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Hell no to Kaminski.
If i was being realistic(and i hate being realistic because it's a crime that this Suns team will be picking around #14/#15) I like the young kid Myles Turner in that range. He's not really NBA ready but has a great NBA body, can face up and shoot, and he's a decent rim protector on the other end. Of course i'd MUCH rather prefer a PF who works his game inside out and starts the offense...but the Suns don't look at those guys. Myles Turner would be a fit as a stretch 4 with high upside and could be available at our slot.
 

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Hell no to Kaminski.
If i was being realistic(and i hate being realistic because it's a crime that this Suns team will be picking around #14/#15) I like the young kid Myles Turner in that range. He's not really NBA ready but has a great NBA body, can face up and shoot, and he's a decent rim protector on the other end. Of course i'd MUCH rather prefer a PF who works his game inside out and starts the offense...but the Suns don't look at those guys. Myles Turner would be a fit as a stretch 4 with high upside and could be available at our slot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Sun's pick will be #13, maybe 12 if we loose both remaining games and Utah wins one of theirs. Had we lost the game that we should have lost (due to blown call by official)we would have a better shot at the #12.
 

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Well, since you asked for it...



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You're welcome. :p

Have always had a hard time with English - used to be when I was a "Ute" like in "My Cousin Vinny" I couldn't spell enineer and now I are one.... You English majors are all alike :)
 

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Have always had a hard time with English - used to be when I was a "Ute" like in "My Cousin Vinny" I couldn't spell enineer and now I are one.... You English majors are all alike :)

I think it's correctly misspelled as "yewt".;)
 

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If we draft another point guard or small forward, I think I am going to hurl.

What do you guys think about Myles Turner from Texas?
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/myles-turner
He's young, but at least he is big.

If not him, I might be willing to take a chance on Frank Kaminsky rather than draft another 18 year old PG or SF that probably won't even see the Court for the next 2 years.
 

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if the BPA is a guard or point guard you pick him.

We need one more PG in the rotation, pereferably one with size like Kris Dunn.


Knight/Goodwin
Bledsoe/???
 

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Root very hard for Utah to win today.

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Well according to Sam Amico tweet D'angelo Russell has made it official and is headed to the NBA.


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I want us to go big and get either Myles Turner, Bobby Portis, Frank Kaminsky or Kevon Looney.

Ship out the twins with Gerald Green and shop Bledsoe for something good. Then we have some pieces in Len, Brandon Knight (maybe), Goodwin, Warren and the rookie. There's your starting five right there. Give them loads of playing time so they get experience and a high draft pick next year.
 

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I want us to go big and get either Myles Turner, Bobby Portis, Frank Kaminsky or Kevon Looney.

Ship out the twins with Gerald Green and shop Bledsoe for something good. Then we have some pieces in Len, Brandon Knight (maybe), Goodwin, Warren and the rookie. There's your starting five right there. Give them loads of playing time so they get experience and a high draft pick next year.

I'm not sure what to make of Looney. I knew he was a one and done, and he was a terrific rebounder and a great kid but in the NBA I'm not sure yet where he plays?

He improved his shot during the season,he can handle the ball although he's pretty right handed and seems to always go right to left which got scouted as the season went on. He's not a post up guy, has to get a ton stronger. he's similar to Joe Smith I guess but not nearly as effective inside as a scorer. Most of his points were putbacks or jumpshots.

He improved defensively as the year went on, early on he was totally lost, blocked shots but was always out of position. Got better but again not nearly strong enough to guard NBA 4's, and not quick enough to guard 3's. Great kid, works hard, I expect he'll succeed, but I'm not sure he's going to play much as a rookie unless he's on a really bad team.
 

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It wouldn't surprise me if the Suns do not use the Cleveland pick (obtained in the IT trade) to try to move up a notch or two in this draft.
 

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It wouldn't surprise me if the Suns do not use the Cleveland pick (obtained in the IT trade) to try to move up a notch or two in this draft.

I used to say that every year, but they never move up. They'll talk about it, but it won't happen.
 

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I used to say that every year, but they never move up. They'll talk about it, but it won't happen.

That's because picks at the end of the first round have very low value, nowhere near enough to move up more than a couple of spots.
 

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That's because picks at the end of the first round have very low value, nowhere near enough to move up more than a couple of spots.

That's all I would expect but it might be enough for the Suns to get the player they want near where they are drafting.
 

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Is this our guy?

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Myles Turner (Texas) - The Longhorn’s one and done prospect, Myles Turner, sized up really well for a PF/C combo in the NBA. Standing 6’11.5’’ in shoes, he was the 5th tallest player in Chicago, and his 9’4’’ standing reach was only an inch shy of the top spot. Round that out with a 7’4’’ wingspan, a solid 238 pounds, a sub 10% body fat, and Turner would be an intriguing prospect if he didn’t have a soft shooting touch, and an expanding offensive game. With a solid showing in the drills, and athletic testing, Myles’ upside alone could be enough for a few teams to reach for an opportunity to develop him.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-measurement-analysis

-Myles Turner: Texas freshman Myles Turner is in largely the same boat as Cauley-Stein in that he measured extraordinarily well, but not quite as well as Upshaw. Standing 6'11.25 with a 7'4 wingspan and a 238.6-pound frame, he has terrific size for a NBA big man. His 9'4 standing reach ranks second among all players in attendance. Considering his tremendous physical attributes, combined with his ability to shoot the ball with range and block shots, teams in the mid to late lottery will have to think long and hard before passing on Turner.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3aJg1tW7z
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This guy can really shoot the ball for a big man. nbadraft.net has him going to us at 13, but I am thinking he will be gone by then.

Kaminsky isn't even participating in the athletic testing or shooting drills at the combine, which seems pretty lame. http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...onsin-frank-kaminsky-sam-dekker-nba/27380453/
 
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That's all I would expect but it might be enough for the Suns to get the player they want near where they are drafting.

After the first four picks, they all are about the same anyway. Even the first four are not that special this year.
 

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Is this our guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHUf-Gyvdbc



http://www.nbadraft.net/2015-nba-draft-combine-measurement-analysis



From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3aJg1tW7z
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This guy can really shoot the ball for a big man. nbadraft.net has him going to us at 13, but I am thinking he will be gone by then.

Kaminsky isn't even participating in the athletic testing or shooting drills at the combine, which seems pretty lame. http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...onsin-frank-kaminsky-sam-dekker-nba/27380453/

Turner's upper body movements seem really smooth. He seems stiff-legged.

I don't care about Kaminsky not participating in drills. That just makes him drop a little more and maybe we get a chance to get him. If he surprises, even by a little, in the drills, he is going in the top 10-11.
 

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I really like Portis. NBA ready, very versatile offensively, above average rebounder, can pass and has good handles for a big man. Adequate defensively, this is where he will need to improve.

Wood is an intriguing prospect. Stretch 4 / rim protector potential, excellent rebounder. He is really lacking in muscle and bulk and the fact that he came in a 14% body fat at combine tells me he is trying to put on weight quickly the wrong way. If he can get a John Lott type strength and conditioning coach to get him to a NBA ready body he could potentially be the best out of the Big 3 (Turner/Portis/Wood).

Turner does have potential, I will give him that. He can defend, rebound and has shooting range but he is raw, lacks fundamentals, appears slow footed and lacks quickness . There are also concerns about his long term health (leg issues).

I don't think PHX needs a PG. Grant looks good but is more of a combo guard playing PG. I also really liked Kris Dunn but he's going back to school. If PHX re-signs Knight then they don't need a PG unless they trade Bledsoe but I don't see that happening, especially before the draft.

There isn't really a true SG than can shoot and defend outside the Top 10. Norman Powell looks like the best of the late Round 1 prospects but he isn't that great of a shooter. Justin Anderson looks intriguing because he is built like a tank at 6'6 225 but he is more of an athlete than true SG or SF. Terran Petteway looks like he could be a great pick in Round 2.
 

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I really like Portis. NBA ready, very versatile offensively, above average rebounder, can pass and has good handles for a big man. Adequate defensively, this is where he will need to improve.

Wood is an intriguing prospect. Stretch 4 / rim protector potential, excellent rebounder. He is really lacking in muscle and bulk and the fact that he came in a 14% body fat at combine tells me he is trying to put on weight quickly the wrong way. If he can get a John Lott type strength and conditioning coach to get him to a NBA ready body he could potentially be the best out of the Big 3 (Turner/Portis/Wood).

Turner does have potential, I will give him that. He can defend, rebound and has shooting range but he is raw, lacks fundamentals, appears slow footed and lacks quickness . There are also concerns about his long term health (leg issues).

I don't think PHX needs a PG. Grant looks good but is more of a combo guard playing PG. I also really liked Kris Dunn but he's going back to school. If PHX re-signs Knight then they don't need a PG unless they trade Bledsoe but I don't see that happening, especially before the draft.

There isn't really a true SG than can shoot and defend outside the Top 10. Norman Powell looks like the best of the late Round 1 prospects but he isn't that great of a shooter. Justin Anderson looks intriguing because he is built like a tank at 6'6 225 but he is more of an athlete than true SG or SF. Terran Petteway looks like he could be a great pick in Round 2.

I like what I have read about Portis as well. This is the type draft where the Suns need to have three draft picks. Maybe just draft players that can play inside or look at an athletic PG. No more PGs that are relatively slow and have a low shot trajectory.
 

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Turner's upper body movements seem really smooth. He seems stiff-legged.

I don't care about Kaminsky not participating in drills. That just makes him drop a little more and maybe we get a chance to get him. If he surprises, even by a little, in the drills, he is going in the top 10-11.

I don't know, those legs seem to be moving better than Frank's. :)
And Turner seems to have way more upside compared to Kaminsky. Don't get me wrong, I would still consider Kaminsky. But if Turner is still there, I would take Turner.
 

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I don't know, those legs seem to be moving better than Frank's. :)
And Turner seems to have way more upside compared to Kaminsky. Don't get me wrong, I would still consider Kaminsky. But if Turner is still there, I would take Turner.

agree. this team HAS to start swinging for the fences on picks if they keep getting #13. The only way this club is ever going to get better is if they take a chance and hit a home-run on one of those late lotto picks with a sky-high ceiling. Kaminski's ceiling at best is good player and at worst, complete non-entity or Austin Crochere-ish.
 

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Kaminsky will be a mega bust.

Like I said before go back 20 years in the draft and find me a senior in the lottery who did really well unless, there are very few. Now find me a white junior/senior that did well - almost impossible.

Kaminsky has a similiar body type to Cody Zeller who was a stud in college too, only a sophomore and unlike Kaminsky, Zeller is very athletic. Now Zeller is a bust and Kaminsky will be too.

I can't see his craftiness translating, Spencer Hawes I think is a good projection for him.

Also I think Kaminsky has an attitude problem. He wrote a ridiculous blog post because someone said Anthony Davis was better than him (which is absolutely undisputable)
 

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