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I hear Thibbs is letting them play for a year to gauge the personnel and get another high pick for one more season. I think he's trying to change his Bulls' image to better connect with the young guys. They need to start winning soon though.

Honestly I don't know what to say. If the Suns were sitting on this much talent I would be screaming at the top of my lungs for underachieving.
 

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That is shameful. What is ANOTHER talented player going to do for them? Thibbs should be fired.

truthfully, do they have that much young talent outside Towns/Wiggins? I mean, a difference maker?

That said, I expected Thibs to get this team a little further by now.
 

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The Wolves have a lengthy history of playing well below their talent level -as measured by their statistics. It seems to have started when Love joined the team. One place it shows up is their winning pct in close games... several years they were worst in the league in that category. I expected it to change when Dieng joined the team, then Wiggins then Towns. For sure with Thibs and Dunn - who was supposed to be an elite defender. I do expect them to break out soon...
 

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Earl Watson may have something about the mentality, it should all be about winning.
 

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Watching the Thunder/Rockets game today.

Is Harden the most unlikely looking basketball player you've ever seen. His body looks rolly polly and out of shape. He moves so slow at times. He is the anti-thesis of Harden.

Houston seems to play so much slower than the ssol Suns but they still score so much.

DAntoni is an enigma. He hit it right with his personnel with the Suns, then was a bust in NY and LA. Now he gets it again with Houston. I guess its just the personnel.

Lou Williams was such a huge pick up for the Rockets. How did they manage that?
 

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Watching the Thunder/Rockets game today.

Is Harden the most unlikely looking basketball player you've ever seen. His body looks rolly polly and out of shape. He moves so slow at times. He is the anti-thesis of Harden.

Houston seems to play so much slower than the ssol Suns but they still score so much.

DAntoni is an enigma. He hit it right with his personnel with the Suns, then was a bust in NY and LA. Now he gets it again with Houston. I guess its just the personnel.

Lou Williams was such a huge pick up for the Rockets. How did they manage that?

Every coach is a bust with NY and LA recently... Mike D'Antoni, Mike Woodson, Kurt Rambis, Mike Brown, Byron Scott, Bernie Bickerstaff, Jeff Hornacek, Derek Fisher.
 

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I could see Minnesota being a team that would be interested in Bledsoe and also interested in Dudley and Chandler.

They have some bad contracts too.
 

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So is Sacramento going into a five year tank? And who in the world does Sacramento have to get permission from to talk to Hinkie? Didn't the Sixers fire him?
 

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He quit, but it was because the writing was on the wall, they'd hired Colangelo. So, because he quit while under contract non-compete stuff would still apply, but no team would hold him to that, it is just a technicality.
 

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So is Sacramento going into a five year tank? And who in the world does Sacramento have to get permission from to talk to Hinkie? Didn't the Sixers fire him?
He resigned after they brought Colangelo in.
 

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Anybody else see the Warriors beat houston last night? one of the more hilarious games I've seen. Warriors were up 20 and all of a sudden the Rockets shot 18 Ft's in the 2nd quarter to get back in the game. harden was in rare flopping form, jumping into guys throwing his hands up etc. Kerr was near technicals multiple times arguing. At one point in the 3rd quarter the FT's were 29-4 in favor of Houston.

Curry finally got fed up and did that little duck your shooting hand under the defender and snap it up fast to create contact move and got a shooting foul.

The Houston crowd went nuts, booing chanting. the players for the Rockets were all arguing the call, D'Antoni was screaming "that's not a foul and it's not a shooting foul."

It was hilarious, Curry very clearly said to 2 Houston players "that's James' move, that's HIS move." And Kerr was openly telling D'Antoni you can't like it when your guy does it over and over and complain when my guy does it.

FT's ended up 39-16 so 12-10 for the Warriors after the 29-4 start.

They play again in a couple of days this time in Oakland.
 

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harden was in rare flopping form, jumping into guys throwing his hands up etc.

That's my main beef with Harden. So much of his scoring comes from his exaggerated way of responding to minimal contact. He's figured out how to trigger an official's whistle. It's a skill and one that he deserves credit for developing, but it doesn't impress me the way that actual basketball ability does. It's like there's a league-wide conspiracy to turn Harden into a superstar, even though his ability doesn't merit it. Westbrook, on the other hand, doesn't need any of that help.
 
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That's my main beef with Harden. So much of his scoring comes from his exaggerated way of responding to minimal contact. He's figured out how to trigger an officials' whistle. It's a skill and one that he deserves credit for developing, but it doesn't impress me the way that actual basketball ability does. It's like there's a league-wide conspiracy to turn Harden into a superstar, even though his ability doesn't merit it. Westbrook, on the other hand, doesn't need any of that help.


Yeah he's a great player but it's so hard to watch when he starts doing that stuff. and at least twice the Warriors got a layup because he fell down shooting and wasn't able to get back.

There was one where they set a moving screen on Barnes, bumped him and as he reached out his right hand, Harden just like a cobra ducked his hand under the right arm raised up and flailed and they gave him 3 FT's. One warriors announcer said that's unreal it's so bad, Jim Barnett said it's why kerr tells the guys to have discipline, if you get close to him he's going to flop or flail, don't reach, hands straight up.

Where it bothers me is if he's that good and that adept at drawing contact, couldn't he be even a decent defender if he actually tried at that end? he's not Westbrook but he's not exactly a terrible athlete, he just doesn't exert the effort on that end.
 

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