2015-16 Draft Picks to watch...

[Hoop Head]

I thought we had Miami's pick this year also, from the IT to Boston trade? It will be in the mid 20's but possibly packaged to move up seeing as we don't need 2 first round rookies coming in.

 

[leclerc]

Anyone think we can get into the top 3 for Bledsoe & the twins? That would be refreshing.

C Len / Wright
PF x /
SF Warren /
SG Tucker / Green
PG Knight / Goodwin

Something like that... probably ship out Green and get a PG that can pass and shoot. Should be possible to sign decent PF and wing man as role players.

What's the status on Danny Granger by the way?

 

[Catlover]

I thought we had Miami's pick this year also, from the IT to Boston trade? It will be in the mid 20's but possibly packaged to move up seeing as we don't need 2 first round rookies coming in.

No, we have Cleveland's 2016 pick which is top 10 protected for 3 seasons before it becomes unprotected. And we have Miami's 2017 pick which has a lot of conditions to it and likely won't come our way that first year plus we have their 2021 pick which I believe is unprotected.

 

[Catlover]

Anyone think we can get into the top 3 for Bledsoe & the twins? That would be refreshing.

C Len / Wright
PF x /
SF Warren /
SG Tucker / Green
PG Knight / Goodwin

Something like that... probably ship out Green and get a PG that can pass and shoot. Should be possible to sign decent PF and wing man as role players.

What's the status on Danny Granger by the way?

I don't see that accomplishing much other than setting us back a couple of years. Knight is NOT the point guard of the future and there's still the matter of his impending Free Agency. If I were to blow this up and go the full scale tanking route, I'd sign and trade Knight for future picks, trade Bledsoe for Randle and a future pick (something like that) and package the brothers elsewhere for a couple of future picks. I don't see a Kobe or a Lebron in this draft so no way would I pay the kind of premium you're suggesting to move up into the top 3.

 

[leclerc]

Looking at the mocks right now I'd like Harrell or Looney with our own pick at 13-14.

 

[JCSunsfan]

We need about everything so I think we should draft BPA this year.

Maybe not PG though if we keep Bledsoe and Knight with Goodwin being able to play the point.

I hope we go big because I think Warren and Goodwin can be our starters on the wing positions or at least be in the rotation. Hopefully we trade Bledsoe or Knight with some other pieces to get better up front.

We only have our own first round pick this year, right?

Let's get someone who does one or two things really well. A tweener with potential but lacking effort is typically a wasted pick.

Goodwin should only play the point when injuries force it. He is not a pg and never will be.

 

[SirStefan32]

Anyone think we can get into the top 3 for Bledsoe & the twins? That would be refreshing.

If you were a team that had a top-3 pick, would you give it up for Bledsoe and the twins? I know I wouldn't touch those three with a ten-foot pole.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If you were a team that had a top-3 pick, would you give it up for Bledsoe and the twins? I know I wouldn't touch those three with a ten-foot pole.

Actually, yes. If I had a lot of young, potential star type players, the Morris twins add established depth, and a young veteran presence.

I especially could see this for Philly, which has entirely too many picks. They need players who can produce now, not more rookies.

Philadelphia already has 6 picks in this draft, and if the Laker pick slips, it will be 7. If the Miami pick ends up out of the top 10 it will be 8. Add that to Noel (only one limited season) and Embiid (still a rookie) and that team needs diapers.

 

[SirStefan32]

Actually, yes. If I had a lot of young, potential star type players, the Morris twins add established depth, and a young veteran presence.

I especially could see this for Philly, which has entirely too many picks. They need players who can produce now, not more rookies.

Philadelphia already has 6 picks in this draft, and if the Laker pick slips, it will be 7. If the Miami pick ends up out of the top 10 it will be 8. Add that to Noel (only one limited season) and Embiid (still a rookie) and that team needs diapers.

With those picks, you can get a lot more than a combo guard on a non-so-great long contract, and two headcases, one of which is barely an NBA-caliber player.

Nobody's gonna take those three for free, let alone give up a top-three pick for them.

 

[Cheesebeef]

With those picks, you can get a lot more than a combo guard on a non-so-great long contract, and two headcases, one of which is barely an NBA-caliber player.

Nobody's gonna take those three for free, let alone give up a top-three pick for them.

I think they have more value then getting them for free, but I agree, no one's giving up a top 3 pick for those guys.

 

[Cheesebeef]

say what you will about Kaminski at the next level, but the kid is an all-timer as far as college basektball is concerned.

 

[Mainstreet]

say what you will about Kaminski at the next level, but the kid is an all-timer as far as college basektball is concerned.

Frank Kaminsky has earned my respect. IMO, the Badgers should have gone to him even more although he had 21 points and 12 rebounds in their loss to Duke.

 

[Joe Mama]

say what you will about Kaminski at the next level, but the kid is an all-timer as far as college basektball is concerned.

I'm going to amend my Kaminski analysis from last weekend say that he'll probably be a decent offensive player. He's really good at putting his body between the defender and the basket. He's still going to get killed on the other end though.

As of right now I would take Towns #1 and I don't think anybody's really close.

Joe

 

[slinslin]

I am just happy that Kaminsky will go top 10 so it will push someone else.

Mario Hezonja is someone I like a lot who might be a great value pick if he goes between #7-9 even if we do not have a clear need I think he is a special talent.

I agree that Towns will go #1. Behind that I see Russell, Okafor, Winslow that could go in different order depending on need. Mudiay, Hezonja, Porzingis, Kaminsky as the next tier with the first 3 having potential to be better than the first tier but there is more mystery around them.

Tier 1
Towns, Okafor, Russell, Winslow
Tier 2
Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja, Kaminsky
Tier 3
Johnson, Dekker, Poetl, Turner

 

[slinslin]

Russell is a player I would consider trading up for, no matter the cost almost.

Put him right at starting PG and rebuild.

Russell, Hezonja are players I want us to trade up for. Russell to be the franchise PG and Hezonja to be the traditional SG.

Russell if he drops anywhere past #3+.
Hezonja in the #7+ range.

Russell/Goodwin would be a good combination I think. Russell is much more of a shooter than either Knight or Bledsoe.

I would have all our assets on the table to get Russell as long as we can keep Len, Goodwin and Waren. I might part with Goodwin too for Hezonja, though not sure about that.

Len
???
Warren
Goodwin/Bogdanovic
Russell

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm going to amend my Kaminski analysis from last weekend say that he'll probably be a decent offensive player. He's really good at putting his body between the defender and the basket. He's still going to get killed on the other end though.

As of right now I would take Towns #1 and I don't think anybody's really close.

Joe

One thing with Kaminsky is we don't know his defense yet because of where he played. Wisconsin literally teaches their best players to concede shots so as not to get in foul trouble because their bench was thin.

He might be a much better defender in a role where he doesn't have to play 34 MPG because he won't have to worry about fouls.

but then it's hard to unlearn that stuff too.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm going to amend my Kaminski analysis from last weekend say that he'll probably be a decent offensive player. He's really good at putting his body between the defender and the basket. He's still going to get killed on the other end though.

As of right now I would take Towns #1 and I don't think anybody's really close.

Joe

??? Did you mean good at putting his body between the defender and the ball? Or are you talking about boxing out on rebounding.

I think Kaminsky is going to have a very good pro career. He has size and skills. With big men, athleticism is good, but it is more important with a wing. Kaminsky will tear up the Miles Plumlees of the NBA with smarts and skills.

 

[slinslin]

Not a big fan of going PG other than the Russell but Dunn might just be the BPA at #13 and has legit size and it is not like we have 0 need for another guard.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not a big fan of going PG other than the Russell but Dunn might just be the BPA at #13 and has legit size and it is not like we have 0 need for another guard.

Pope announced he's staying. Rumor a couple of weeks ago was he wanted to stay but was being advised to go by family and circle.

Given his injury history(2 broken legs) he couldn't be faulted if he'd turned pro and taken teh money.

Way more talent than performance right now but he sure is talented.

 

[overseascardfan]

Kentucky 7 officially declare for the draft and so does Okafor, no real surprise.

 

[jandaman]

Russell is a player I would consider trading up for, no matter the cost almost.

Put him right at starting PG and rebuild.

Russell, Hezonja are players I want us to trade up for. Russell to be the franchise PG and Hezonja to be the traditional SG.

Russell if he drops anywhere past #3+.
Hezonja in the #7+ range.

Russell/Goodwin would be a good combination I think. Russell is much more of a shooter than either Knight or Bledsoe.

I would have all our assets on the table to get Russell as long as we can keep Len, Goodwin and Waren. I might part with Goodwin too for Hezonja, though not sure about that.

Len
???
Warren
Goodwin/Bogdanovic
Russell

100% agreed with Russell.
I think he would be perfect PG/SG next to Goodwin/Bogdanovic/Knight/Bledsoe

A James Harden/Brandon Roy type... would trade a lot for him.

 

[hcsilla]

100% agreed with Russell.
I think he would be perfect PG/SG next to Goodwin/Bogdanovic/Knight/Bledsoe

A James Harden/Brandon Roy type...

Russell is significantly less athletic and powerful than Harden, otherwise quite similar, but that's a big difference.

 

[slinslin]

Russell is also a better passer. Some of the passes that Russell makes are passes that in the NBA you only saw Ricky Rubio, Steve Nash or Jason Kidd make.

To me Russell is a true PG that can score too.

 

[slinslin]

Btw about Kaminsky and Dekker.

Here is a list of white NCAA lottery picks

2001 Troy Murph, Junior
2002 Mike Dunleavy, Junior
2003 Chris Kaman, Junior + Kirk Hinrich, Senior + Luke Ridnour, Junior
2004 Luke Jackson, Senior
2005 Andrew Bogut, Soph
2006 Adam Morrison, Junior
2007 Spencer Hawes, Freshman
2008 Joe Alexander, Junior
2009 Tyler Hansborough, Senior
2010 Gordon Hayward – Soph,
2011 Enes Kanter, Freshman + Jimmer Fredette, Senior
2012 Meyers Leonard, Soph
2013 Cody Zeller, Soph
2014 Doug McDermott, Senior + Nik Stauskas, Soph
2015 Kaminsky or Dekker?

With the execption of Hayward especially the darlings like Adam Morrison, Joe Alexander, Jimmer Fredette, Doug McDermott have all been colossal busts. Sam Dekker might be in line after the post-tournament hype.

All Juniors or Senior were busts or role players. The outlook for black NCAA prospects might be similiar, so it is a good strategy to stay away from Juniors and Seniors.

 

[Phrazbit]

I think kaminski might succeed but I wouldn't touch dekker with a ten foot pole. I don't see any ability that will translate to the Nba level.