2016-17 Around the NBA

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania

Manu Ginobili has signed a two-year, $5 million deal to return to the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell The Vertical.

 

[Ronin]

I don't have tapatalk. Asfn mobile shows we are at 162 pages. Idk

 

[Ronin]

I'm planning on starting a new thread around training camp. Anyone feeling antsy and willing to start a new thread...i am willing to help get that one rolling.

 

[Errntknght]

I don't have tapatalk. Asfn mobile shows we are at 162 pages. Idk

Posts listed per page is a settable parameter... ten per page would show 243 pages - you have yours set to 15 per page.

 

[Mainstreet]

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Noel should have accepted this offer from the Mavericks.

Wow. I can't believe he turned it down. It is higher than his market value.

Let him play for the qualifying offer.

 

[Ronin]

Posts listed per page is a settable parameter... ten per page would show 243 pages - you have yours set to 15 per page.

Ok. Went to the preferences option and set it to 10.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Noel should have accepted this offer from the Mavericks.

Wow. I can't believe he turned it down. It is higher than his market value.

Let him play for the qualifying offer.

Rich Pail

 

[GatorAZ]

Noel should have accepted this offer from the Mavericks.

Wow. I can't believe he turned it down. It is higher than his market value.

Let him play for the qualifying offer.

That's what everyone said when Bledsoe turned down the Suns' first offer that summer. Any word on how many years the Noel offer was?

 

[Mainstreet]

Rich Pail

IMO, the Mavericks hold all the cards even with Rich Paul as his agent. I highly doubt Noel will chance playing for the qualifying offer.

Cuban can up the offer slightly and make nice, but no way Noel deserves the max.

 

[Mainstreet]

That's what everyone said when Bledsoe turned down the Suns' first offer that summer. Any word on how many years the Noel offer was?

I haven't heard anything about the length of the contract the Mavericks offered Noel.

However, didn't the Suns have competition from Minnesota before signing Bledsoe to the max or near max.

I have not heard of any competition for Noel. Besides isn't 17.5 million near the max for Noel. Bledsoe was offered significantly less early on.

 

[SirStefan32]

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Wow. He must be delusional to think he will get more.

 

[Errntknght]

Wow. He must be delusional to think he will get more.

Rich Paul consistently has that effect on his guys...

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes

Nerlens Noel signs 1-year, $4.1 million QO to return to Mavs, league sources tell ESPN. Reported $17M "offer " was non-existent in any form.

 

[SirStefan32]

That's a good indication of what may happen with Len.

 

[Mainstreet]

Noel should have taken the 4 year, 70 million dollar offer in July.

A reported $17 million offer from Dallas was nonexistent in any form, according to sources close to Noel, though league sources say a four-year, $70 million contract was offered to Noel on July 1.

Sources told ESPN's Tim MacMahon that the four-year offer was pulled when Noel asked for a max deal.

Lesson learned, don't get greedy.

It seems changing agents didn't help Noel much if he gets injured. I wonder if he bought some insurance.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ns-1-year-offer-sheet-remain-dallas-mavericks

 

[Mainstreet]

That's a good indication of what may happen with Len.

This is a good observation unless Len's agent sees the writing on the wall. The money has dried up.

I'm sure Len has received a reasonable multi-year offer from the Suns. He better take it before they pull it off the table.

 

[Hoop Head]

Maybe Len's agent can try selling Len to the Mavs for half the price of Noel, even a third. I'd like to see him back on a reasonable deal, 3 years/$20 million, but I'd be surprised if he accepted an offer like that. I think it's the most he can hope for though. I can't see any team offering him more than $5 million a year next summer.

 

[Ronin]

Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon

Nerlens Noel asked Mavs for max. Offer was pulled soon thereafter, per sources.

 

[Phrazbit]

This is a good observation unless Len's agent sees the writing on the wall. The money has dried up.

I'm sure Len has received a reasonable multi-year offer from the Suns. He better take it before they pull it off the table.

No, pretty sure all they offered Len was the qualifying offer.

McDonough said the Suns are still waiting to here from Len after extending him a one-year, $4.2 million qualifying offer.

“It’s up to Alex and his agent,” McDonough said. “It’s on the table. We’d like to have him back.”

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...ms-appreciates-new-3-year-contract/514366001/

That is pretty straight forward.

IMO Len and Noel's situations are very very different. Noel was a fool not to take that 17 million, but in the limited minutes he played, he was very productive and had a positive effect on the overall scoreline. While Len was unproductive and his minutes were disastrous for the Suns. Noel is also an athletic stud, while Len is a plodding throwback to a league that does not exist anymore.

Noel got done in by the way restricted free agents don't get offers when opposing clubs know the offer will get matched, he should have taken what the Mavs offered. Len on the other hand didn't get any offers, even from his own team, because he stinks.

 

[Mainstreet]

No, pretty sure all they offered Len was the qualifying offer.


http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...ms-appreciates-new-3-year-contract/514366001/

That is pretty straight forward.

IMO Len and Noel's situations are very very different. Noel was a fool not to take that 17 million, but in the limited minutes he played, he was very productive and had a positive effect on the overall scoreline. While Len was unproductive and his minutes were disastrous for the Suns. Noel is also an athletic stud, while Len is a plodding throwback to a league that does not exist anymore.

Noel got done in by the way restricted free agents don't get offers when opposing clubs know the offer will get matched, he should have taken what the Mavs offered. Len on the other hand didn't get any offers, even from his own team, because he stinks.

The Suns extended qualifying offers to both Williams and Len. This ensures the Suns kept the rights to both players while they were negotiating with them. See link below.

This does not mean the Suns did not offer Len a multiyear contract like Williams except Williams accepted his contract offer. I suspect the Suns also offered Len a similar type contract but he wants more money.

Of course this is just my interpretation. IMO, it makes sense the Suns offered Len a multiyear contract of some sort to keep his future rights.

http://arizonasports.com/story/1159883/suns-extend-qualifying-offers-alex-len-alan-williams/

 

[Ronin]

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[AZCrazy]

Additional assets? They already were given the sun and moon. They need to scrap that trade and look for Bledsoe instead. Maybe, just maybe, we can still make something amazing happen.

 

[Mainstreet]

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The Cavaliers want to milk this thing for all it's worth. Ainge is now on the receiving end for a change.