2016-17 Around the NBA

[Ronin]

Well was Roy shot or not?

Bleacher Report‏Verified account@BleacherReport 4m4 minutes ago
Brandon Roy’s players dispute report that their coach was shot this past weekend (via @StefanieLoh) http://ble.ac/2pKkW0x

 

[Ronin]

ProBasketballTalk @nbcprobballtalk
Celtics will retire Paul Pierce’s number


Celtics will retire Paul Pierce’s numbernba.nbcsports.com
12:38 PM · May 4, 2017

 

[Ronin]

Matt Velazquez @Matt_Velazquez
Bucks GM John Hammond very excited about Jabari Parker's progress from second ACL tear. Medical staff projects return around all-star break.

 

[Ronin]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Sources: Atlanta coach Mike Budenholzer will relinquish president's duties, GM Wes Wilcox will remain in a high-ranking front office role.

 

[GatorAZ]

I would have loved to have seen 1 more year with JJ, Amare, Nash, and Marion. I'm pretty sure they would have had a much better shot at the title compared to any of other Nash years. They found their groove in the playoffs right before JJ broke his face and everything fell apart.

Absolutely. Gotta be pro-active. Our apathy likely cost us JJ, and thus a title.

They signed Raja right out of the gate in FA while tendering JJ. He was supposed to originally come off the bench, along with KT. Those two guys were supposed to be added to the intact core of the 2004-5 team... and if they ever would have played a healthy season together, I have no doubt they win a tithe.

If the Suns are guilty of anything it is too much tinkering. A little more patience and continuity would have helped. Sometimes it was the owner, as in he JJ situation. He should have signed him earlier and then he should have matched, even if JJ did not want to leave. He would not do it now. Teams do not let RFA's leave if they want to keep them, regardless of what the player says. Sometimes its the player.

You speak the truth. Sarver should have signed JJ to an extension instead of telling him to go prove himself the next season. This was a horrible mistake.

Maybe but if we'd locked him in to $36m / 4yrs at the start of the season which is what I though he was after (feel free to correct my memory) rather than say to him - prove how good you are, he may have stuck around.

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So I did some digging on the summer after the 03'/04' season:

Sarver said his biggest regret of his 11 years as managing partner was not extending Johnson before that 2004-05 season started. Johnson wanted a six-year, $50 million contract. Sarver would not budge from $45 million, a difference of $833,333 per year.

So they wouldn't give JJ 6/50 but gave Q-Rich (an older and more limited player) the same exact contract???

A week later, they used the remainder of their salary-cap space to sign swingman Quentin Richardson to a six-year, $48 million contact at the suggestion of new assistant coach Alvin Gentry, who coached him for the Clippers.

Well I was wrong. The Suns were idiots!

"It would've made all the difference in the world," Colangelo said of extending Johnson. "But you also wouldn't have Joe go through that year and gather a little bit of angst and animosity and a feeling of disrespect. We heard it all at the time."

And to make matters worse...

Even in forming a franchise-changing roster, there were offseason regrets. The Suns traded their No. 7 pick, which could have been Andre Iguodala or Luol Deng, to Chicago for the No. 31 pick (Jackson Vroman) and a 2005 first-round pick (No. 21) that they traded a year later to New York.

Iggy or Deng were good by their 2nd seasons and would've great bench wings for the next few years on a contending team.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...ns-2004-05-season-franchise-revival/28417913/

 

[Sunburn]

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So I did some digging on the summer after the 03'/04' season:



So they wouldn't give JJ 6/50 but gave Q-Rich (an older and more limited player) the same exact contract???



Well I was wrong. The Suns were idiots!






And to make matters worse...




Iggy or Deng were good by their 2nd seasons and would've great bench wings for the next few years on a contending team.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...ns-2004-05-season-franchise-revival/28417913/

Ugh. Stirring up the ugly past hurts....

 

[Ronin]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
Brandon Roy update: detective details shooting scene, tells @USATODAYsports they're still trying to interview him


Police have not interviewed Brandon Roy after shooting of former NBA playerusatoday.com
11:13 AM · May 5, 2017

 

[Ronin]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
League sources say Joe Dumars and David Griffin are expected to emerge as candidates in the Hawks' search for a new lead front-office voice

 

[Mainstreet]

@GatorHater

Nice research and good article GatorHater.

I'm glad Sarver owned up to his mistake of not signing Joe Johnson to an extension over such a relatively small difference in salary.

 

[Ronin]

Doug Smith: Raptors @SmithRaps
NBA Coaches Association announces tie between Mike D'Antoni-Erik Spoelstra in Michael H. Goldberg Coach Of The Year award. 30 coaches vote

 

[Ronin]

Blake Murphy‏Verified account@BlakeMurphyODC 4m4 minutes ago
It is a formality, but as an FYI, Kyle Lowry has 7 days from when the Raptors are eliminated to officially decline his $12M 2017-18 option.

 

[Ronin]

Al Iannazzone‏Verified account@Al_Iannazzone 19m19 minutes ago
Kristaps Porzingis tweets that his Twitter account was hacked last night after a post about the L.A. Clippers caused a mini-firestorm.

 

[Ronin]

Marc J. Spears @MarcJSpearsESPN
Rudy Gay to opt-out of his Kings contract and expects to be back on the court mid-June, @TheUndefeated has learned.


Kings' Gay plans to opt out, become free agentespn.com
12:56 PM · May 8, 2017

https://mobile.twitter.com/BoozeBaird

 

[Ronin]

InsideHoops.com NBA @InsideHoops
Portland Trail Blazers guard Allen Crabbe will have surgery Thursday to repair a stress reaction of the 5th metatarsal bone in his left foot

 

[Hoop Head]

Marc J. Spears @MarcJSpearsESPN
Rudy Gay to opt-out of his Kings contract and expects to be back on the court mid-June, @TheUndefeated has learned.


Kings' Gay plans to opt out, become free agentespn.com
12:56 PM · May 8, 2017

I hope the Suns don't go after him with a big money deal. Gambo mentions that the Suns are after him every year, usually multiple times a seasons. At least we wouldn't need to give up assets to bring him in but we'd be sacrificing the growth of our current assets by trying use him as a 1 or 2 year rental, similar to what Chandler's done for us but Chandler doesn't demand a lot of touches offensively and I'm sure Gay will be seeking more money than Chandler as well.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I've always seen Gay as a ball-stopper. At least he's a talented ball-stopper. I believe Chriss grew up with Gay as his favorite player. Not sure I like that influence.

Basically, Gay is the player I talk myself into when it becomes clear we are going to sign him and then spend the next three years mad that he's on the team.

Doubtful it matters; my guess is he looks to play for a contender after playing for the Kings.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I just don't see any reason to worry that we'll go after Gay or anyone like that, we seem committed to our current approach of building through player development. Here's a quote from a Haller article on Az Central that makes me feel a lot better about our management and our near future:

“Each team approaches it differently,” General Manager Ryan McDonough said. “For us, it’s something the Suns have never done before. At some point, if we want to rapidly accelerate the timeline, we’ll have the ability to do that. We’ve had the ability to do that but (it) would require trading one or some of our talented young players. That’s the age-old dilemma. … I think the most likely scenario is that we continue to draft and develop and be patient.”

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I hope they stick to the plan. I want a big payoff five years from now far more than I want a competitive team next year.

 

[sunsfan88]

I just don't see any reason to worry that we'll go after Gay or anyone like that, we seem committed to our current approach of building through player development. Here's a quote from a Haller article on Az Central that makes me feel a lot better about our management and our near future:

I wonder if he's concerned that his contract expires after next season.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I wonder if he's concerned that his contract expires after next season.

Maybe but I really doubt it. The popularity of Booker changes everything for him and Sarver IMO. Sarver wants to win but it will always be about money first for him and Booker is a goldmine. The pressure to win immediately is clearly lessened and they both seem to believe and accept that we are still a few years away from starting to be relevant.

 

[Ronin]

Carmelo Anthony Issued Me-Or-Him Ultimatum To Knicks Over Mike D’Antoni
Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/nba/carmelo-anthony-ultimatum-knicks-mike-dantoni/#4FF5IZyC625qeCMh.99

 

[Mainstreet]

Carmelo Anthony Issued Me-Or-Him Ultimatum To Knicks Over Mike D’Antoni
Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/nba/carmelo-anthony-ultimatum-knicks-mike-dantoni/#4FF5IZyC625qeCMh.99

The Knicks should have listened and traded Anthony. LOL

 

[Ronin]

CBS Sports NBA @CBSSportsNBA
Report: Jazz's Gordon Hayward still unsure about opting out of contract (link: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-jazzs-gordon-hayward-still-unsure-about-opting-out-of-contract/) cbssports.com/nba/news/repor…


6:07 PM · May 10, 2017

https://mobile.twitter.com/BaltimoreRAS

 

[Mainstreet]

The Jazz have an edge in negotiating with Hayward with the Celtics believed to be the primary competitor for his services in the weaker East.

That’s where the Hayward-to-Boston inevitability begins to crumble. Hayward has a number of options to maximize his next contract, including the possibility of forgoing free agency a year, earning a spot on the All-NBA team and making himself eligible (as an eighth-year player) for the new collective-bargaining agreement’s lucrative Designated Player allowance.

That would set him up to earn about $235 million in the next six years. Hayward would be taking a risk by giving up money in the short term (or he could risk a new, one-year deal with the Jazz), but he would be rewarded with a significant pay bump the following year if he can cinch a spot on the All-NBA team. He can only earn that bump, though, if he stays with Utah.

Even if Hayward plays his free agency straight and passes on the Designated Player chance, he will be eligible for a five-year deal from Utah worth about $180 million. The best the Celtics—or any other potential suitor—could do would be four years, $132 million. That’s only a difference of about $6 million through four years, but the fifth guaranteed year (at $41 million) is a big advantage for the Jazz.

My guess is Hayward stays with the Jazz unless he wants to chase a championship with the Celtics. I think he stays.

by Sean Deveney @seandeveney

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...z-designated-player/shf0haadrvc21gf6ppblak48m

 

[Ronin]

The Jazz have an edge in negotiating with Hayward with the Celtics believed to be the primary competitor for his services in the weaker East.







My guess is Hayward stays with the Jazz unless he wants to chase a championship with the Celtics. I think he stays.

by Sean Deveney @seandeveney

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...z-designated-player/shf0haadrvc21gf6ppblak48m

I agree.