2016-17 Around the NBA

[Errntknght]

Be interesting to see if can drag his team to a winning series in the playoffs... they're going to face the Rockets and Hardin...

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't know how Westbrook doesn't get the MVP. He's having not just the best year in the league but literally one of the most insane years EVER... for a team that's probably going to win 48 games and get to the playoffs... with pretty much ZERO help. That's an MVP.

 

[Errntknght]

I don't know if you guys remember Boban Marjanovic playing for the Spurs last year. When GMs were throwing silly contracts around last summer the Pistons offered Boban to 3 yrs, 20 mil. He went to Pops and asked him what he should do and Pops told him, "Yes, 20 million is more than 1 million, take it!" I thought the Pistons were quite astute as Marjanovic had destroyed us in a late stretch but mainly he's a big (7'3, 290) who can shoot FTs so they can sit Drummond when the opps start fouling him every time down. But no, he sits on the bench - about 200 minutes of PT. Once they were eliminated from the playoffs they start playing him and he goes 12/18 FGs, 12 bds against Houston in 28 min, for the win. Today he's their leading scorer again against the Griz, 4/6 FGs, 6/7 FTs and 10 bds in 23 min. Win again.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I don't know how Westbrook doesn't get the MVP. He's having not just the best year in the league but literally one of the most insane years EVER... for a team that's probably going to win 48 games and get to the playoffs... with pretty much ZERO help. That's an MVP.

totally agree. All the comments about stat padding seem silly to me. He is the only player on the team. He is getting double digit assists AND leading the league in scoring.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I don't know if you guys remember Boban Marjanovic playing for the Spurs last year. When GMs were throwing silly contracts around last summer the Pistons offered Boban to 3 yrs, 20 mil. He went to Pops and asked him what he should do and Pops told him, "Yes, 20 million is more than 1 million, take it!" I thought the Pistons were quite astute as Marjanovic had destroyed us in a late stretch but mainly he's a big (7'3, 290) who can shoot FTs so they can sit Drummond when the opps start fouling him every time down. But no, he sits on the bench - about 200 minutes of PT. Once they were eliminated from the playoffs they start playing him and he goes 12/18 FGs, 12 bds against Houston in 28 min, for the win. Today he's their leading scorer again against the Griz, 4/6 FGs, 6/7 FTs and 10 bds in 23 min. Win again.

It is an interesting development. I am a bit skeptical of wins and points scored this time of year. Anomalies happening everywhere with teams eliminated, tanking and resting.

 

[slinslin]

I don't know if you guys remember Boban Marjanovic playing for the Spurs last year. When GMs were throwing silly contracts around last summer the Pistons offered Boban to 3 yrs, 20 mil. He went to Pops and asked him what he should do and Pops told him, "Yes, 20 million is more than 1 million, take it!" I thought the Pistons were quite astute as Marjanovic had destroyed us in a late stretch but mainly he's a big (7'3, 290) who can shoot FTs so they can sit Drummond when the opps start fouling him every time down. But no, he sits on the bench - about 200 minutes of PT. Once they were eliminated from the playoffs they start playing him and he goes 12/18 FGs, 12 bds against Houston in 28 min, for the win. Today he's their leading scorer again against the Griz, 4/6 FGs, 6/7 FTs and 10 bds in 23 min. Win again.

Not really doing much for me but it might make it more likely that the Pistons move on from Drummond.

Not sure I would do Bledsoe for Drummond straight up but it is an interesting idea should we get Fultz.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It is an interesting development. I am a bit skeptical of wins and points scored this time of year. Anomalies happening everywhere with teams eliminated, tanking and resting.

it's why I don't put much stock into Warren. He's had a good run of 20 games... but it's been while tanking and losing in ugly fashion.

I still think he could be a great sixth man, but a SF for the future? Im pretty dubious due to his limitations.

 

[slinslin]

totally agree. All the comments about stat padding seem silly to me. He is the only player on the team. He is getting double digit assists AND leading the league in scoring.

So what, James Harden is having a better year than Westbrook.

I don't know how Westbrook doesn't get the MVP. He's having not just the best year in the league but literally one of the most insane years EVER... for a team that's probably going to win 48 games and get to the playoffs... with pretty much ZERO help. That's an MVP.

Because Harden is putting up better numbers on a better team.

 

[Ronin]

RealGM‏Verified account@RealGM 7m7 minutes ago
Cavaliers To Sit Big 3 Against Heat: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245571/Cavaliers-To-Sit-Big-3-Against-Heat…

 

[JCSunsfan]

So what, James Harden is having a better year than Westbrook.



Because Harden is putting up better numbers on a better team.

32, 10.4 and 10.6

29.2, 11.1, and 8.1

I can see if you said Harden's numbers are similar, but not better.

Also. The Thunder are the 9th best defensive team in the league and their defense is better when Westbrook is on the floor.

 

[slinslin]

I don't know how Westbrook doesn't get the MVP. He's having not just the best year in the league but literally one of the most insane years EVER... for a team that's probably going to win 48 games and get to the playoffs... with pretty much ZERO help. That's an MVP.

32, 10.4 and 10.6

29.2, 11.1, and 8.1

I can see if you said Harden's numbers are similar, but not better.

Also. The Thunder are the 9th best defensive team in the league and their defense is better when Westbrook is on the floor.

The difference in shooting percentages is huge. It is bigger than the gap between Westbrook and Andre Roberson who might be the woest shooter ever.

 

[slinslin]

RealGM‏Verified account@RealGM 7m7 minutes ago
Cavaliers To Sit Big 3 Against Heat: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245571/Cavaliers-To-Sit-Big-3-Against-Heat…

That is sketchy since the Heat are in a tight race.

 

[elindholm]

The difference in shooting percentages is huge.

What numbers are you looking at?

Harden .439 overall, .346 3FG
Westbrook .426 overall, .344 3FG

Harden takes more threes than Westbrook does, so his eFG% is higher, but even so, it's pretty difficult to call that gap "huge."

 

[Cheesebeef]

The difference in shooting percentages is huge. It is bigger than the gap between Westbrook and Andre Roberson who might be the woest shooter ever.

the difference in shooting percentage is "huge"?

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/bycategory?cat=Fielding&sort=25

Westbrook is shooting 42.6% from 2 and 34.4% from 3.
Harden is shooting 43.9% from 2 and 34.6% from 3.

Only in the land of Magic Johnson isn't a PG can a difference in shooting percentages of 1.3% AND .2% be considered HUGE.

That's beyond ridiculous.

I mean, if that's the case, then Westbrook's advantage over Harden in scoring and rebounding is GIGANTIC!

 

[Chaplin]

the difference in shooting percentage is "huge"?

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/bycategory?cat=Fielding&sort=25

Westbrook is shooting 42.6% from 2 and 34.4% from 3.
Harden is shooting 43.9% from 2 and 34.6% from 3.

Only in the land of Magic Johnson isn't a PG can a difference in shooting percentages of 1.3% AND .2% be considered HUGE.

That's beyond ridiculous.

I mean, if that's the case, then Westbrook's advantage over Harden in scoring and rebounding is GIGANTIC!

I would say that difference in shooting percentages isn't nearly as crucial in this equation as the difference in talent among their teammates. Harden has a much better team.

 

[Ronin]

Mike Bresnahan‏Verified account@Mike_Bresnahan
D'Angelo Russell is excused from the team to be with family after his grandmother died. It wouldn't be surprising if he missed final 2 games

 

[Ronin]

Paul George, Russell Westbrook named Players of the Week
NEW YORK--The Indiana Pacers’ Paul George and the Oklahoma City Thunder’s Russell Westbrook today were named NBA Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week, respectively, for games played Monday, April 3 through Sunday, April 9.

George paced the East in scoring (31.7 ppg) and tied for seventh in rebounding (9.0 rpg) while shooting 57.4 percent from the field as the Pacers went 3-0 for the week to climb into seventh place in the East with two games to play. On April 4, he scored 18 points in the third quarter to helped erase a 19-point deficit before finishing with 35 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals in a 108-90 victory over the Toronto Raptors. On April 6, he tallied 23 points, 10 rebounds and four steals in a 104-89 win over the Milwaukee Bucks.

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/04/10/paul-george-russell-westbrook-players-week/?rss=true

 

[Cheesebeef]

Mike Bresnahan‏Verified account@Mike_Bresnahan
D'Angelo Russell is excused from the team to be with family after his grandmother died. It wouldn't be surprising if he missed final 2 games

I know tanking is serious business, but this goes to a whole new level. so, who in the lakers FO killed her?

 

[Ronin]

Report: Hornets pick up 2017-18 option on general manager Rich Cho's contract

Charlotte will not blow things up despite a disappointing season
The Charlotte Hornets have picked up the 2017-18 option on general manager Rich Cho’s contract, according to ESPN’s Marc Stein. This means that, over the offseason, Cho will be tasked with righting the wrongs that kept the Hornets out of the playoffs

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/r...option-on-general-manager-rich-chos-contract/

 

[Ronin]

K.C. Johnson‏Verified account@KCJHoop 5m5 minutes ago
Hoiberg said Rondo's injury is "significant" after seeing specialist.

 

[Ronin]

Dave McMenamin‏Verified account@mcten 21m21 minutes ago
Ty Lue says that Kevin Love is playing tonight, but no Kyrie and LeBron: "We're coming out with the intention of winning tonight"

 

[Errntknght]

Mike Bresnahan‏Verified account@Mike_Bresnahan
D'Angelo Russell is excused from the team to be with family after his grandmother died. It wouldn't be surprising if he missed final 2 games

They're more likely to win without him... his backups have been doing great work. Go Ennis!!! Go Nwaba!!!

 

[elindholm]

I know tanking is serious business, but this goes to a whole new level. so, who in the lakers FO killed her?

Meanwhile, Westbrook goes out after his own grandmother's death and posts 50/16/10 with a buzzer-beater on the road.

 

[Ronin]

Suns Wire‏ @sunssource
#NBA Wire: Report: LeBron James expected to sit Cavaliers' final game with East's one seed… (link: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-lebron-james-expected-to-sit-cavaliers-final-game-with-easts-one-seed-on-line/) cbssports.com/nba/news/repor… (link: http://playerpress.com) playerpress.com


Report: LeBron James expected to sit Cavaliers' final game with East's one seed on linecbssports.com
8:38 AM · Apr 11, 2017

 

[Ronin]

Report: Cavaliers to sign veteran Dahntay Jones
As the Cleveland Cavaliers make final preparations for their title defense, Cleveland will add backup guard Dahntay Jones to the roster, according to NBA reporter Chris Haynes of ESPN. He fills a vacancy, which Cleveland created by waiving DeAndre Liggins on Sunday.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=462359