2015-16 Draft Picks to watch...

[Russ Smith]

Turner's upper body movements seem really smooth. He seems stiff-legged.

I don't care about Kaminsky not participating in drills. That just makes him drop a little more and maybe we get a chance to get him. If he surprises, even by a little, in the drills, he is going in the top 10-11.

Said it before say it again, Turner runs like Forrest gump with his braces on. John Lucas trained him and he said we spent hours teaching him how to run, how to bend his legs telling him over and over he's going to get seriously injured if he doesn't change his gait.

talented kid but he's extremely awkward, very stiff legged, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't have leg injury issues at his size with that issue.

 

[JCSunsfan]

agree. this team HAS to start swinging for the fences on picks if they keep getting #13. The only way this club is ever going to get better is if they take a chance and hit a home-run on one of those late lotto picks with a sky-high ceiling. Kaminski's ceiling at best is good player and at worst, complete non-entity or Austin Crochere-ish.

I am not sure that swinging for the fences accomplishes any more than just picking a good player. At #15, Steve Nash was called a "safe pick" by Danny Ainge and he ended up as a 2 time MVP.

Usually, swinging for the fences involves going for a very athletic player with huge flaws. I don't want more Tim Perry's. Now maybe swinging for the fences is going for a small school player who has potential--Dan Majerle etc.

Its an interesting discussion, and probably can only be really answered in the specific situation rather than as a general policy.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the Suns go big in the draft here are some players the Suns might look at per Paul Coro at azcentral.

The Suns have a 96 percent chance of winding up with the No. 13 pick after Tuesday's draft lottery. That takes the consensus top two picks, centers Karl-Anthony Towns of Kentucky and Jahlil Okafor of Duke, out of the equation, as well as Latvian power forward Kristaps Porzingis and probably Kentucky's defensive star Willie Cauley-Stein.

After that group, the NBA draft combine that ended Saturday had a display of big men who could be in play for the Suns. Kentucky power forward Trey Lyles, Texas power forward/center Myles Turner, Arkansas power forward Bobby Portis and Wisconsin power forward Frank Kaminsky. UCLA tweener forward Kevon Looney and Louisville power forward Montrezl Harrell are possibilities to reach the top half of the first round.

As I said earlier, I would like to get Portis.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...-size-nba-drafts-big-man-prevalence/27469879/

 

[Russ Smith]

If the Suns go big in the draft here are some players the Suns might look at per Paul Coro at azcentral.


As I said earlier, I would like to get Portis.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...-size-nba-drafts-big-man-prevalence/27469879/

On that list I really like Lyles. He reminds me a bit of Terry Cummings, doesn't have the ridiculous body that TC had but similar size, can face up and shoot and attack the rim. He only played 1 year and often played out of position at the 3 at UK so he wasn't in a situation to show his best stuff all the time.

Looney we talk about all the time on UCLA boards, great kid but he's not a great athlete, not a big leaper, needs to get stronger and work on his game. Terrific rebounder, defense improved but I suspect it'll take him a few years to be able to excel in the NBA. I also strongly suspect Looney has some health issue with his breathing be it exercised induced asthma, or a devivated septum. Something, he was constantly gasping for air when you saw closeups at UCLA, he had a back and a leg injury so he missed quite a bit of conditioning, but he just never seemed to get past the breathing thing so I strongly suspect there's something there. Good kid though.

 

[az jam]

Like I said before go back 20 years in the draft and find me a senior in the lottery who did really well unless, there are very few.

Tim Duncan

 

[Ronin]

Tim Duncan

Grant Hill?


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[Ronin]

KJ was also a 4 year starter according to the inter webs.lol


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[Ronin]

Here's a look at the 77 players who have made the last 10 All-Star teams from both conferences. The four-year college players -- Tim Duncan, Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert, Grant Hill, Josh Howard, David Lee, Damian Lillard, Steve Nash, Jameer Nelson, Brandon Roy and David West -- compare favorably to most of the other groups when it comes to total All-Stars, even if they don't boast the number of repeat and perennial All-Stars. Click to enlarge.

http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward...mott-nba-draft-college-four-year-one-and-done

 

[Mainstreet]

On that list I really like Lyles. He reminds me a bit of Terry Cummings, doesn't have the ridiculous body that TC had but similar size, can face up and shoot and attack the rim. He only played 1 year and often played out of position at the 3 at UK so he wasn't in a situation to show his best stuff all the time.

Looney we talk about all the time on UCLA boards, great kid but he's not a great athlete, not a big leaper, needs to get stronger and work on his game. Terrific rebounder, defense improved but I suspect it'll take him a few years to be able to excel in the NBA. I also strongly suspect Looney has some health issue with his breathing be it exercised induced asthma, or a devivated septum. Something, he was constantly gasping for air when you saw closeups at UCLA, he had a back and a leg injury so he missed quite a bit of conditioning, but he just never seemed to get past the breathing thing so I strongly suspect there's something there. Good kid though.

Some interesting input. It would be great if Portis and Lyles were on the table when the Suns pick. Lyles is young but you can't turn down talent. And Portis is only 20.

 

[slinslin]

Grant Hill?


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21 years ago..

Tim Duncan, 18 years ago and also an unanimous #1 pick talent.

Kaminsky is more in line with Adam Morrison, Jimmer Fredette, Doug McDermott, Tyler Hansborough and so on. 4 year overhyped media darling that won't translate to the next level.

 

[Ronin]

searching for news and I stumbled across this article from Paul Coro...

After that group, the NBA draft combine that ended Saturday had a display of big men who could be in play for the Suns. Kentucky power forward Trey Lyles, Texas power forward/center Myles Turner, Arkansas power forward Bobby Portis and Wisconsin power forward Frank Kaminsky. UCLA tweener forward Kevon Looney and Louisville power forward Montrezl Harrell are possibilities to reach the top half of the first round.
Lyles, who is 6 feet 10 and 245 pounds, has the widest range of draft projections because he played out of position at small forward and only averaged 23 minutes per game as a Kentucky freshman. He is considered a smart offensive player with good touch near the basket and offensive rebounding instincts, but is an average athlete.

Turner, who is 6 feet 11 and 259 pounds, is more consistently tabbed as a late lottery pick for his shooting, defensive and rebounding ability. He also played limited time with 22 minutes per game but had more production (10.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.6 bpg) than Lyles (8.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg) did on a star-studded Kentucky team with seven players turning pro.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor.../?hootPostID=e86fca871b9622d7974dab3810497f53

 

[Joe Mama]

I just wanted to say if there's any justice in the basketball world the Phoenix Suns deserved to win the draft lottery. They've had terrible luck in the past, and they didn't do what the Sixers did and go full-blown tank mode.

What's probably going to happen instead is that the Lakers will fall out of the top 5 and we'll all be upset we traded that Lakers draft pick. That's just the way it's gone in the draft lottery for this team.

Joe

 

[slinslin]

I think there is 0 chance that Kaminsky could be a PF in the NBA.

My preference for our pick is Willie Cauley-Stein though rather unlikely to be on the board.
I always heard he was stupid but in his interviews he comes across rather mature and educated compared to the standard NBA player.

If not Cauley-Stein I think BPA. SF - Kelly Oubre. Though if you believe Draftexpress even Oubre and Turner won't be on the board for us.

Harrell would be a massive reach. I think Lyles is not a fit, too little athleticim.

Portis has good size but I am not sold.

My favorite players are all ahead on the board of our pick. Towns, Russell, Mudiay, Stein, Hezonja, Winslow, Johnson, Oubre...

 

[Cheesebeef]

I just wanted to say if there's any justice in the basketball world the Phoenix Suns deserved to win the draft lottery. They've had terrible luck in the past, and they didn't do what the Sixers did and go full-blown tank mode.

What's probably going to happen instead is that the Lakers will fall out of the top 5 and we'll all be upset we traded that Lakers draft pick. That's just the way it's gone in the draft lottery for this team.

Joe

this is pretty much exactly what I expect to happen. and then we'll turnaround and MAX out a totally unworthy Knight with a MAX deal to save face... by cutting off our nose.

 

[Phrazbit]

I think Kominsky is a likely bust, but I think he has a much better chance at success than Cauley-Stien. That guy didn't improve at all in 3 years for Kentucky, and all reports paint him as a dunce. If he was 2 inches shorter he'd go undrafted.

 

[Raindog]

I would be okay with any one of Turner, Portis, Lyles, Oubre... even Kaminski, who I think has at least a chance of being another Googs - not bad value at the 14th or so pick.

I would not be crazy about D. Booker, who some mocks have the Suns taking. And if they take another freaking PG, I will throw my TV through a window.

 

[sunsfan88]

I think there is 0 chance that Kaminsky could be a PF in the NBA.

My preference for our pick is Willie Cauley-Stein though rather unlikely to be on the board.
I always heard he was stupid but in his interviews he comes across rather mature and educated compared to the standard NBA player.

If not Cauley-Stein I think BPA. SF - Kelly Oubre. Though if you believe Draftexpress even Oubre and Turner won't be on the board for us.

Harrell would be a massive reach. I think Lyles is not a fit, too little athleticim.

Portis has good size but I am not sold.

My favorite players are all ahead on the board of our pick. Towns, Russell, Mudiay, Stein, Hezonja, Winslow, Johnson, Oubre...

LOL your sig is from a post of mine from a forum in which your perma banned.....I love the irony

I can't believe you think that's the worst post of mine. You must not be looking hard enough.

If I wanted to I could dig through and find your posts about Magic Johnson not being a PG or a C and your Robin Lopez proclaims and all that but don't have time for it right now.

 

[sunsfan88]

I just wanted to say if there's any justice in the basketball world the Phoenix Suns deserved to win the draft lottery. They've had terrible luck in the past, and they didn't do what the Sixers did and go full-blown tank mode.

What's probably going to happen instead is that the Lakers will fall out of the top 5 and we'll all be upset we traded that Lakers draft pick. That's just the way it's gone in the draft lottery for this team.

Joe

If that happens, I wonder who will be more pissed Laker fans or Suns fans.

this is pretty much exactly what I expect to happen. and then we'll turnaround and MAX out a totally unworthy Knight with a MAX deal to save face... by cutting off our nose.

Good lord even with the rising cap that will be a bad contract if it happens.

 

[Cheesebeef]

ah, the lottery... where any miniscule hope Suns fans have to right the ship perpetually goes to die! Can't wait to get another pick which makes no impact while watching the Bucks get the Lakers pick cementing a terrible downturn of a year where we got worse on the court, lost our best current asset and mortgaged our future assets... for nothing!

Okay NBA... bring on the pain!

 

[Ronin]

#13 no shocker there


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[Cheesebeef]

quick and painless.

 

[Cheesebeef]

and of course... the Lakers win the lotto. BULL****.

 

[gmabel830]

I love the groans when the Knicks hit at #4... either towns or okafor with Randall would be a nice front court duo for LA.

 

[gmabel830]

Oh and 3 of the top 4 get top 3 picks... tankapalooza will continue

 

[Ronin]

and of course... the Lakers win the lotto. BULL****.

Watch the lakers fire Byron Scott and hire Tom Thibodeau.lol


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