very good shooter and not a great distributor. He did shoot 40% from 3 last season but only 43% overall, for his career he's a 41% FG shooter and 37% 3 point shooter. He's only average 3.2 assists as a starter, which would be awful if Harden wasn't distributing a little more than twice that next to him. I think Beverly will be made available but I'm not sure if they'd be interested in Knight. The salaries don't match either with Beverly making $6 million a year, which is a little less than half of what Knight is due.

 

[Ronin]

The Vertical ‏@TheVertical 5m5 minutes ago
Raptors extend Dwane Casey. @TheVertical Pods with @WojVerticalNBA.